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edited April 2012 in Ten Forward
http://kotaku.com/5901275/has-ea-been-caught-stealing-designs-from-a-tabletop-game

Has EA Been Caught Stealing Designs From a Tabletop Game?


EA Phenomic's upcoming "social" take on Command & Conquer, Tiberium Alliances, hasn't gathered much good press. Probably because it looks about as enjoyable as punching yourself unconscious. It might be in line for a little more bad press, though, given the similarity between some of its unit designs and those found in tabletop war game Warhammer 40k...........
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I have to admit that thoose units look 95% alike... hard to get out of that one.

    That said, I don't think their evaluation of the game is even remotely fair... the game is good, and very entertaining...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Heard about that a few days ago.

    Good stuff. Anyone get appalled at how EA acts these days? :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Chat wrote:
    Heard about that a few days ago.

    Good stuff. Anyone get appalled at how EA acts these days? :p

    Not really... a certain company that creates a F2P SciFi MMO that I am playing does exactly the same thing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Chat wrote:
    Good stuff. Anyone get appalled at how EA acts these days? :p

    Hah! Me, me! They've gotten nothing but bad press for the last week now. There was an article I read yesterday where employees were being ordered to hype the games. They were told to use their facebook and amazon identities to input positive reviews for all EA products. :rolleyes:

    Also, that C&C game looks pathetic. A lot of people though that the last game was bad, but this thing just looks like a remade Ikari Warriors to me. That was fun, 25 years ago.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Not really... a certain company that creates a F2P SciFi MMO that I am playing does exactly the same thing.
    Red5? Well that's utterly despicable of them...
    And to be technical... Firefall is not a MMO unless you generalize. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Not suprised for two reasons.

    1. EA is becoming more and more cancerous to the gaming industry, so trying to rip-off a game thinking no-one knows it (which is BS) sounds like daily routine for EA.

    2. Everything seems to be a rip-off of 40K nowadays. Terran Marines = Space Marines, Protoss = Eldar and Zerg = Tyranids, the chainsaw part of the Lancer from Gears of War is a rip-off of 40K chainswords, the list is endless. Everyone thinks because its not a hugely exposed IP that they can rip it off and get away with it, thinking no-one will realise (which is, again, BS).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    at first before i clicked the link i was going to say how many ways can you design a tank, but looking at them someone has almost copied it exactly. even some of the minor details match.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Not really... a certain company that creates a F2P SciFi MMO that I am playing does exactly the same thing.

    examples please.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    You would think EA knows better. I wonder if they think they own the entire warhammer IP rather than just Mythic's liscense for one little failed MMO... COURT FIGHT!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Chat wrote:
    Red5? Well that's utterly despicable of them...
    And to be technical... Firefall is not a MMO unless you generalize. :)

    The only game I play is STO... take a hint.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    The only game I play is STO... take a hint.
    Oh you lil haletudse. :pThat word means tadpole.

    So which game has STO plagiarized? I mean since that was the thread was about.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    In the grim darkness of the present, there is only war between games companies.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Chat wrote:
    Oh you lil haletudse. :pThat word means tadpole.

    So which game has STO plagiarized? I mean since that was the thread was about.

    I know the meaning of the word... Look at my location... I am flattered... I think?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    I know the meaning of the word... Look at my location... I am flattered... I think?
    Oh I added the translation for the english masses. :p


    But seriously, were your previous post an attempt to bring in the current lockbox shenanigans to this thread?
    Ok sure... There are lockboxes in other games but I'm not sure if you can say they copied it. It's just a general feature(or something) that takes several different shapes in the various games they exist.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Chat wrote:
    Oh I added the translation for the english masses. :p


    But seriously, were your previous post an attempt to bring in the current lockbox shenanigans to this thread?
    Ok sure... There are lockboxes in other games but I'm not sure if you can say they copied it. It's just a general feature(or something) that takes several different shapes in the various games they exist.

    No... I try to not think about the lockboxes whenever I am in a thread that is not discussing them... I tend to loos my head otherwise...

    But let me give you a tiny example of what I mean:

    http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/8/82/Hyperion_SC2_DevRend2.jpg
    http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/14/83/54/34/i_k_s_15.jpg

    To just name one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »

    There are a lot of hammerhead-looking starships. I'd hardly say they ripped off Starcraft. The ship looks like a fat D7 with a larger hat.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    hort_wort wrote: »
    There are a lot of hammerhead-looking starships. I'd hardly say they ripped off Starcraft. The ship looks like a fat D7 with a larger hat.

    It's not just the hammerhead... it's the ship as a whole... Thoose two are so alike, they might as well have been designed by the same person.

    The placement of front lights for example
    The ark with windows near the "BoP" on the Bortas
    ... and ...
    Look at the location of the Hyperion bridge at the same time look at the BoP head location and shape.

    If you can't see the obvious creative theft, theres something wrong with your eyes.

    Otherwise, you might as well say theres alot of tanks with a cannon barrel up fron and secondary cannon turrets, and that the CnC tanks looks nothing like the WarHammer tanks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    The placement of front lights for example
    The ark with windows near the "BoP" on the Bortas
    ... and ...
    Look at the location of the Hyperion bridge at the same time look at the BoP head location and shape.

    Okay, I know of two types of ark. One is a chest that melts people when they open it, the other is a large boat filled with animals. Plus I have no idea what Bird of Prey you're talking about. I don't know the location of the Hyperion bridge, either. :confused:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    To just name one.
    As questionable as your example is (not that I haven't made the comparison myself)... can you name another?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    hort_wort wrote: »
    Okay, I know of two types of ark. One is a chest that melts people when they open it, the other is a large boat filled with animals. Plus I have no idea what Bird of Prey you're talking about. I don't know the location of the Hyperion bridge, either. :confused:

    The BoP... the one that detaches from the Bortasq (wich is the same model)... Ark... a curve... its at the "bottom" of the neck, close to the secondary hull.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Hmm, EA certainly has the money and lawyers to throw its weight around, but Games Workshop has an army of crazy people willing to spend hundreds of dollars on their miniatures.

    *makes popcorn*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Why have they so obviously copied those designs? It doesn't make any sense at all.

    I'm sure Games Workshop have got the financial capital behind them to mount a very strong legal battle.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    was wondering how long it would take for EA to trip up over itself. they did it with spore and that dreadful DRM scheme, which by the way EA lost that court case. so if GW does take EA to court over it, gw has more then ample justification to win the case.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    ReginaMala wrote: »
    Hmm, EA certainly has the money and lawyers to throw its weight around, but Games Workshop has an army of crazy people willing to spend hundreds of dollars on their miniatures.

    *makes popcorn*

    Hey! I'm one of those crazy people you know! :)

    (Well it's hundreds of pounds I've spent, not hundreds of dollars) :o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Starfish1 wrote:
    Why have they so obviously copied those designs? It doesn't make any sense at all.

    I'm sure Games Workshop have got the financial capital behind them to mount a very strong legal battle.

    There is a SLIGHT chance that it is purely a coincidence... (yea... not buying it either). But there is the chance that it's simply placeholders.

    Knowing EA, it was intentional, but not that they have been caught red-handed, they will either change them, or buy the designs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    ReginaMala wrote: »
    Hmm, EA certainly has the money and lawyers to throw its weight around, but Games Workshop has an army of crazy people willing to spend hundreds of dollars on their miniatures.

    *makes popcorn*

    I see you must not have been exposed to much of the happenings surrounding Games Workshop, so allow me to enlighten you.

    If these two legal departments cross swords, it will be the most titanic ****fight you could possibly imagine. GW is notoriously protective of its IP, and have sued people and companies for far less than this. Ol' John Riccitiello might well have kicked the proverbial Nob in the Gork and Mork, if you catch my drift.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    No... I try to not think about the lockboxes whenever I am in a thread that is not discussing them... I tend to loos my head otherwise...

    But let me give you a tiny example of what I mean:

    http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/8/82/Hyperion_SC2_DevRend2.jpg
    http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/14/83/54/34/i_k_s_15.jpg

    To just name one.
    Why are you so vengeful towards us Swedes?
    Forcing me to relive that horrible memory that the Borta-spellingwhatever ship.

    You a mean mean person you know that? *sits and sulks in a corner* MEANIE!



    However I kinda get what you mean. Ships are similar but I'm not sure... The front is similar yes, but overall I'd call it a homage if anything.
    Qu... Something or the other... Negh'Var variant. I'm seeing more of that ship than the Hyperion when looking at the Borta-spellingwhateverdontcare.
    Oh and *smacks anazonda with a fl
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I'd just let the media cover this one. EA has such a history of banning accounts with Origin for forum comments. I'd hate to have them take away games I enjoy because they were offended by a post... They seriously need stick removal surgery.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Chat wrote:
    Why are you so vengeful towards us Swedes?
    Forcing me to relive that horrible memory that the Borta-spellingwhatever ship.

    You a mean mean person you know that? *sits and sulks in a corner* MEANIE!



    However I kinda get what you mean. Ships are similar but I'm not sure... The front is similar yes, but overall I'd call it a homage if anything.
    Qu... Something or the other... Negh'Var variant. I'm seeing more of that ship than the Hyperion when looking at the Borta-spellingwhateverdontcare.
    Oh and *smacks anazonda with a fl
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    I am not vengeful towards swedes... You guys put alot of money into our hop-brewage based industry, wich in turn makes them cheaper. I am very happy about that...

    What did I say that made you cry? Bortasq?
    Stop using that word!

    May your koldsk
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