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Romulan Warbirds are way too Powerful

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited April 2012 in Ten Forward
How come one can spend all day in a Tactical vessel upgrading weapons repeatedly and still not be able to destroy a Romulan Warbird.
I was at 100% all sheilds at full, shooting quantum torpedos and Very Rare phaser's at a Warbird that was at 30% and no shields, for 2 hours, and still no result.
Infact every time i shot the Warbird seemed to grow from 30% to 70%.
Plus when i exploded right by its engine core it only lost 02%.
How is this Normal ???

Please make Warbirds more Cannon.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Energy Settings?
    What kind of weapons are you using?
    What BO powers do you have at your disposal?

    That particular NPC did make it into the game by accident - but it is entirely beatable with a good setup.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Was that the mission that forces you to play as a shuttle? That one is meant to be invulnerable to your weapons.

    You're supposed to fly into the nebula like the thing tells you to do. Then it'll become vulnerable, but you don't have to kill it yourself anyway.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I CAN feel your pain and try to explain it.
    I was an Admiral in a Romulan fleet Starfleet Command II tester .When we moved over to SFC3..
    The new Warbird was a Dreadnought ,like the Grand Enterprise-D.

    I recently replayed one of the early missions in the Romulan area to save the Griffin a T3 SCI vessel
    patrol faces Mogols and then a WB Boss. The WB with myTAC VA in a Prommie w JEM'HADAR space set
    dual blue phaser cannons retro blue infinity phaser bank fore/aft
    dual proton green cannons purple photon torp eaoverload3 torpspread3
    +21phaser console +24photon Borg universal console +16 energy console. GOOD anti-tet /plasma consoles
    +32kinetic-Breen cluster torp FAW2 Cannon scatter2 rapid fire omega attack pat==a-great-crew
    it was my intention to stand-off and avoid partial burst and tractors they set-up torp spread with
    it was almost as difficult as the Undine cruisers in the omega//pela sectores..until they were corrected
    the WB was staying at 74% for the longest time.;popping enginer heals at borg like rates.lucky-i was full
    of batteries.

    its sheilds were voldormorting me until i picked weapons overload and dropped a pannel
    i had everry cook and clerk throwing rocks to win that knife fight!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Was it a normal D'Deridex or a D'Deridex Defender? If it was a Defender, that would explain the trouble.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Please make Warbirds more Canon.

    Ummm, Warbird were supposed to be powerful vessels in canon. At least as powerful as a Galaxy class if not more so.... Of course that has nothing to do with this game. :o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    All i really want to know is how a level 23 commander can take them warbird defenders down.
    Most times i try i get them to about 70% and then a gold glow covers there hull and heals them upto 95% again.
    It then becomes like a loop of me bring them to 70% only for them to cheat their way back upto 95% with a glowing gold thingy, and this loop can go on for hours, usually ending up with me so frustrated i just give up and want to throw all my toys out of the pram, LOL.:D

    Please tell me how to kill them.

    It was so much easier with my first charactor and engineer, but there must be something different about tactical.

    All i want to do is have a little fun with the game and not get so stuck with it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Where did the defenders come from? I replayed the Noble rescue mission the other day and ran into one on my way out, it was the first time I ever saw one and it was a nightmare to take down. I would get it down to 50% and it would heal back to 90 it was a 15 min battle, not fun!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The USS Noble is what im playing, plus a previous mission in the Raptor systerm.

    Im using very rare phaser cannons and quantum torpedos, i even tried extending my sheilds around the Noble but it just sits there on fire not heading out.
    How can you escort something that hardly moves.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Ive been trying to beat that warbird for 3 days, its odd that when i made the above posts that only moments later i was able to kill the warbird really easily within 10 minutes.
    The same thing happened in the Raptor systerm, i posted about it after 4 days of trying and the next time i tried suddenly the warbirds werent there anymore but in their place were Mogias which i can take down pritty easily.

    Besides i thought that Mogia's where more advanced than the warbird and thus should be stronger according to the tv show and films.
    After all captain picard did threaten to take on 3 warbirds in just a galaxy class.
    And in the movie warbirds werent sent to kill the scmittar because they werent as strong as the new Mogia's.

    Please excuse my spelling, im not good at it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    There will be no Defender Warbirds now. Today's patch removed them from the spawn table.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Are you serious, and if so will there still be Warbirds at all.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Are you serious, and if so will there still be Warbirds at all.

    Those were special warbirds for an upcoming event. The normal ones should be back.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Ah, so it was a test or an error, i see.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    How come one can spend all day in a Tactical vessel upgrading weapons repeatedly and still not be able to destroy a Romulan Warbird.
    I was at 100% all sheilds at full, shooting quantum torpedos and Very Rare phaser's at a Warbird that was at 30% and no shields, for 2 hours, and still no result.
    Infact every time i shot the Warbird seemed to grow from 30% to 70%.
    Plus when i exploded right by its engine core it only lost 02%.
    How is this Normal ???

    Please make Warbirds more Cannon.

    Maybe it was your Starfleet tactics and not the Warbird.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Maybe it was your Starfleet tactics and not the Warbird.

    In your academy, there is a pretty applicable technique for facing such obstacles.

    Adapt or Die, was that what the Headmistress said?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Please make Warbirds more Cannon.

    Wouldn't adding more cannons to Warbirds make them harder to kill? :D

    /runs off into sunset
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Wouldn't adding more cannons to Warbirds make them harder to kill? :D

    /runs off into sunset

    Lol right there ^

    Load the plasma cannon balls!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I can beat the warbirds now, but only after ive been killed three times by the heavy plasma torpedos with 2 seconds flat of engagement, on the fourth time the warbird just sits there and lets itself be killed.
    I might aswell commit sucided the first three tries just to get to the easy fourth try. LOLOLOLOL
    I might be mistaken but the Mogia seem stronger now after the patch update.
    Still things are more fun without those really powerful warbird defenders now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I had some friends at launch who quit the game when they got to Romulan space because of the difficulty jump over the Klingons. No joke. :( They had lifetimes, too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I had trouble beating the Defenders, as a commander in a commander tactical ship, and thought it was a bug until I saw it was possible to beat one on these on the forums. I then went back with a change in tactics, weapons, and bridge crew abilities and chewed one up easily.

    How sad that they took them out; I hope it was just because they were for a special event, and not because people were incompetent in fitting their ships. And if they were for a special event, I hope they put them back in for good someday.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The Romulan \ Remen play is my favourite ingame stuff, i may not be a brill starship fighter or great at equiping the ship with items and personel, but hell, its only a game and one doesnt have to be a professional to just wanna have fun playing.
    I wasnt critisizing the Warbird Defender by the way, far from it, all i wanted to know really was how to beat them. Well their not in the game now so it doesnt matter anymore.

    Still Star Trek Online, keep up the good work, you have me completely addicted to the best game on the web, in my opinion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Play on and there will come a time when you need things like the glitched Defenders to keep you awake :)

    I don't bring out battleships (or design them) unless there are things like Defenders which need something bigger to squash them!

    (Yes I know there are anti-capital 'escorts' with DHCs but I don't like DHCs - science ships as 'light cruisers' are my usual vessels of choice)
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