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Whatever happened to the Enterprise E?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited March 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I've been doing some searching, and now that the Enterprise F has been released during "The 2800," I've been wondering... What happened to her predecessor? The little "hints" during loading screens have stated that Data is the commander of the Enterprise E, but nothing I can find says what happened after that.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    bladefist84 wrote: »
    I've been doing some searching, and now that the Enterprise F has been released during "The 2800," I've been wondering... What happened to her predecessor? The little "hints" during loading screens have stated that Data is the commander of the Enterprise E, but nothing I can find says what happened after that.

    it went missing on its last mission to go see what happened to a space station, and they left it with that, either for a future po=lot or cbs wanted to keep it open so they could use it with a new tv show if there ever is one
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    At this time, nobody knows. Data was seen as the Captain of the E-E in the "Countdown," comic, which was a prequel to the JJ movie, and which Cryptic has generally been treating as canonical. As far as I know, no stories within the game or otherwise have followed up on that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    It got written out of existence by way of temporal paradox by the events of Star Trek.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    No one knows. It went to investigate why Starfleet lost communication with a Starbase.

    Now we have an Enterprise F, indicating that either the E was lost or retired. That's all anyone knows.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    xixboneheadxix wrote:
    it went missing[...]

    I wish people would stop saying that.

    The last thing that happened with the E was that she was dispatched to investigate the loss of contact with a starbase in 2408.

    We do not know what happened to the ship once she was sent out there. Speculation != fact. For all we know, in the one to two years that have followed 2408, she might well have simply been decomissioned.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Koppenflak wrote:
    I wish people would stop saying that.

    The last thing that happened with the E was that she was dispatched to investigate the loss of contact with a starbase in 2408.

    We do not know what happened to the ship once she was sent out there. Speculation != fact. For all we know, in the one to two years that have followed 2408, she might well have simply been decomissioned.

    well thats what i heard a lot of im just repeating what seems to be the majority on here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I speculate that some enjoy the mystery that a missing the E-E suggests. It would make a good story some day. Though I'm recalling (I can't recall who specifically said it) that CBS won't let Cryptic speculate on the E-E's true fate. I further speculate that is because they want the ongoing novels which feature the E-E to continue as long as the books will sell. Which, IMO, isn't unreasonable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Koppenflak wrote:
    We do not know what happened to the ship once she was sent out there. Speculation != fact. For all we know, in the one to two years that have followed 2408, she might well have simply been decomissioned.

    It's true we don't know what happened, but in my opinion, the ship isn't nearly old enough to be decommissioned. It's roughly 40 years old, and it's predecessor, the Galaxy class, was designed to run for 100 years, according to the TNG technical manual.

    IMO, lost or destroyed are the most logical options.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Okay, time for a visit from the 29th century Temporal-31 to explain all this and force us to help maintain the secret.

    Or something.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    i think it was decommissioned. its had one hell of a life being partially assimilated by the Borg having the whole front of it torn off by Picards ramming of the Scimitar and then whatever it had after that. I imagine Data is now head of Oxford university like he was in the last episode of TNG even though that was a different timeline
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Data went crazy, again.

    He hijacked the ship, again.

    Except without a capable crew, he sailed the Enterprise off into oblivion.

    Seriously, with Data's track record for having faulty and/or hidden programming, or behaving in specifically dangerous ways when he takes a bit of damage or stands too close to a magnet, you'd think they'd have kept him away from the captain's chair.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Jeff-El wrote:
    It's true we don't know what happened, but in my opinion, the ship isn't nearly old enough to be decommissioned. It's roughly 40 years old, and it's predecessor, the Galaxy class, was designed to run for 100 years, according to the TNG technical manual.

    IMO, lost or destroyed are the most logical options.

    the Enterprise A was decomissioned after a very short time due to the excelsior far outperforming it.

    It's not about whether the ship has been built to last when it comes to the flagship of Star Fleet. It's about that ship being the best and most advanced in the fleet. This is why The Enterprise B was an Excelsior class ship.

    IMO decommissioned seems most likely. The wars are ramping up, Star Fleet has very few powerful allies and it's becoming apparent that they must fight it alone. A new class of ships built to weather this storm makes sense and a new flagship at the point would fit in with that mold.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    yogurt21 wrote:
    IMO decommissioned seems most likely. The wars are ramping up, Star Fleet has very few powerful allies and it's becoming apparent that they must fight it alone. A new class of ships built to weather this storm makes sense and a new flagship at the point would fit in with that mold.

    But on the other hand, the Sovereign Class still appears to be one of the most advanced ships in Starfleet. Even if it's not the absolute top of the pack any more, I doubt they would decommission one during a time of war, especially when we still have Mirandas/Consitutions/Cheyennes running about.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Jeff-El wrote:
    IMO, lost or destroyed are the most logical options.

    I bet Q had something to do with it, after all Q has a way with any object he likes, remember the incident between Q and Quinn of Voyager? its not out of his reach at all to magically move the ENT-E to another Galaxy.

    Besides you cant officially name a ship until you know its destroyed, what happens if the ENT-E suddenly comes back at a critical moment as the ENT-F is about to be destroyed? that would shoot the fox as it were and expose Shon and his crew as frauds.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    diotw wrote:
    But on the other hand, the Sovereign Class still appears to be one of the most advanced ships in Starfleet. Even if it's not the absolute top of the pack any more, I doubt they would decommission one during a time of war, especially when we still have Mirandas/Consitutions/Cheyennes running about.


    it may still be one of the best but if its not THE best then its not the ship you want going around with the best title. They may have just decommissioned it and changed the name and recommissioned it. At the end of the day everything we say will be speculation until someone says something. I think it was decommissioned to make way for the Odyssey
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    kalic89 wrote:
    it may still be one of the best but if its not THE best then its not the ship you want going around with the best title. They may have just decommissioned it and changed the name and recommissioned it. At the end of the day everything we say will be speculation until someone says something. I think it was decommissioned to make way for the Odyssey

    ENT & ENT-A was 20 years out of date compared to newer ships for it's time, Miranda and Excelsior, there were calls for it to be retired yet it endured until its destruction. why would you throw out a perfectly good ship even if it's old?

    The ENT-E has many more years left on its clock which is the point since it was just out of drydock with upgrades then it was sent to investigate a starbase...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    If the Enterprise-E was decommissioned, it would've been mentioned in the Path to 2409. She is simply MIA.


    If I remember right, they explained her disappearance was a way to keep things going if things in canon should change if there is another series or another TNG movie. (Though the liklihood the past wouldn't be the same anyhow).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Xautos wrote:
    ENT & ENT-A was 20 years out of date compared to newer ships for it's time, Miranda and Excelsior, there were calls for it to be retired yet it endured until its destruction. why would you throw out a perfectly good ship even if it's old?

    The ENT-E has many more years left on its clock which is the point since it was just out of drydock with upgrades then it was sent to investigate a starbase...

    In the case of the Enterprise-A, the most common theory is that the Khitomer Accords called for a reduction of military forces in both the KDF and the Federation. The Constitution-class ships, being some of the older ships in service, were probably TRIBBLE away at first as a result to make room for the newer Excelsior-class ships.

    That's just a theory though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Mattimus_Prime wrote: »
    In the case of the Enterprise-A, the most common theory is that the Khitomer Accords called for a reduction of military forces in both the KDF and the Federation. The Constitution-class ships, being some of the older ships in service, were probably TRIBBLE away at first as a result to make room for the newer Excelsior-class ships.

    That's just a theory though.

    there were only dozen connies in service until the excels took over, hard to believe that considered a serious threat to the klingon empire even with the Accord, yet it was only a smoke screen and the Feds built even more ships and more designs :D. a thoery with alot of holes no less.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    kalic89 wrote:
    it may still be one of the best but if its not THE best then its not the ship you want going around with the best title.
    Then wouldn't you expect the Enterprise to be decommissioned/renamed every, say, 5 - 10 years?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Xautos wrote:
    there were only dozen connies in service until the excels took over, hard to believe that considered a serious threat to the klingon empire even with the Accord, yet it was only a smoke screen and the Feds built even more ships and more designs :D. a thoery with alot of holes no less.
    We don't know how many Connies were in service after the TOS TV era. They might have made dozens between the end of the TV show and TMP. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Well until CBS allows the story to be told, we can assume the Enteprise-E is Missing In Action and presumed lost.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Xautos wrote:
    there were only dozen connies in service until the excels took over, hard to believe that considered a serious threat to the klingon empire even with the Accord, yet it was only a smoke screen and the Feds built even more ships and more designs :D. a thoery with alot of holes no less.

    Not quite right. Kirk said there were 12 ships like the Enterprise in the fleet at the time of "Tomorrow is Yesterday". We can't infer anything canon-wise about the number of Constitution Class ships (ether type) at the time of the ST2. But I would speculate that there would be more Constiaution Class ships added since the first year of Kirks 5 year mission. The Federation was growing larger and getting more members. Starfleet would need more ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Until further notice, the Enterprise E is MIA.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Data didn't have enough cstore points to keep it going
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Staran wrote: »
    Data didn't have enough cstore points to keep it going
    Data had 67 years worth of "playing" - joining the Academy in 2341 and assuming he is dead in 2408. If I can earn 100 CP a day playing Data probably owned Starfleet. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Azurian wrote: »
    If the Enterprise-E was decommissioned, it would've been mentioned in the Path to 2409. She is simply MIA.


    If I remember right, they explained her disappearance was a way to keep things going if things in canon should change if there is another series or another TNG movie. (Though the liklihood the past wouldn't be the same anyhow).

    What? why? The path to 2409 ends in the 2408! A lot of things happened in the 2409! All STO exist in the 2409! You are promoted from Ensign to Vice Admiral in the 2409!
    fuzun wrote: »
    Well until CBS allows the story to be told, we can assume the Enteprise-E is Missing In Action and presumed lost.

    Until CBS allows the story to be told, we don’t know what happened to the E-E. For all we know is on a museum next to the Enterprise A, Enterprise B and the saucer of the Enterprise D.


    Btw, we have this same discussion a few weeks ago, and some one that is still posting here, told me that he was sure that the E-E was gone and the new FE was going to confirm that…..
    I will like to hear a “explanation” of that, lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    Data had 67 years worth of "playing" - joining the Academy in 2341 and assuming he is dead in 2408. If I can earn 100 CP a day playing Data probably owned Starfleet. :)

    No he probably owned the United Federation of Planets. He would have had 2,447,108 C-points (hehe can't help, but not to find the answer love math) With that many c-points I wonder how many Galors he got.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Hoo.. and one more thing.. Starfleet wanted to retire the Enterprise D after more or less 40 years of service in the All Good Things time line.. only Admiral Riker kept it on service..

    So, next time, get your facts right.. if you dont know your canon from the TV show, know it from Memory Alpha: http://en.memory-alpha.org

    A 40 years old Flagship in times of multi wars? Sure..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I could have sworn that CBS aired what happened to the Enterprise-E during the half hour timeslot after Big Bang Theory between the transition from Rules of Engagement and Rob.

    In that special episode, the Enterprise-E arrived at Starbase 236 and found the Borg. The Ent-E was unable to send a message to Starfleet and began to fight their way past the Borg armada. Suddenly, four Romulan Warbirds decloaked and attacked the Ent-E while it was already engaged with the Borg.

    As the lead Warbird was about the fire the killshot, one of the bridge officers pointed out that it was the Ent-E and not the Ent-B. The Romulans hesitated and found themselves engaged with the Borg.

    As the Ent-E began to limp away from the battle, a tiny Klingon Bird of Prey decloaks. Their alpha strike is enough to destroy the Ent-E. As the captain of the Bird of Prey begins celebrating with his crew about destroying the Enterprise, they're caught in a tractor beam from a Tac Cube and destroyed.

    Yep, I could have sworn that's what happened... :rolleyes:
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