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The Battlestar Galactica That Never Happened...

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited March 2012 in Ten Forward
Well this is my 1st time watching this prom of Richard Hatach's Battlestar Galactica, and I must sey with a little more work it could have been great. But it got shot down and instead we got the darker reboot version.

So.............after watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NanYu_Fw8ZU&feature=related

Was it the right choice to make, meaning dropping this version for the rebooted one?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I believe so.

    the only reason the reboot struggled and the plot faltered was the SWG strike. Had that not happened and had had they budgeted the special effects a little better it would have been one of the greatest SCI FI sagas of our time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Oh right that strike did stop a ton of projects at the time, what a real shame too. I would have loved to see this version in place of the rebooted one, but we will never know know how it would have played out now.

    BTW is there still word on a big screen version? I know it was talked about last year, but the talk died off and I have not heard any new word on that project.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Interesting. I thought I odd that that the first part of the intro sounded like B5, just a bit
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I'm glad we got the "dark" version. Best show ever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-P6na9NiO8&feature=related
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Nlo, i doubt that any movie will come about in the near future. Word has died off and it would take a big push to get it though. give it about 5 years or so and the interest will come again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I think your right Captain, but I still think it's a shame they didn't pickup on the original version, to give it a proper ending. That junk they called Galactica; 1980 was just that JUNK. It's one of those things that should ahve never happened.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Sir-Cedric wrote: »
    I think your right Captain, but I still think it's a shame they didn't pickup on the original version, to give it a proper ending. That junk they called Galactica; 1980 was just that JUNK. It's one of those things that should ahve never happened.

    I put this thought to you, Galactca 1980 was rush through weighting filming and post production to capitalize on the the BG boom in popularity after it was canceled in the late 70's. It started out trying to continue a good show but well the path to Hell and all that.

    What would you assume will happen to a movie that capitalize on the tail end of popularity boom of this cycle of BG crazy?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Well as far as the Movie goes, I am not going to hold my breath for one to happen. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Ugh. I dislike the dark reboot if only because so many other scifi shows tried to *very unsuccessfully* copy it. :(

    The last decade has been miserable for scifi for me because of all the emo junk it all has now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    If I wanted emo junk I'd watch Gundam but seeing as emo junk is 90% of the market now...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I loved the BSG we got. But I wouldn't mind alternate takes either. Though I have to admit that I don't like the costumes and designs anymore. But then, that was probably not the biggest SFX budget they had available to them for an experimental trailer...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I'm too big a fan of the one we got to want to take this trailer over that. That said, we still had Apollo acting in it, which was a cool nod to the previous one. Oddly this is the first time I noticed that the original Baltar was played by Kor. Or the dude who played Kor.:o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I'm too big a fan of the one we got to want to take this trailer over that. That said, we still had Apollo acting in it, which was a cool nod to the previous one. Oddly this is the first time I noticed that the original Baltar was played by Kor. Or the dude who played Kor.:o
    Ah, that was the part I found interesting in the trailer. They said something about a Cylon Civil War - this could be an interesting move, having Baltar switch sides several times, maybe backstabbing people regularly. The BSG:TNS Baltar was more an accidental traitor, not exactly a backstabber.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Oddly this is the first time I noticed that the original Baltar was played by Kor. Or the dude who played Kor.:o

    you mean you got a picture of the man as your avatar and dont remember the name John Colicos? as i recalled Baltar controlled the 'crome jobs' as their leader. in the reboot version Baltar is rubbish. its the only bit between both versions which is better.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    It's better that we got the new one, IMO, but they should have stopped directly before they reached the algae planet. Everything after that was just... wah.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tom Zarek as anyone other than Tom Zarek would be a travesty.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    GALACTICA 1980 NEVER HAPPPENED !!!!!!!!!!!!!i
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    That's right Capt, you just remember that, it never happened lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Xautos wrote:
    you mean you got a picture of the man as your avatar and dont remember the name John Colicos? as i recalled Baltar controlled the 'crome jobs' as their leader. in the reboot version Baltar is rubbish. its the only bit between both versions which is better.

    Yeah, my brain stalled when I tried to remember his name. /facepalm
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Sir-Cedric wrote: »
    Well this is my 1st time watching this prom of Richard Hatach's Battlestar Galactica, and I must sey with a little more work it could have been great. But it got shot down and instead we got the darker reboot version.

    So.............after watching this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NanYu_Fw8ZU&feature=related

    Was it the right choice to make, meaning dropping this version for the rebooted one?
    **Goes to a corner and weeps for could have been**

    Aside from some of the ship designs and seeing Michelle Forbes in a officer's uniform, I've always felt New BSG was highly overrated. It just isn't BSG to me, and I would take Hatch's 1990's CGI, old fogies and n00b actors over what the SyFy channel offered, any day.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    **Goes to a corner and weeps for could have been**

    Aside from some of the ship designs and seeing Michelle Forbes in a officer's uniform, I've always felt New BSG was highly overrated. It just isn't BSG to me, and I would take Hatch's 1990's CGI, old fogies and n00b actors over what the SyFy channel offered, any day.

    Some people don't recognize quality, even if it jumps into the atmosphere over them and launches Vipers to open their mind.

    Mustrum "Jump" Ridcully
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Some people don't recognize quality, even if it jumps into the atmosphere over them and launches Vipers to open their mind.

    Mustrum "Jump" Ridcully
    And some people assume too much?

    The ability to recognize quality and LIKING a certain TYPE of thing are not necessarily one and the same.

    I'm sure Chef Bobby Flay can create an amazing cauliflower and radish salad of great quality. Doesn't mean I think it's good or worth eating. So by all means, enjoy your NBSG salad. I'll be content with my Trek, Original BSG and B5 streak and lobster...

    ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Oh, oooh, so it... im speechless!:eek:

    I also see some familiar faces seen in the new galactica series!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    hort_wort wrote: »
    Ugh. I dislike the dark reboot if only because so many other scifi shows tried to *very unsuccessfully* copy it. :(

    The last decade has been miserable for scifi for me because of all the emo junk it all has now.
    I know how you are feeling.

    I wish this show would have got a chance, i would love to watch it.
    Personally i don't like most new sci fi shows, for me it seems they just throw a bunch of dislikable people together, take a well known francise and make a soap out of it.
    On some shows i tried to watch i was really hoping that some of the "heroes" get killed because i really didn't like some of them.
    Instead of making those characters interesting and complex they end up as just some a**h*les that i wouldn't like to meet in real life.


    Live long and prosper.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    And some people assume too much?

    The ability to recognize quality and LIKING a certain TYPE of thing are not necessarily one and the same.

    I'm sure Chef Bobby Flay can create an amazing cauliflower and radish salad of great quality. Doesn't mean I think it's good or worth eating. So by all means, enjoy your NBSG salad. I'll be content with my Trek, Original BSG and B5 streak and lobster...

    ;)
    Man, I just wanted to make some overblown joke, and you end up saying I am vegetarian? Bad form! :p
    Yreodred wrote:

    I know how you are feeling.

    I wish this show would have got a chance, i would love to watch it.
    Personally i don't like most new sci fi shows, for me it seems they just throw a bunch of dislikable people together, take a well known francise and make a soap out of it.
    I don't consider them making "soaps" out of it.

    It's part of "exploring the human condition" of Science Fiction to figure out how people deal with these fantastic situations. We have a haphazard group of people that thave to deal with being stranded in space - let's look at how they deal with it!

    Even TOS had this - rarely, but it had - with stuff like Kirk contempating about his responsiblities as Captain, how to deal with the pressures of his command.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Well I beliebe for the fans of the old series the "BSG that not happened" would have been the better one.
    But for a general audience... well imagine a Star Trek series built upon the continutity of TOS. And I do not mean "including the canon", I mean litarally a Star Trek series in 2003 (with none of the other series happened) where you have to have seen TOS to understand whats going on, with all the old actors. Kind of the planed "Star Trek phase II" (wich was canceled in favor of TMP) just released in 2003.

    As much as I love TOS it wouldnt work, and as great the old BSG may have been, it wouldnt work too.
    The way of writing, directing and acting was diffrent back then. And the "general audience" wouldnt want to dig through a 20 yeras old series to understand the new one. (Unlike TNG or... even SGA, wich you can see without having seen the older series).

    So the "new" BSG was the beter way to go, and result was prety good, without the awfull ending it would easyly be my 2nd favorite show (next to Firefly)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    BSG's ending made sense, though incredibly anticlimactic. But easily one of the best series in Sci-Fi in a long time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Beef wrote: »
    Oh, oooh, so it... im speechless!:eek:

    I also see some familiar faces seen in the new galactica series!

    Yeah, I really had no idea this existed. Thanks, OP, for posting this. I enjoyed the newer series but I think I was pleased by the special effects more than the watered down space drama that the show really was...ya know, that whole sexual tension and who's sleeping with whom bit that seemed to carry on more than a little is garbage in my opinion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Even TOS had this - rarely, but it had - with stuff like Kirk contempating about his responsiblities as Captain, how to deal with the pressures of his command.
    That's not what i meant. (sorry if i was unclear about that :o)
    I was talking about that some series that seem to concentrate too much on who jumps into the bed with whom, than people experiencing adventures in space (not with each other, if you know what i mean :D).
    I am all for things like moral questions and the responsiblilities of command and so on, in fact i like stuff like that.

    I'm just not interested in things like who is in love with whom or people being jealous and stuff like that. I would watch other shows if i where interested in stuff like that.
    But please don't missunderstand me i am not completely against thematics like that, but i think that some of nowadays sci fi series do concentrate just too much on stuff like that.
    Sometimes the main characters seem to be more focused on (in my eyes) trivial personal stuff than about saving their own and other people lives. That makes them act very foolish and unprofessional IMO. Thats just my opinion, i know that many seem to like that kind of style, but i do not.

    I think that it highly depends on how such a story is being showed. For example i liked Farscape very much, which is very much about personal stuff. But it still is very different to SGU for axample.
    I think i just don't like nowadays dark, grim and absolutely humorless style. I see dark, grim and humorless all day, maybe i just don't want to see too much stuff like that on TV too. :)


    But thats not always the case.
    Just let me make an example to show what i mean:
    SGU, i don't like that series. It's not because it was dark and grim (at least more than SG:1 and SG:A), i don't like it because the main characters are just a bunch of a**h*les in my eyes. I don't like that colonel, and that weird professor, but i absolutely HATE that fat teenager, that young soldier and his girl. Man i really hate those three, lol.
    Another example is "the Walking Dead", also very dark and grim series, but in contrast to SGU i if find this series extremely good.

    In short:
    I think it all depends on how a story is told and how the characters are portrayed imo.


    Sorry for that wall of text. :o


    Live long and prosper.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Yreodred wrote:
    That's not what i meant. (sorry if i was unclear about that :o)
    I was talking about that some series that seem to concentrate too much on who jumps into the bed with whom, than people experiencing adventures in space (not with each other, if you know what i mean :D).
    I am all for things like moral questions and the responsiblilities of command and so on, in fact i like stuff like that.
    While this was a topic of some episodes, I don't think it was that important. It was just there because these people were... people.
    Kirk jumped into bed with any attractive alien female he could get (unless Spock or McCoy had their lucky day).

    Maybe it's really just that we have different thresholds for this.
    But thats not always the case.
    Just let me make an example to show what i mean:
    SGU, i don't like that series. It's not because it was dark and grim (at least more than SG:1 and SG:A), i don't like it because the main characters are just a bunch of a**h*les in my eyes. I don't like that colonel, and that weird professor, but i absolutely HATE that fat teenager, that young soldier and his girl. Man i really hate those three, lol.
    A good example of thresholds, I suppose. Several of the characters were annoying to me (absolutely agree her, though I found the fat teenger okay). But they had developed some very interesting story elements.
    I really liked their first contact with that sandstorm type aliens - that was probably the best sci-fi example of a first contact. The handling of aliens in general I liked more.
    And the ultimate mystery the Destiny was chasing. I wanted to know what would happen.
    Another example is "the Walking Dead", also very dark and grim series, but in contrast to SGU i if find this series extremely good.
    I found several of the characters also annoying and their actions stupid. And the Zombie horror part couldn't sustain my interest. WHich is less of a threshold thing and more of a preference thing, I suppose, as I am not all that interested by Zombies. I like a good Zombie flick, but I prefer a more "sci-fi" story...
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