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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Angel, we do a single, regular, weekly build. That is when I would expect this.

    The only time we do another patch is when it's an emergency, game breaking bugfix. And that patch will ONLY be those files involved in that single bug fix.

    This is not a gamebreaking bug. At worst, it is an annoyance.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Okay, Tumerboy! Sorry if I helped stir the pot, however unintentionally. :D Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    I took no offense at people asking for more info.
    Re-quoted for the haters who will probably frantically mash 'post reply' without first reading the prior page.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Last night (Saturday night), laying in bed with my laptop on my chest, I read much of this thread, and then went and sent off another email to the dev mentioned before, and our producer. In that email, I mentioned that it was only being reported with larger ships, and asking if collision could be adjusted instead of the camera itself. I thought this might be new information for the dev to work with.

    Now, It's Sunday morning, I'm still laying in bed, with my laptop on my chest, and I got an email back from my producer saying it's already been fixed. I replied with 'sweet, nevermind then.'

    That's dedication - sitting there waiting and not moving for more than twelve hours. But it's bad for ya - your eyes will melt outta your skull and your muscles will turn to gelatin if you stay there much longer. Get up, move around, get a cup of coffee, exercise your tired eye muscles. *sage nod*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Angel, we do a single, regular, weekly build. That is when I would expect this.

    The only time we do another patch is when it's an emergency, game breaking bugfix. And that patch will ONLY be those files involved in that single bug fix.

    This is not a gamebreaking bug. At worst, it is an annoyance.


    YAY! Thanky taco! :3


    Mmmmmmmm taaacoooos... *drools*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I'm glad you sent off the email, and glad you know people always want to know more even if some folks don't and other folks don't know how to ask nicely. Thanks



    ....
    ...
    ....still really wants to know what the fix is though....;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    CapnBludd wrote: »
    ....still really wants to know what the fix is though....;)

    It'll be like a Springtime Surprise !
    Again , thanks Tumerboy. You are awesome !


    - HippieJohn -
    Don't Worry, I have been warned :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    [...]Last night (Saturday night), laying in bed with my laptop on my chest,[...]

    [...]Now, It's Sunday morning, I'm still laying in bed, with my laptop on my chest, and [...]

    These were the most shocking details to me.

    >_>

    <_<

    Tumerboy, aren't you afraid of laptop burns? =P

    I can imagine your chest hairs' burnt-to-a-crisp smell from over here! :O
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I think his Wife's name is Laptop.


    Crazy post 90's names I tell you ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Angel, we do a single, regular, weekly build. That is when I would expect this.

    The only time we do another patch is when it's an emergency, game breaking bugfix. And that patch will ONLY be those files involved in that single bug fix.

    This is not a gamebreaking bug. At worst, it is an annoyance.

    I want to say, even if I disagree with some things you said in this thread (and who do I agree with entirely?), I REALLY, REALLY appreciate you taking the time to talk about this and interface with the community and explain how things work on your day off.

    And I appreciate the work of whoever changed the camera zoom and I appreciate that they meant well. I really wish you guys would adopt a longer testing cycle and any frustration I have is with deadlines and brevity of testing cycles, not with the person who made this change. I'm sure everyone there at Cryptic gets frustrated with schedules as well, probably including the people tasked with setting them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    meh, I was on my feet all day yesterday, from quite early.

    Today is my day to lay around, sleep, and rest. Hence the laptop use while in bed.
    Currently sitting here, watching Pitch Black and reading the forums. Should probably shower before the sun goes down.
    Then I need to make some progress in ME3.

    Then back to secret projects at work tomorrow.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Then back to secret projects at work tomorrow.

    Oooooh, do tell. :3
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Oooooh, do tell. :3

    um. . . . no?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    um. . . . no?

    Curses! You're too clever for me!

    I'll get you yet, Red Baron!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    meh, I was on my feet all day yesterday, from quite early.

    Tacos has feets? o.O
    Today is my day to lay around, sleep, and rest. Hence the laptop use while in bed.
    and this is different from your normal day how?
    Currently sitting here, watching Pitch Black and reading the forums. Should probably shower before the sun goes down.
    Yes, be clean for the alien beasties that come in the night.
    "They mostly come at night. Mostly..."
    Then I need to make some progress in ME3.
    ... *urge to spoil ending rising* ...
    Then back to secret projects at work tomorrow.

    New sauce recipe?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Pitch Black .

    Pitch Black was WAY better than Chronicles of Riddick.
    They took a perfectly good anti-hero and butchered him into the standard/cookie cutter/run of the mill A-hole hero.
    Horrible.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Then back to secret projects at work tomorrow.

    Might this be one of the same secret projects Heretic is working on? I have no idea what Heretic's secret project is, just that he also teased us about it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Yes, be clean for the alien beasties that come in the night.
    "They mostly come at night. Mostly..."
    Wrong movie.
    Pitch Black is the one where they always come at night. Always.

    And It's only an OK movie. There are some cool bits, but there's plot holes and poorly designed things throughout.
    ... *urge to spoil ending rising* ...
    You do, and so help me. . . I will zoom your camera so far out you will be lucky to make out what SYSTEM you're flying by. . .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    Wrong movie.
    Pitch Black is the one where they always come at night. Always.
    Yes i know. it was an ALIENS reference. In Pitch Black, humans are the aliens. :D
    And It's only an OK movie. There are some cool bits, but there's plot holes and poorly designed things throughout.
    Ya, it wasn't great. A few nice tricks, some cute phrases but nothing wonderful.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Pitch Black is better than it's sequel, in which they totally screwed his character up. I'm interested to see what they do with the third one now that it's (apparently) happening.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    You do, and so help me. . . I will zoom your camera so far out you will be lucky to make out what SYSTEM you're flying by. . .

    Quality comeback :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Hey, since the server just imploded, wanna take this opportunity to slide the fix in now? :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tumerboy wrote: »
    We do our best to guess at what you guys would like/not like, but the dissatisfied parties are always the ones we hear. We heard people dissatisfied with the zoom levels the way they were, so we changed them. No we hear from parties dissatisfied with the change.

    Yup, sounds about right. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Suiadan wrote:
    Will a zoom in option now be sold in the C-Store?[/QUOTE
    dixonium wrote: »
    Don't be ridiculous.

    Someone doesn't understand sacasm.:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    this really seems like a no brainer

    why on earth would a dev waste time restricting our camera options?

    server is on fire around us, tell the noob who reported to...um....back off 1 click? wtf?!

    the ships are the star of star trek, always have been. please restore this option asap.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Or just set up an invisible bounding box around each ship and don't allow the camera to breach that box. The x,y,z extents of the model determine the size of the box.

    Also, it stands to reason that they have many devs who specialize in different things, and so a sysadmin doesn't have the same duties as a database engineer doesn't have the same duties as a modeler doesn't have the same duties as a sound engineer doesn't have the same duties as... yeah, you get the picture.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    not sure why this changed but i liked getting nice and close to my ships it was nice to check out the artwork closer on the ships i purchased.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    this really seems like a no brainer

    why on earth would a dev waste time restricting our camera options?

    server is on fire around us, tell the noob who reported to...um....back off 1 click? wtf?!

    the ships are the star of star trek, always have been. please restore this option asap.

    I agree with this. And Tumerboy mentioned he wasn't sure if the complaint came from the community or the dev team. And if there's somebody on the dev team that doesn't know how to properly utilize the zoom function.......then that person need not be on the dev team.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Strange, my camera distance is so close now I can put it inside my Hermes-class fleet escort, resulting in my entire ship disappearing but the impulse graphics ghostily floating along inside my camera. Rather disconcerting, really.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Please put the zoom back in the game, I liked checking out my ship close up!!!
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