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Terra Nova cancelled

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited March 2012 in Ten Forward
Though the network declines to move forward with a second season of its pricey time traveling series from Steven Spielberg, 20th TV will attempt to shop it to other networks.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/terra-nova-cancelled-fox-spielberg-258808

.. saw that one coming
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I had no idea why it was even a show... :p :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Looks like the Millions of dollars went to special effects on every 5th show, where it should have gone into the sets, story and scripting. A huge difference in comparisons to say, Lost, that felt more polished. It felt like watching 4400 that Rene Echevarria was also involved in full of cardboard sets.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Just goes to show you sci fi has taken a TRIBBLE dive in tv land...id say were due up for trek on tv again not stargate galactica not land of the lost terra nova. Notice the good stuff like firefly with its low budget was tons better and got the axe or babylon 5 wich was way ahead of its time and nearly cancellee like 4 times as well. Oh well...back to the walking dead and game of thrones.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    terra nova was an ok show. it got decent towards the end but it was never amazing. sci-fi shows are always the first to get axed because of how much they cost. they never seem to pull in the viewers, yet strangely sci-fi films seem to do brilliantly at the box office.

    its almost like there is a stigma around sci-fi tv shows that people dont want to watch them, yet they will go to the cinema to see virtually the same thing.

    Fringe is another show on the bubble. it is a brilliant show but it will probably get cancelled because the viewing figures are not there.

    i dont know if im more upset with the networks cancelling all these sci-fi shows like V, STU, enterprise, Farscape, Firefly etc or the public for not switching off the TRIBBLE reality tv and watching something that is actually good.

    At least the networks have a business reason, they wont have a show that effectively losses them money but why are people going to invest their time knowing that a show will be gone after one season.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The good news is reality tv in 100 years will be our scifi shows now haha....if we make it that long of course......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Sci Fi TV serials are very risky due to their high cost.

    Personally, the era of space related TV shows or shows with a huge amount of special effects, and even Sci Fi in general is over - the Reality TV crowd outweight those with a heart for sci fi.

    In regards to Terra Nova - I knew the show was going to get the proverbial axe, due to the simple fact that the premise itself was lame, and you can only do so much with it before it started to get repetitve.

    Sure you have the man vs man factor - but might as well compare that to the dog chasing its own tail. The setting of Terra Nova lack any novelty and it was just a re-dressing of ancient shows and movies like "The Last Dinosaur," "The Land of the Lost," with the added twist of the movie "Millennium." You can also add in the modern movie Jurassic Park.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    *facepalm* not again! :mad:

    why do i always fall into the trap and start watching new shows on FOX?!
    by now it should be clear to me that it just isn't worth my time because they CANCEL EVERYTHING!


    RIP Terra Nova :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Well it was on FOX .... (do I have to say more)
    The good news is reality tv in 100 years will be our scifi shows now haha....if we make it that long of course......

    with all that reality TV etc etc ... thats probably the most likely Sci-Fi, thats gonna happen :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    When are these idiot networks going to get it through their heads that a good story driven sci-fi show really needs 3 seasons to get it's self setup for the really good stuff. It never used to be like that when a season was 23-26 episodes that were 50 mins out of an hour, not the 40 mins out of an hour with 13 episodes they do now.

    Season 1: Introduction to Cast/Characters and back-story (setting, technology, etc.)

    Season 1 final episode/cliff hanger: The first episode to really start the main story-line/drama/action

    Season 2: Continuation of Season 1 finale episode main story line start

    Season 2: Slam and jam with main story-line action/drama. Not bogged down with back story/tech because that was taken care of in season 1

    Season 2 Final Episode/Cliff Hanger: Expendable character death, or character arc reversal where most expendable becomes most important.

    Season 3 Opening Episode: Continuation from season 2 finale and set up for the next 2-4 episodes to finish out Season 2 story arc.

    Season 3 Rest of: 1/2 character driven, 1/2 setup for season 4 new main story line.

    Season 3 Finale Episode: Beginning of season 4 Main story drama/action.

    Simplest season outline possible. Even using this template over and over and on a variety of shows it wouldn't feel "recycled" if the storyline/cast/character arcs/Drama to action ratio is solid. If this feels "recycled" then that should be a good primer to base a rewrite redevelopment of the initial plot and/or layout.

    The networks also need to finally realize that the old ratings system no longer works. There are numerous different ways that you can watch pretty much anything you want and the majority of them can't be tracked. The second it became possible to stream or download tv shows/movies the ratings system stopped being a reliable source, the networks need to finally play catch up and realize this, and adjust for that unknown variable better than they are now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    its almost like there is a stigma around sci-fi tv shows that people dont want to watch them, yet they will go to the cinema to see virtually the same thing.

    It's a game of dollars. Jurassic Park was two hours of dinosaurs eating people and people afraid of being eaten by dinosaurs. Its budget could feed a mid sized continent and the studio directly reaped money for every view. Terra Nova would have blown its whole season's budget on a couple episodes if it kept up the same pace, and doesn't directly extract money from viewer wallets.

    Imagine if Michael Bay's Transformers movies were on a TV budget. You'd have six episodes alternating between Bumblebee trying to fit in with the other cars, Sam trying to get laid, and Optimus Prime saying impressive things, then one episode of explosions and giant robot carnage and awesome, then next episode Sam meets a new girl and the only Transformer we see is Bumblebee parked by the curb outside.

    How many people would tune in every Thursday to watch that? Now how many would want to watch two solid hours of that one awesome episode?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Darn it. I really liked this show :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Thutmosis wrote:
    Well it was on FOX .... (do I have to say more)



    with all that reality TV etc etc ... thats probably the most likely Sci-Fi, thats gonna happen :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk

    Nope, your bias is clear enough. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Nope, your bias is clear enough. :rolleyes:

    I wouldn't call it a bias. Fox has a long history of mangling quality or popular television shows. Heh.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Brannon Braga now 0 for 2 after leaving Star Trek. Can't say I'm surprised.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Maybe I'm overthinking it but...

    Why would they go back time. Wasn't there kind of a danger of upsetting the evolutionary process by being there and introducing "new" viruses and things to the ecosystem. :confused:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    And there goes my Shelley Conn fix :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
    Maybe I'm overthinking it but...

    Why would they go back time. Wasn't there kind of a danger of upsetting the evolutionary process by being there and introducing "new" viruses and things to the ecosystem. :confused:

    All things considered, it'd still be preferable to what they left. And if they unleashed a plague, all the better - they wouldn't be the ones suffering from it. Those sorts of things tend to hit the largest animals worst, especially carnivores. Drive a few of the bigger annoyances to extinction, import some more familiar livestock, and continue preemptively wrecking the planet all over again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Nope, your bias is clear enough. :rolleyes:
    superchum wrote: »
    I wouldn't call it a bias. Fox has a long history of mangling quality or popular television shows. Heh.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLqyLmyG3F4 nothing more to say here :P
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
    Maybe I'm overthinking it but...

    Why would they go back time. Wasn't there kind of a danger of upsetting the evolutionary process by being there and introducing "new" viruses and things to the ecosystem. :confused:

    The series is initially set in 2149, a time when overpopulation and declining air quality worldwide threatens all life on Earth. After scientists discover a rift in spacetime, they begin sending people in a series of "pilgrimages" 85 million years into Earth's Cretaceous past, to a different "time stream"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Fox did railroad Firefly. A decision that still sticks to Fox like a fly on...well, you know what I mean. :rolleyes:

    Terra Nova certainly had its share of uneven writing. But I have never seen a freshman season of sci-fi TV that didn't. Of course, a network would cancel a production just as it gets interesting. I hope another network does take it under wing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    hevach wrote: »
    All things considered, it'd still be preferable to what they left. And if they unleashed a plague, all the better - they wouldn't be the ones suffering from it. Those sorts of things tend to hit the largest animals worst, especially carnivores. Drive a few of the bigger annoyances to extinction, import some more familiar livestock, and continue preemptively wrecking the planet all over again.

    No, I mean if you killed one of the early mammal species that would eventually give way to humans. At best you only wipe out humanity, at worst you cause a temporal paradox.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
    No, I mean if you killed one of the early mammal species that would eventually give way to humans. At best you only wipe out humanity, at worst you cause a temporal paradox.

    Said it before .... but ....
    The series is initially set in 2149, a time when overpopulation and declining air quality worldwide threatens all life on Earth. After scientists discover a rift in spacetime, they begin sending people in a series of "pilgrimages" 85 million years into Earth's Cretaceous past, to a different "time stream"

    So basically the parallel universe stuff like with the new Star Trek Movie ....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Thutmosis wrote:
    Said it before .... but ....



    So basically the parallel universe stuff like with the new Star Trek Movie ....



    Oh.... </10char>
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
    No, I mean if you killed one of the early mammal species that would eventually give way to humans. At best you only wipe out humanity, at worst you cause a temporal paradox.

    They were 85 million years back. In another 20 million you'd get the asteriod strike that wiped out 99% of the existing species reptile, mamal, or otherwise. So, not really much chance of TRIBBLE with evolution in the long rn I suppose. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Some characters in the story made the same assumption. However, they Earth of the past in which they live isn't their Earth. It's an Earth of an alternate timeline. The asteroid strike may never happen at all. In which case a Dinotopia could flourish.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Thats the thing these days. Modern sci shows is all about looks etc and less about story telling which is okay for a movie but for a tv series it should be more about storying telling or at least a balance between the both, story telling and looks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Not surprised. Always thought that Berman and Braga always played it too safe, and as a result their shows were a little too lukewarm.

    I watched Terra Nova. I wasn't impressed. I honestly don't miss it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    jkstocbr wrote:

    Does anyone care? Not like the show was any good.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Give us STAR TREK!

    its time for trek to come back !
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Armsman wrote: »
    They were 85 million years back. In another 20 million you'd get the asteriod strike that wiped out 99% of the existing species reptile, mamal, or otherwise. So, not really much chance of TRIBBLE with evolution in the long rn I suppose. ;)

    id like to think that if the new colony lasted 20 million years using knowledge and technology already significantly better than ours that they could stop an asteroid.
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