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edited February 2012 in Ten Forward
Data calls French archaic. (The French captain has an English accent)
Professor Farnsworth calls it crazy gibberish. (in the pilot the French speak English)

What makes French more likely to disappear in the future in favor of British English? Is WWIII started by the Brits finally having enough? :p


Oh, and this is a light-hearted thread for those of you who don't understand humor. :rolleyes:
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    What kind of food is "doomed"? I know "toast" and "fries", which is a fairly dooming fate for the ingredients already.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Data calls French archaic. (The French captain has an English accent)
    Professor Farnsworth calls it crazy gibberish. (in the pilot the French speak English)

    What makes French more likely to disappear in the future in favor of British English? Is WWIII started by the Brits finally having enough? :p


    Oh, and this is a light-hearted thread for those of you who don't understand humor. :rolleyes:

    They are not willing to let their language adapt, stagnation is just a less abrupt word for death. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    est-il le Robert est-il condamn
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    What happened was that in the year 2065, the French-French speakers got into one of the most heated arguments about language with the Canadian-French speakers that the French-speaking world had ever known. They argued for about 5 years, almost non-stop until eventually, the two languages and debates simply cancelled each other out, thereby eliminating the language altogether.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    because its french.

    what other afflictions must it suffer beyond that?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Bonjour! Pouvez-vous parler fran
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    It surrendered.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Someone is ignoring forum rules...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Someone is ignoring forum rules...

    This is a light-hearted discussion as to why every hollywood future relegates French to the annuls of history.

    The comments in French are, honestly, expected and most of them are cliche anyway.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Someone is ignoring forum rules...

    Sacre Bleu!!! (I don't even know what that means.) :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Senechall wrote:
    Sacre Bleu!!! (I don't even know what that means.) :D

    Obviously, they are talking about Blue Sacres. Duh! :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    My guess is they became so snobbish they couldn't even stand one another and promptly died out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    SenshiBat wrote: »
    est-il le Robert est-il condamn
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    mizarone wrote: »
    Bonjour! Pouvez-vous parler fran
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The 3 most used languages in the world are English, French and Spanish. In that order popular use.

    So another question is: If French "died" in the Trek universe, did Spanish go first?
    Or did Spanish go where no French word had gone before?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The 3 most used languages in the world are English, French and Spanish. In that order popular use.

    So another question is: If French "died" in the Trek universe, did Spanish go first?
    "

    i do not believe that is correct. manderin is first, english second and hindi and spanish are around 3rd and fourth. french is in the top 10 but not third.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Well, in the Star Trek future, the Americans obviosuly won WW3 (if you can win a nuclear war at all), and most of China and India and Europe became rather irrelevant. Hence the domination of the English language, and hence the obvious predominance of Americans among human Starfleet officers.

    Yes, Picard is French, but apart from him, how many non-American officers can you count as opposed to those who seem to be from America?

    American Starfleet personnel:
    • Archer
    • Tucker
    • Kirk
    • McCoy
    • Janice Rand
    • Riker
    • Crusher sen.
    • Crusher jun.
    • LaForge
    • Sisko
    • Bashir
    • Janeway
    • Kim (yes, Harry was obviously an American)
    • Paris

    Non-American human Starfleet personnel from Earth:
    • Reed
    • Sato
    • Scotty
    • Sulu
    • Uhura
    • Chekov
    • Picard
    • Worf (in a way, he is Russian)
    • O'Brian

    If becomes even worse if you count all the anglophones as "Americans" in the above lists...

    Now, if we assume that this is sort of representative for Earth's population, we can conclude that America is the most populous of the surviving countries after WW3. Today, America has a bout 5% of Earth's population, in the centuries after WW3, it seems to be more like 60%. :p

    And many countries simply don't seem to exist any more.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    sophlogimo wrote:
    American Starfleet personnel:
    • Archer
    • Tucker
    • Kirk
    • McCoy
    • Janice Rand
    • Riker
    • Crusher sen.
    • Crusher jun.
    • LaForge
    • Sisko
    • Bashir
    • Janeway
    • Kim (yes, Harry was obviously an American)
    • Paris

    LaForge was born in the African Confederation.

    Bashir is middle eastern yet seems to have a fond love of British culture so who knows where he was born.

    kim was meant to be asian although even Garrat never knew what nationality he was meant to be playing.

    Crusher was born on the moon but has roots from Scotland.

    im not even sure if sisko's birth place was ever 100% confirmed although his father lives in San Francisco so lets just assume he is american.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    LaForge was born in the African Confederation.

    Okay, we're down to 55% Americans then. :)
    Bashir is middle eastern yet seems to have a fond love of British culture so who knows where he was born.

    No, he is not middle eastern. Hint: His first name is "Julian". His father's first name was "Richard".
    kim was meant to be asian although even Garrat never knew what nationality he was meant to be playing.

    Harry. With his parents being called John and Mary. That's not very Asian. ;)
    Crusher was born on the moon but has roots from Scotland.

    Okay, 50% Americans then. The percentage of Anglophones remains the same, which is... astonishing. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    sophlogimo wrote:
    No, he is not middle eastern. Hint: His first name is "Julian". His father's first name was "Richard".

    let me clarify, the actor alexander siddig is middle eastern, so by the colour of his skin there is some middle eastern in julian as well.

    bashir is an arabic name. His mother is called Amsha which does not sound very american either. Julian and richard may not be but thats the whole 24th century, all one happy family thing. there is enough uncertainty in his make up to not be able to call him american.

    Harry. With his parents being called John and Mary. That's not very Asian. ;)

    John and mary are not even american names unless america was around the time of the bible was being written. again in the 24th century there is a lot of mix and matching of all being one happy united earth. to me thats not enough to nail him down as american.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    sophlogimo wrote:
    Well, in the Star Trek future, the Americans obviosuly won WW3 (if you can win a nuclear war at all), and most of China and India and Europe became rather irrelevant. Hence the domination of the English language, and hence the obvious predominance of Americans among human Starfleet officers.

    Or it could simply be, you know, because it's an American show and all?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    let me clarify, the actor alexander siddig is middle eastern, so by the colour of his skin there is some middle eastern in julian as well.

    bashir is an arabic name. His mother is called Amsha which does not sound very american either. Julian and richard may not be but thats the whole 24th century, all one happy family thing. there is enough uncertainty in his make up to not be able to call him american.

    IIRC, Siddig is Pakistani.

    Bashir's parents were of obvious Middle Eastern decent. But they had British accents. After Bashir was genetically enhanced, they moved. Even if they spoke little English when they moved, after spending an entire life around those with a British accent, it is understandable they would all pick up on that accent.

    I wouldn't call him American. But I would agree that it would appear America and it's allies won WWIII. And when you consider Britain and Australia as major American allies, then a good chunk of the victors speak English or some variety of it. All we know is WWIII happened and that it ended. We also know there was a cease-fire. But we don't know the terms of that cease-fire.

    WWIII in the Star Trek universe would make a good book series.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    lets not forget the beauty of the universal translator.

    its possible people are speaking different languages at times but the translator is changing it. (although best not to dig to deeply into the technology or 'magic' of the translator).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    lets not forget the beauty of the universal translator.

    its possible people are speaking different languages at times but the translator is changing it. (although best not to dig to deeply into the technology or 'magic' of the translator).

    My favorite feature is the holographic overlay that makes their lips speak English also! :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Someone is ignoring forum rules...

    And thus started the downfall of the French language! :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Invading france is hardly WWIII material.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    hort_wort wrote: »
    My favorite feature is the holographic overlay that makes their lips speak English also! :p

    like how it never translates qapla' or any klingon swear word.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Data calls French archaic

    No, he didn't.
    He used the word "obscure".:p
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