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ST:VOY Year of Hell = Movie

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Ten Forward
I was watching the ST:VOY Year of Hell episodes, while Voyager had it's faults, does anyone else believe it was a lost opportunity for the franchise? I remember reading several articles around the web that stated "Year of Hell" was suppose to last an entire season, but for whatever reason was cut and condensed into a 2 part episode.

If the idea was left intact as an overall story arc for the Voyager crew, would you have gone and seen it? Or does everyone believe it could have been a flop like Nemesis (debatable) was for the franchise in the late 2000s?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    No.

    I stopped enjoying the films after they switched to using CGI starships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    That would have been worse than JJ's abomination. The Year of Hell shouldn't have even happened because Kes warned Janeway about it...then 7 of 9 took Kes' place and just copy + pasted lines that Kes used ...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    hort_wort wrote: »
    No.

    I stopped enjoying the films after they switched to using CGI starships.

    so you stopped watching in mid DS9?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    It would have made an excellent movie. Certainly a missed opportunity.

    But then again, I think the whole of the Voyager series should have been like Year of Hell and was a missed opportunity. I wanted to see what would happen when the technology around them began to break down, as Voyager transitioned from state of the art Federation vessel to a ship being held together by the skin of its teeth. To see the crew uniforms get slowly tattered, nerves begin to fray, attempts on Janeways leadership, mutiny, and some very dark stories, but at the end of the day the lead characters pulling together and surviving against the odds.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Capt_wirge wrote:
    so you stopped watching in mid DS9?

    I didn't stop watching the series, I meant that the movies didn't feel as movie-like when they started using more CGI and less models for their shots. It just looks cheap and ruins the mood for me. The ending of Star Trek 6 would have *sucked* if they tried those same shots with CGI ships. The torpedoes blasting through the saucer sections of the Enterprise and Excelsior would've been replaced with a little bit of glow and some scorch marks. The exploding Bird of Prey, ohhhhh they would've just removed the ship altogether and replaced it with a stock explosion clip. :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Voyager failed hard, it was such a waste of potential, Ron Moore tried to fix things up when he tried going over after DS9 but from what I understand they didn't care and the writing staff were pretty much incompetent.
    Ira Steven Behr and Moore would've made Voyager as incredible as DS9.

    I can't even sit through a Voyager episode these days.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I think it had the potential to be a "theme" of that particular season. If they were allowed to do something a bit more permanent with it. Replace a few of the characters, by the end of the season, for example I'd have probably had just Janeway, Paris, Torres, The doctor and 7 survive it. Would have had Tuvok, Chakotay and the invincible Harry Kim die in the most heroic and sacrfiicingly awesome ways possible.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Enterprise Season 3 was more along the lines of what Voyager should've been all those years, a constant struggle, the ship barely holding together, the crew on the verge of losing it due to the stress of what they're going through, cut off from Starfleet.

    Voyager made everything look like a holiday, terrible weak writing and all round TRIBBLE story telling.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Voyager is my favorite trek series. It had the best crew and the best ship.

    Year of hell wouldn't work as a plot for entire season. We would see the ship being gradually destroyed, some members of the crew would die other characters would evolve and than at the end of the season Janeway would reset the entire timeline? This would be the biggest disappointment in the trek franchise, matched only by the Abrams movie.

    Reversing events that happened over two hours (from the viewer perspective) is something different than reversing events of 20 weeks.

    If it would be a movie I would go to see it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Year of Hell was one of the more interesting premises in the "standstill" that calls itself Voyager.
    It deserved a bigger arc of at least 3 episodes.
    But that would´ve "broken the mold". Entirely too much creative out of the Box thinking for the likes of Berman& Braga.

    Small wonder it got 2 episodes at all. Probably Jeri Ryan vigorously tending to her "girlfriendly duties" leading to Braga´s head deflating for a small period of time. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    the reset button nature of it needed it to be a two part story, but in many ways i wish that had been the premise of the whole 7 seasons. each season voyager should take a little more of a beating. the final ep the ship should probably have just about limped home.

    i swear voyager came back in better shape than when it left, which did nothing to create any tension of being lost in deep space, but the show is ultimately star trek and it needed to have some positivity.

    i would not want it to become battlestar galactica or anything. as much as i liked that show each series needs to keep its identity. just look at stargate universe. it lost its identity and while enjoyable it was not a stargate show. voyager was very star trek but they could have been in the alpha quadrant for most of it for all the difference it made.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Voyager had too many creature comforts for me to care that they were stranded on the other side of the galaxy. One of the writers for the show said in an interview awhile back that they too were irked over the way Voyager was presented. it was an amazing concept that lacked true follow through. They should have taken a beating every year they were out there, had no Holodeck, more tension between the Maquie and Starfleet crews, etc. Instead every week the ship was restored to factory condition despite the previous episode.

    In fact that was continued until Enterprise NX-01 encountered the Romulan minefield, and had to make repairs the next episode.
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