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Guild Wars 2 ripping off STO?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Ten Forward
Youtube Yogscast: Guild Wars 2

If you go to 13:12 in the video, they go into the arena, and in it you'll find giant worms with very similar artistic looks to the Aehallh Worm in our game.

STO wiki

Not only that but the animations and everything about it (including that your fighting them in an arena in a hunting/ gladitorial competition) bear close resemblance to what we have in the STO episode of "Coliseum".
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Um, no... worms have always been in the Guild Wars games. The small ones are "worms" and the giant ones are "wurms." GW2 is upping the visuals and animations, but they always looked and acted just like that, years before STO was made.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Why would anyone want to rip off STO?

    Its not like its an industry success story.


    (I personally like the older FE's and the Doff system)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    they had them in guild wars 2 however they were just on land not in snow
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The original Guild Wars has a number of "Wurms"( The official name ) since the game was released in early 2005. They ranged from Lava to Snowtypes and everywhere in between.

    Of course they probably got it from Dune, but still.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm pretty sure there was one worm in the snow on Prophecies. It was one you could cap an Elite skill from.

    On a side note, I consider these worm NPCs to be among the most horrendous in any game. :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Those worms have been in Guild Wars longer than STO has been in existence.

    They are one of the first mobs you run into in a farm field right outside one of the Sanctuaries.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    There's nothing in GW2 ripping off STO. Trust me. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Nagorak wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure there was one worm in the snow on Prophecies. It was one you could cap an Elite skill from.

    On a side note, I consider these worm NPCs to be among the most horrendous in any game. :eek:

    Yeah, that was Maw the Mountain Heart . That thing was nasty to cap.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    forresto wrote: »
    Youtube Yogscast: Guild Wars 2

    If you go to 13:12 in the video, they go into the arena, and in it you'll find giant worms with very similar artistic looks to the Aehallh Worm in our game.

    STO wiki

    .

    And they look remarkablly like the "worms" in Hellfire Peninsula in WoW.

    There is very little you will not be able to find in other games if you look hard enough. There is very little that can be original about a worm, a human, an orc and so on and so forth. It is well known the industry tends to borrow from each other.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Worms will be worms...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Frank Herbert is spinning in his grave.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Doomicile wrote:
    Frank Herbert is spinning in his grave.

    I'll get to Dune later. Me? I'm still ****ed off that LOTRO stole orcs from Everquest! Brad McQuaid should sue Turbine!

    ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    ZOMG GU1LD WaRS ST0L3 FR0M STO.. GU1LD WaRS 2 IS LAM3 AND FA1L ZOMG RAGE :mad::mad::mad:

    LOL This is an interesting thread.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Nope, those look, well, not exactly, but quite like the worms from the original, so, don't think they're really ripping it from STO, maybe both artists drew from similar inspiration or something, or maybe there's only so much you can do with a giant death worm.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    forresto wrote: »
    Youtube Yogscast: Guild Wars 2

    If you go to 13:12 in the video, they go into the arena, and in it you'll find giant worms with very similar artistic looks to the Aehallh Worm in our game.

    STO wiki

    Not only that but the animations and everything about it (including that your fighting them in an arena in a hunting/ gladitorial competition) bear close resemblance to what we have in the STO episode of "Coliseum".

    GW or for that matter ARENANET the studio - DID NOT, I repeat, DID NOT rip off anything from STO.

    For starters GuildWars 2 has been in developmental way before the existence of STO - second, the worms were not inspired by STO, its more likely CRYPTIC was inspired by GuildWars or the movie DUNE.

    In Guild Wars there were several versions of these worms, some small, some giants, and one rare one that was a Behemoth.

    They existed in the dessert, and in the snow - GW:EN had Frost worms - pesty enemies that were a pain to beat.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    More likely Tremors than Dune, in my opinion, but yeah... Guildwars had them long before STO. WoW and Mass Effect both had similarly styled worms long before STO. Hell Final Fantasy has them off and on at least as far back as VI. There's a short list of ways to make a worm fight an above-ground player, and even shorter when you want the worm to stay partially underground. You end up getting a lot of overlap.

    Even if anyone did rip them off from STO, STO hasn't' exactly made prominent use of the ones it has.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If you did any mod for any major game you will soon realize it can be very difficult not to create similar things your fellow modders are making if you're all out to achieve something similar.

    Just like in the modding world, there are people who just say, hey, great minds think alike, and there are others who send you cease and desist PMs first, and check who actually created the idea later. At other times a good idea is unfortunately ignored but someone necromances the thread 6 months later and posts an identical copy as his own :)


    ps. Are the STO space armours inspired by Tron? Especially if you play a science character, the blue panels and EL lighting are TRON-ish.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The first time I remember seeing worms like this, (digging around underground, coming of through the earth) was in Dune... Nothing new about thing... (in fact a scene from Dune replayed for me in coliseum xD).

    When it comes right down to it, I've seen most of what I've expirienced in STO so far in other games at least half a dozen times...

    Basically: If it works... Make it too...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    BlackV7 wrote:
    They existed in the dessert
    :eek: yuck.

    Sacrifices to the ultimate goddess of Ten'Char
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Actually STO would do good in ripping of Guild Wars2, especially in regards to the realm vs realm PVP combat scenarios and logistics.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Dune wants its worms back.
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