The USS Typhon (NX-85808) is a Typhon-class starship, in operation in the 24th century. Described by Captain Jean-Luc Picard as a "mobile outpost and carrier starship", the Typhon is a prototype vessel, capable of carrying 26 Valkyrie-class fighters, and armed with pulse phaser turrets and quantum torpedoes. During the Titan System Incident, the Typhon was commanded by Lieutenant Commander Worf, and was dispatched to the Titan system as an advanced scout.
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The production model Type 1 Valkyrie assigned to Red Squad evolved as well.
Type 1a Valkyries were modified with technology taken from a captured Kam'Jahtae fighter. ("Rightful Masters")
Type 2 Valkyries - also known as Valor-class variants - had heavier armor and additional weapons systems, and shared similarities with the Orca, although two large outboard nacelles were added to the wings of the spaceframe in an E shape. These variants were upgraded to the more heavily armed type 2a shortly after their initial deployment.
Type 3 Valkyries were fitted with advanced weaponry and were a significant departure from types 1 and 2, with two pylons mounted on the forward hull reaching forward in a Y to two back curved nacelles bracketing the spaceframe . Type 3a Valkyries were deployed towards the end of the incident. An even more highly advanced Type 3a Valkyrie piloted by Ryan Cooper was successful in closing the Hur'q interspatial rift. ("End of Eternity")
Following the success of the Typhon's mission in the Titan system, the Valkyrie squadron was placed on active duty.
The Typhon was delivered to it's operational theater by a Sovereign which is much larger than the Typhon.
It is a Activision game, you know that gaming company that is upset by the way the IP treated them. I do not see them relinquishing rights easily. Besides the "saucer" hides the Bussard collectors when looking at the craft nose on.
It is soft canon.
This game has the distinction of being the only continuation of the prime universe. Already it has been the touch stone of the newest iteration of the Enterprise. The further we step from canon the less impact STO will have on the prime universe. Just wanted to underscore what you really ask for when you step away from established canon to request a federation carrier.
The Typhon was delivered to it's operational theater by a Sovereign which is much larger than the Typhon.
It is a Activision game, you know that gaming company that is upset by the way the IP treated them. I do not see them relinquishing rights easily. Besides the "saucer" hides the Bussard collectors when looking at the craft nose on.
It is soft canon.
This game has the distinction of being the only continuation of the prime universe. Already it has been the touch stone of the newest iteration of the Enterprise. The further we step from canon the less impact STO will have on the prime universe. Just wanted to underscore what you really ask for when you step away from established canon to request a federation carrier.
well i wouldnt like that specifically but a fed carrier of another design would be great
well i wouldnt like that specifically but a fed carrier of another design would be great
Will it not make you happy to have access to a Catian Carrier? They are a member of the Federation, so are the Andorian and the Vulcans and well another fifty or so other races. Why MUST it be a Starfleet vessel when it flies in the face of canon and the IP of Star Trek?
To implement the Federation Carrier the Devs will most likely use the same trick they used to get Science Vessels to the KDF, they will release it as a Member species vessel only.
This appeases any CBS concerns and Genre slips over why the federation would have a carrier and delivers what the playerbase wants.
I hope they do not make a straight designed and built by the federation carrier.
If the Devs do that (especially from a soft canon source) then the KDF needs a MVA vessel (as soft canon supports it) becuase the cat will be out of the bag and the uniqueness of faction diversity in vessel will be completely undone.
Of course the game will just become red versus blue at that point. As long as it makes money though, right? :rolleyes:
I will repeat what has been stated earlier: I do not feel that a carrier is suitable for the Federation. Fighters do not appear to be all that effective and serve mostly, only as what in SFB we called 'attrition units,' that is, target spam. Distractions. Things to get blown up before the main ship gets attacked. Manned ablative armor. I can see Klingons trading combat effectiveness for 'ten seconds of more glory than you'll get behind the helm of a bird of prey,' but not the Federation. The Federation does not strike me as a society that would throw away lives like that but for desperate times such as in Sacrifice of Angels. I cannot see them deploying dedicated flatbed carriers to transport, service, launch, and recover a weapons system that is of dubious and marginal utility.
We have these things in the real world, right now, called UAVs.
I'm confident that the creative engineers of Starfleet can come up with something clever and effective to suit the theatre of space exploration & combat.
To implement the Federation Carrier the Devs will most likely use the same trick they used to get Science Vessels to the KDF, they will release it as a Member species vessel only.
This appeases any CBS concerns and Genre slips over why the federation would have a carrier and delivers what the playerbase wants.
I hope they do not make a straight designed and built by the federation carrier.
If the Devs do that (especially from a soft canon source) then the KDF needs a MVA vessel (as soft canon supports it) becuase the cat will be out of the bag and the uniqueness of faction diversity in vessel will be completely undone.
Of course the game will just become red versus blue at that point. As long as it makes money though, right? :rolleyes:
Not if the carrier was an escort hybrid with one hanger (instead of a cruiser or sci mix), it would be a little different then the KDF, and there is nothing wrong with giving the KDF a MVA vessel.
Will it not make you happy to have access to a Catian Carrier? They are a member of the Federation, so are the Andorian and the Vulcans and well another fifty or so other races. Why MUST it be a Starfleet vessel when it flies in the face of canon and the IP of Star Trek?
I never said I would not be happy with a caitian carrier, I said fed carrier not standard star fleet design carrier, as caitians are a member of the federation as you stated, then it would still be a fed carrier, idc what race within the federation, although I disagree with yiu about about a normal star fleet carrier flying in the face of canon and ip I will gladly take a caitian carrier, I just think these compromises people are trying to make will. Work like an escort with one hangar and consoles, either we get a full on carrier or we don't.
Not if the carrier was an escort hybrid with one hanger (instead of a cruiser or sci mix), it would be a little different then the KDF, and there is nothing wrong with giving the KDF a MVA vessel.
I take it you mean the Akira as it was designed but not implemented in the Shows?
Yes, that may be option they pursue when they build it. Only the Devs no for sure.
I take it you mean the Akira as it was designed but not implemented in the Shows?
Yes, that may be option they pursue when they build it. Only the Devs no for sure.
Not implemented may not be quite the term I'd use. It was never shown launching fighters, but it was shown to have six shuttle launch bays when the much larger Sovereign class only has two. I don't think the producers wrote out the carrier aspect so much as there just never was a need to show it launching fighters. It was not a hero ship, no heroes were fighter pilots so no need to put that on screen.
Not implemented may not be quite the term I'd use. It was never shown launching fighters, but it was shown to have six shuttle launch bays when the much larger Sovereign class only has two. I don't think the producers wrote out the carrier aspect so much as there just never was a need to show it launching fighters. It was not a hero ship, no heroes were fighter pilots so no need to put that on screen.
Hence the phrase, " as it was designed but not implemented in the shows" ?
I take it you mean the Akira as it was designed but not implemented in the Shows?
Yes, that may be option they pursue when they build it. Only the Devs no for sure.
I think the intended version might be a bit overpowered but a toned down one might be fun. Something like 4 front and 2 rear weapons with a fighter bay.
Daniels says that the Suliban are members of the federation in the future, after the conflict with them dies down, and after the federation gets founded. I don't remember the episode, katic's a lot better at that than I am. Maybe the memory alpha page on them will help, let me look.
Edit: Searched the memory-alpha page on them and it's not mentioned, but I know Daniels told Archer this while they were on the Enterprise-J, watching the battle against the Sphere-Builders.
Daniels says that the Suliban are members of the federation in the future, after the conflict with them dies down, and after the federation gets founded. I don't remember the episode, katic's a lot better at that than I am. Maybe the memory alpha page on them will help, let me look.
Edit: Searched the memory-alpha page on them and it's not mentioned, but I know Daniels told Archer this while they were on the Enterprise-J, watching the battle against the Sphere-Builders.
No, the ultimate disposition of the Suliban was never mentioned in Star Trek: Enterprise, probably because the series was cancelled, and there was not enough opportunity to expand upon everything ProfessorTrek 09:49, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
ProfessorTrek seems to disagree. Would you happen to have a citation, like an episode number/name and a time index? Or perhaps some other link which supports your stance of the Suliban being in the Federation?
Daniels says that the Suliban are members of the federation in the future, after the conflict with them dies down, and after the federation gets founded. I don't remember the episode, katic's a lot better at that than I am. Maybe the memory alpha page on them will help, let me look.
Edit: Searched the memory-alpha page on them and it's not mentioned, but I know Daniels told Archer this while they were on the Enterprise-J, watching the battle against the Sphere-Builders.
Daniels told Archer that the Xindi joined the Federation, not the Suliban.
I may have missed that in the discussion in regard to the Fed Carriers, but how would they play out? Given the general view of the Federation... it would be unlikely to see a Tac, Sci/Tac, or Eng/Tac Carrier...eh?
so yea, i just checked it, the suliban cell ships can go into warp.
but hey they are small enough to fit into an NX enterprise class ship in some ammount of numbers so why not make them a new set of fighters.
i would also love the tholian ships.....*gargles like homer*
on an unrelated note from an earlier discussion here on in.
there are ships with bigger interiors than exteriors in the future..about 900 years into the future.
Well, the suliban cell ships linked up to form larger structures. Idk, did they have multiple types, or just one ship they stuck together in various configurations?
I'm a bigger fan of shuttle carriers, if there has to be one. Type 11 shuttles ^.^ Plus, the carrier pilots of rthe KDF use BoP's anyway, not fighters.
Well, the suliban cell ships linked up to form larger structures. Idk, did they have multiple types, or just one ship they stuck together in various configurations?
I'm a bigger fan of shuttle carriers, if there has to be one. Type 11 shuttles ^.^ Plus, the carrier pilots of rthe KDF use BoP's anyway, not fighters.
correct me if im wrong but the KDF carriers can launch fighters or BoP's cant they?
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You want this in game?
The Typhon was delivered to it's operational theater by a Sovereign which is much larger than the Typhon.
It is a Activision game, you know that gaming company that is upset by the way the IP treated them. I do not see them relinquishing rights easily. Besides the "saucer" hides the Bussard collectors when looking at the craft nose on.
It is soft canon.
This game has the distinction of being the only continuation of the prime universe. Already it has been the touch stone of the newest iteration of the Enterprise. The further we step from canon the less impact STO will have on the prime universe. Just wanted to underscore what you really ask for when you step away from established canon to request a federation carrier.
well i wouldnt like that specifically but a fed carrier of another design would be great
Will it not make you happy to have access to a Catian Carrier? They are a member of the Federation, so are the Andorian and the Vulcans and well another fifty or so other races. Why MUST it be a Starfleet vessel when it flies in the face of canon and the IP of Star Trek?
So is this game.
Yes as a video game not a tv show.
Which means they may or may not use it if they do a tv show doesn't mean anything else from this game counts.
1) They are already using a lot of stuff from the books
2) Its a game its NOT CANON
A fun game that isn't obsessed with something only part of the fanbase actually care about
This appeases any CBS concerns and Genre slips over why the federation would have a carrier and delivers what the playerbase wants.
I hope they do not make a straight designed and built by the federation carrier.
If the Devs do that (especially from a soft canon source) then the KDF needs a MVA vessel (as soft canon supports it) becuase the cat will be out of the bag and the uniqueness of faction diversity in vessel will be completely undone.
Of course the game will just become red versus blue at that point. As long as it makes money though, right? :rolleyes:
We have these things in the real world, right now, called UAVs.
I'm confident that the creative engineers of Starfleet can come up with something clever and effective to suit the theatre of space exploration & combat.
Not if the carrier was an escort hybrid with one hanger (instead of a cruiser or sci mix), it would be a little different then the KDF, and there is nothing wrong with giving the KDF a MVA vessel.
I never said I would not be happy with a caitian carrier, I said fed carrier not standard star fleet design carrier, as caitians are a member of the federation as you stated, then it would still be a fed carrier, idc what race within the federation, although I disagree with yiu about about a normal star fleet carrier flying in the face of canon and ip I will gladly take a caitian carrier, I just think these compromises people are trying to make will. Work like an escort with one hangar and consoles, either we get a full on carrier or we don't.
I take it you mean the Akira as it was designed but not implemented in the Shows?
Yes, that may be option they pursue when they build it. Only the Devs no for sure.
Not implemented may not be quite the term I'd use. It was never shown launching fighters, but it was shown to have six shuttle launch bays when the much larger Sovereign class only has two. I don't think the producers wrote out the carrier aspect so much as there just never was a need to show it launching fighters. It was not a hero ship, no heroes were fighter pilots so no need to put that on screen.
Hence the phrase, " as it was designed but not implemented in the shows" ?
I think the intended version might be a bit overpowered but a toned down one might be fun. Something like 4 front and 2 rear weapons with a fighter bay.
Star Trek fans, or STO players? To be a player doesn't require them to be a fan.
I was thinking the Suliban ship would make a perfect MVA for the KDF.
Uhhhh.....says who?
yea please tell me how you came to that conclusion.
Edit: Searched the memory-alpha page on them and it's not mentioned, but I know Daniels told Archer this while they were on the Enterprise-J, watching the battle against the Sphere-Builders.
http://star-trek.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Did_the_Suliban_ever_join_the_Federation
Did the Suliban ever join the Federation?
No, the ultimate disposition of the Suliban was never mentioned in Star Trek: Enterprise, probably because the series was cancelled, and there was not enough opportunity to expand upon everything ProfessorTrek 09:49, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
ProfessorTrek seems to disagree. Would you happen to have a citation, like an episode number/name and a time index? Or perhaps some other link which supports your stance of the Suliban being in the Federation?
Daniels told Archer that the Xindi joined the Federation, not the Suliban.
oops, lmao
also did the cell ships have their own warp or did they use those large rectangular ships to carry them?
i know they were in warp bubbles but still they dont seem large enough to have their own warp field otherwise escape pods would be able to go to warp.
and is it also wrong to want this thread to mount 1000 posts?
Corsair Sci/Eng.
Marauder Eng/Sci.
Vo'Quv Sci.
Kar'Fi Sci...Sci/Tac.
I may have missed that in the discussion in regard to the Fed Carriers, but how would they play out? Given the general view of the Federation... it would be unlikely to see a Tac, Sci/Tac, or Eng/Tac Carrier...eh?
but hey they are small enough to fit into an NX enterprise class ship in some ammount of numbers so why not make them a new set of fighters.
i would also love the tholian ships.....*gargles like homer*
on an unrelated note from an earlier discussion here on in.
there are ships with bigger interiors than exteriors in the future..about 900 years into the future.
Well, the suliban cell ships linked up to form larger structures. Idk, did they have multiple types, or just one ship they stuck together in various configurations?
I'm a bigger fan of shuttle carriers, if there has to be one. Type 11 shuttles ^.^ Plus, the carrier pilots of rthe KDF use BoP's anyway, not fighters.
correct me if im wrong but the KDF carriers can launch fighters or BoP's cant they?
They can use either, but they tend to use the BoP's from what I've seen, instead of the fighters.