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I'm sensing a pattern recently.

With a cameo by the Reliant!
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    So its true after all.......this must and will be tested to see what happens.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Surely the Phaser Lance will be locked out to the bit you'll be piloting, it is on the Saucer after all and I duobt it'll know what to do with it, or even be able to use it at all.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Surely the Phaser Lance will be locked out to the bit you'll be piloting, it is on the Saucer after all and I duobt it'll know what to do with it, or even be able to use it at all.

    if its like AMS then both you and the Ai get a copy of it. Combo that with cloak....yeah this maybe a little broken lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Sweeettt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Surely the Phaser Lance will be locked out to the bit you'll be piloting, it is on the Saucer after all and I duobt it'll know what to do with it, or even be able to use it at all.

    Well, maybe they'll be letting you pilot the saucer? After all, wouldn't less hull and a slow turn rate be so much fun? And different than the Gal-R?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Kinda funny that an X can seperate at all considering the lance was attached to both the stardrive and saucer in a fixed way.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Destinii wrote:
    Well, maybe they'll be letting you pilot the saucer? After all, wouldn't less hull and a slow turn rate be so much fun? And different than the Gal-R?

    Yeah but that Phaser Lance is still connected to the secondary hull, not that I know for definate whether power for the lance comes from the secondary hull but I suspect it does.
    JToney3449 wrote: »
    Kinda funny that an X can seperate at all considering the lance was attached to both the stardrive and saucer in a fixed way.

    That too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Yeah but that Phaser Lance is still connected to the secondary hull, not that I know for definate whether power for the lance comes from the secondary hull but I suspect it does.

    There's obviously a subspace power conduit connecting the star drive to the lance. Duh.. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Surely the Phaser Lance will be locked out to the bit you'll be piloting, it is on the Saucer after all and I duobt it'll know what to do with it, or even be able to use it at all.

    the picture does clearly show the lance is still attached to the saucer.
    Most weapons don't funtion when they are disasembled.
    Besides, being detached from the warp core would reduce the damage seriously. It would have to fire off the Impulse engine power generators and batteries.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I tend to agree. There is no evidence in that shot that the lance is still in one piece. It could be completely disabled by the saucer separation. Even if it was, the lance has a 20 degree firing arc. Even the to the saucer, it's mostly useless.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm very much looking forward to this (though, deciding which console to drop for Saucer Sep will be anguishing).

    They don't ever mention in the show that the X can't separate thanks to the Lance; Cryptic said that as an effort at balance. It actually makes very little sense, from an in-universe perspective, to build a weapon that prevents you from using one of the more innovative aspects of a ship's design.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Now this will give some Fed players what they were wanting. DHCs on a heavy Cruiser without a horrendous turn rate.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    My suggestion of a slight bump to turnrates for carriers and cruisers doesnt look so bad now eh? lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    This raises an interesting thought. They had mentioned the desire for us to land shuttles. Would the Intrepid's ability to land be able to take the place of this?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    IMO the "lance" should stay attached to the front of the battle section's neck, protruding out when the saucer separates (maybe have a little groove on the underside of the saucer where the lance cradles in when the saucer reconnects). It would look a little like a Rhino/Unicorn/Narwhal when it separates, but again imo, that would make it even cooler.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Na, the Lance should stay at the bottom of the Saucer. Else it would look awkward sticking out far from the stardrive section.


    But if the G-X is now having Saucer Seperation Capability, makes me suspect the Galaxy-Refit's console is going to become useable on the G-X, and the Odyssey. Which would be smart business-wise, if they want such features, they need to buy the Galaxy-Refit.
    JToney3449 wrote: »
    Kinda funny that an X can seperate at all considering the lance was attached to both the stardrive and saucer in a fixed way.

    There is nothing in canon that says the lance was fixed the way you describe. Surely it would have detachment points to retain the Galaxy's saucer seperation capability.



    BTW, if Capn is working on the Dreadnaught. One request:

    Mind fixing the middle warp nacelle that it could match the others during customization? ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Something I was thinking before when talking about a separating Galaxy-X since you are getting the better turn rate from separation as well as the additional target... When the Saucer separates make the lance a one shot attack. The way I suggested was that the higher powered lance being charged by the warp core would be cut off but maybe have the one stored charge prior to separating. Once it uses that it works pretty well as the separated saucer on the normal Galaxy. If not a one shot maybe a longer recharge time to account for it not having the warp drive to supplement the recharge.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Very interesting, thanks for the information.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Great, now the Gal-R is REALLY useless :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I kind of would prefer to pilot the saucer. I think it would be more interesting. Also, if you're going to keep your standard weapon load out as per the Galaxy, the DHCs clearly are on the saucer. So if we can still use the DHCs when separated (which I assume we would) then it would make a lot more sense to be in control of the saucer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If this happens, I want the Photonic Torpedo Nose for the Defiant (off screen designer notes indicated that the "nose" of the defiant served as a last resort Multi-warhead photon torpedo device).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    If this happens, I want the Photonic Torpedo Nose for the Defiant (off screen designer notes indicated that the "nose" of the defiant served as a last resort Multi-warhead photon torpedo device).

    This. /10char
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If the Galaxy X gets to separate its Saucer it will be without a doubt one of the most powerful cruiser class ships in the game if not the most powerful. Whip out those DHC's and go to town!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    this is the single most stupid thing i have seen as far as ships are concerned.


    Oy, Cryptic:


    How about you start doing your research properly: The lance needs to be an effective, normal weapon to unleash on everything in your front arc while the beam arrays deal with other targets.


    The GX is not a cannon boat. was never depicted as one and sure as hell does not qualify.




    How about you simply give it an inbuild bonus to mitigate weapon power drain and remake the lance into a super powered single beam dual beam array.



    I pays you money for that if you give me.


    *sanchez*?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm sensing a pattern recently.

    With a cameo by the Reliant!

    I like how there is an Xbox Controller in the bottom left of the screen. Still no chance to bring this to console huh, Geko?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Lucky_13_X wrote:
    I like how there is an Xbox Controller in the bottom left of the screen. Still no chance to bring this to console huh, Geko?

    At this point probably not. My friend plays with an xbox controller though, he's not cool enough to use a keyboard/mouse *ducks* :p:p

    I saw this when it was posted and my eyes widdened. I do agree, this could very well change what ship I fly, as I've always wanted saucer sep on that thing :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If this is done by making the saucer separation module applicable to the Gal-X (and Odyssey) then it sets a great precedent; just like how the Venture class skin was applicable to the Gal-X.

    Would be nice if the same saucer separation module worked on the Prometheus too...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Walshicus wrote:
    If this is done by making the saucer separation module applicable to the Gal-X (and Odyssey) then it sets a great precedent; just like how the Venture class skin was applicable to the Gal-X.

    Would be nice if the same saucer separation module worked on the Prometheus too...

    Thats what the MVAM console does...

    (unrelated to quoted post):

    What people seem to forget all the time is that the Saucer Seperation on the galaxy is unrelated to the Multi Vector Assault mode on the Prommie.

    On the Galaxy, the seperation is designed as a huge lifeboat, a escape pod, for the saucer (hence it leaves the combat zone, or never even enters), and on the prommie it's designed to split the ship into 3 full functional combat segments.

    Sorry... on a sugar rush..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Askray wrote: »
    At this point probably not. My friend plays with an xbox controller though, he's not cool enough to use a keyboard/mouse *ducks* :p:p

    I saw this when it was posted and my eyes widdened. I do agree, this could very well change what ship I fly, as I've always wanted saucer sep on that thing :D

    First people wanted canon, now they want game balance. There's no pleasing you people! :rolleyes:

    Anyway, I don't think it is going to change what ship I fly. The G-X is still a paper cannon. Without its head, it'll just be a faster turning paper cannon but without cannons. Think about that for a moment, when the saucer separates, you should lose all canon weapons. You've effectively removed the very thing you need a faster turn rate for!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Surely the Phaser Lance will be locked out to the bit you'll be piloting, it is on the Saucer after all and I duobt it'll know what to do with it, or even be able to use it at all.

    Considering the Lance is directly connected to the Star Drives warp core, disconnecting the barrel along with the Saucer would effectively render it useless. BUT, this is all assuming they follow canon tech specs. And we all know how loosely they tend to dance around canon accuracy....
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