I noticed that ship still has two universal slots as well. As to be expected for a C-store variant but I also wonder if there's been any other changes based on the tribble feedback?
Saucer Sep is so tiresome. Instead making gimmicky ships how about making PvP meaningful and persistent? I don't need another ship feature. I need something to do with it.
Saucer Sep is so tiresome. Instead making gimmicky ships how about making PvP meaningful and persistent? I don't need another ship feature. I need something to do with it.
Because the guy who builds the ships doesn't handle PvP. That's not his job.
Even more importantly than all of that, can we get a costume design that makes the ship look like it does without the saucer? The Knife-Head Odyssey is wicked looking.
As a relevant FYI, Eaves worked out the Sovereign's separation when he designed the ship.
I'd be intrigued to know where the secondary hull impulse engines are stored. It'd seem odd that they'd be hidden behind any kind of hull plating that's for sure.
Well as I thought that second Universal was saved for the C-store model, and the Saucer Seperation looks pretty en par with the Sovereign's saucer seperation concept art.
But the thing that worries me is that the Odyssey is really a Pay to Win Ship, because its effectively a combination of all 4 T5 Cruisers:
The Firepower of an Attack Cruiser, the Survivability of a Star Cruiser, the Saucer Seperation of the Galaxy, plus the Tactical Capability of the Excelsior. So really the only people who want the old T5 ships are those who are fans.
IMHO, they should've reserved the Odyssey for a Tier 6 ship.
CapnLogan had said some time ago that the secondaries would be "under" the saucer, naturally "hidden" while connected.
Not sure until we can see more detail on the model, but there are Impulse manifolds in the warp pylons as well, which ends up being the predecessor to the Enterprise J's impulse engines in it's warp pylons.
I'd be intrigued to know where the secondary hull impulse engines are stored. It'd seem odd that they'd be hidden behind any kind of hull plating that's for sure.
The Sovereign's saucer seperation is meant for emergency seperation only, while the Galaxy is purposely designed for the Saucer to seperate to keep the civilians out of harms way.
Well as I thought that second Universal was saved for the C-store model, and the Saucer Seperation looks pretty en par with the Sovereign's saucer seperation concept art.
But the thing that worries me is that the Odyssey is really a Pay to Win Ship, because its effectively a combination of all 4 T5 Cruisers:
The Firepower of an Attack Cruiser, the Survivability of a Star Cruiser, the Saucer Seperation of the Galaxy, plus the Tactical Capability of the Excelsior. So really the only people who want the old T5 ships are those who are fans.
IMHO, they should've reserved the Odyssey for a Tier 6 ship.
Not sure until we can see more detail on the model, but there are Impulse manifolds in the warp pylons as well, which ends up being the predecessor to the Enterprise J's impulse engines in it's warp pylons.
The Sovereign's saucer seperation is meant for emergency seperation only, while the Galaxy is purposely designed for the Saucer to seperate to keep the civilians out of harms way.
The Odyssey maybe a Hybrid Combination of all 4 T5 ships but I'd hardly say effective or at least (as) effecitve.
It only has 2 Tac console slots, gains no passive buff to weapons dmg and turns like a Galaxy or worse. The only ship the Odyssey will completely put to pasture is the Galaxy-R since it's already an otherwise useless ship, potentially the Star Cruiser as well. She'll make for a great Engineering Captain ship, maybe even Science but Tacs should steer clear of it, imo.
I'd hardly call it a Pay To Win ship. That was the Jem Ha'daar and people payed BIG. With the console changes, not so much in the To Win part, anymore.
I'd be intrigued to know where the secondary hull impulse engines are stored. It'd seem odd that they'd be hidden behind any kind of hull plating that's for sure.
The Sovereign's saucer seperation is meant for emergency seperation only, while the Galaxy is purposely designed for the Saucer to seperate to keep the civilians out of harms way.
That's what I was thinking, much like the Constitution-class. It's sorta why I thought it was odd some had asked fro the Sovereign-class to also have separation in-game, the poor secondary hull would just sit there doing nothing.
The Odyssey maybe a Hybrid Combination of all 4 T5 ships but I'd hardly say effective or at least (as) effecitve.
It only has 2 Tac console slots, gains no passive buff to weapons dmg and turns like a Galaxy or worse. The only ship the Odyssey will completely put to pasture is the Galaxy-R since it's already an otherwise useless ship, potentially the Star Cruiser as well. She'll make for a great Engineering Captain ship, maybe even Science but Tacs should steer clear of it, imo.
I'd hardly call it a Pay To Win ship. That was the Jem Ha'daar and people payed BIG. With the console changes, not so much in the To Win part, anymore.
I still have great fun in my Gal-R. I wouldn't put it in the scrapyard just yet.....
I'd be willing to bet that the C-store version will be identical to the one we got in-game, but with a console for saucer seperation and the runabout/defiant ship
I'd be willing to bet that the C-store version will be identical to the one we got in-game, but with a console for saucer seperation and the runabout/defiant ship
The difference is the impulse engines on the Nebula-class were designed as part of the ships mission profile according to Sternbach, which was more stealth-like surveillance missions. The Sovereign on the other hand has two great big stonking impulse engines visible on her saucer, so why doesn't the secondary hull? Hell why are there even visible impulse grilles anymore on starships?
That's what I was thinking, much like the Constitution-class. It's sorta why I thought it was odd some had asked fro the Sovereign-class to also have separation in-game, the poor secondary hull would just sit there doing nothing.
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Man, I think it'd be hella swell if they eventually rejiggred the Sovvie to be saucer sep capable.
That's really cool - thanks.
/gently rubs c-store wallet
Because the guy who builds the ships doesn't handle PvP. That's not his job.
That is sooo wrong haha.
But yeah...here's your 2000cp console.
CapnLogan had said some time ago that the secondaries would be "under" the saucer, naturally "hidden" while connected.
I'd be intrigued to know where the secondary hull impulse engines are stored. It'd seem odd that they'd be hidden behind any kind of hull plating that's for sure.
You mean the Master Keys for the Cardassian Grabbag *cough* Lockbox?
But the thing that worries me is that the Odyssey is really a Pay to Win Ship, because its effectively a combination of all 4 T5 Cruisers:
The Firepower of an Attack Cruiser, the Survivability of a Star Cruiser, the Saucer Seperation of the Galaxy, plus the Tactical Capability of the Excelsior. So really the only people who want the old T5 ships are those who are fans.
IMHO, they should've reserved the Odyssey for a Tier 6 ship.
Not sure until we can see more detail on the model, but there are Impulse manifolds in the warp pylons as well, which ends up being the predecessor to the Enterprise J's impulse engines in it's warp pylons.
The Sovereign's saucer seperation is meant for emergency seperation only, while the Galaxy is purposely designed for the Saucer to seperate to keep the civilians out of harms way.
The Odyssey maybe a Hybrid Combination of all 4 T5 ships but I'd hardly say effective or at least (as) effecitve.
It only has 2 Tac console slots, gains no passive buff to weapons dmg and turns like a Galaxy or worse. The only ship the Odyssey will completely put to pasture is the Galaxy-R since it's already an otherwise useless ship, potentially the Star Cruiser as well. She'll make for a great Engineering Captain ship, maybe even Science but Tacs should steer clear of it, imo.
I'd hardly call it a Pay To Win ship. That was the Jem Ha'daar and people payed BIG. With the console changes, not so much in the To Win part, anymore.
Go find the impulse engines on a Nebula Class...
That's what I was thinking, much like the Constitution-class. It's sorta why I thought it was odd some had asked fro the Sovereign-class to also have separation in-game, the poor secondary hull would just sit there doing nothing.
I still have great fun in my Gal-R. I wouldn't put it in the scrapyard just yet.....
I hope this comes sooner rather than latter:)
The difference is the impulse engines on the Nebula-class were designed as part of the ships mission profile according to Sternbach, which was more stealth-like surveillance missions. The Sovereign on the other hand has two great big stonking impulse engines visible on her saucer, so why doesn't the secondary hull? Hell why are there even visible impulse grilles anymore on starships?
Is their Thrust ratio the same as the Saucer section, when seperated?
A Lt. universal is much more fitting.