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edited July 2013 in The Academy
Stuck in the arena fighting 3 angry dog things with a melee weapon.. I've died so often I have MULTIPLE major infuries and I'm doing no damage to them.

Who ever thought this quest was a good Idea should have been fired!!

The melee combat isn't implemented well enough for you to be able to rely on it.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    try bringing along regenerators and using them between respawns. also, there are healing plants around the arena that act like hypos. If nothing else works, lower the difficulty. I've gone through that mission multiple times just fine, it's one of the best ones in the game. Also, don't just button mash when you get close to them, there are attack combos that give your melee weapon attacks more damage (there's a page on STO wiki that details those for you.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The herb just seem to be part of the area.. they don't do anything.. not for me anyway.

    So I beamed out but when I try to continue it the main arena doors are closed so I have to do the whole thing again, including all the stupid running about doing arithmatic problem.

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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm going to have to go with Aces_High on this one. "Colisieum" is one of the more interesting missions as part of the Reman FE series. You should look for the herbs in the arena that are doing the same "glow" that other interactable objects do, and keep running. I've never been killed in this mission,
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The only time i've ever been killed on this mission is when they brought in the new health math, and the herbs weren't adjusted to match. I'm sure you'll manage.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Pwackadidl wrote: »
    Stuck in the arena fighting 3 angry dog things with a melee weapon.. I've died so often I have MULTIPLE major infuries and I'm doing no damage to them.

    Who ever thought this quest was a good Idea should have been fired!!

    The melee combat isn't implemented well enough for you to be able to rely on it.

    Bring some friends along.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Pwackadidl wrote: »

    The melee combat isn't implemented well enough for you to be able to rely on it.

    i sense a challenge..

    I think i'll make a new character next week, and proceed to run it up to admiral using only melee combat. as well as on my Boffs..

    the problem isnt with the game, its with your inability to use the mechanics everyone else is using. as a pointer, one of the most basic melee combo attacks can be created by pressing 1, 1, 2 with almost every melee weapon, including bare-handed. Frsutration is one thing, complaining about a mission that most people can complete with no problems is a little beyond that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    So there's supposed to be another prisoner in there with you?

    Didn't happen first time.. that's probably why I was having trouble with it.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Shingi wrote:
    i sense a challenge..

    I think i'll make a new character next week, and proceed to run it up to admiral using only melee combat. as well as on my Boffs..

    the problem isnt with the game, its with your inability to use the mechanics everyone else is using. as a pointer, one of the most basic melee combo attacks can be created by pressing 1, 1, 2 with almost every melee weapon, including bare-handed. Frsutration is one thing, complaining about a mission that most people can complete with no problems is a little beyond that.

    Challenge is one thing.. an annoyance is another.. I Guess people just have differeing view on challenge and annoying. Yes, if I put the time into read melee combo wikis then I dare say I'd be better myself... but why on god's green earth would I go looking for melee combos in a Star Trek game. The fact that they are there astonishes me... and I would NEVER have considered looking fo them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Pwackadidl wrote: »
    Challenge is one thing.. an annoyance is another.. I Guess people just have differeing view on challenge and annoying. Yes, if I put the time into read melee combo wikis then I dare say I'd be better myself... but why on god's green earth would I go looking for melee combos in a Star Trek game. The fact that they are there astonishes me... and I would NEVER have considered looking fo them.

    i've never read a melee combat wiki for STO in the 2+ years i've been here..

    and Melee combat has always been a part of Star Trek, Kirk got into a fist-fight roughly every 4 episodes, Riker was fond of physical violence, Worf had his combat programs, not to mention the entire Klingon species who have a love of knives, swords and close quarters combat in general.. Sisko punched out Q, Janeway ran about the decks with a combat knife...

    The Melee in this game includes PBAoE attacks, which makes life easier when facing multiple enemies, the herbs should be even eaiser to locate now that all interactables have a HUGE tag over them from a distance..

    and i'm also aware that Slamek (the emo romulan you're locked up with) sometimes glitches and doesnt come out the gates with you.. to make sure that doesnt happen let him lead the way out.

    in case you didnt alredy know, by the way, there's a KDF mission where you have to fight melee combat in a competition (the house always wins arc) as well, and later on, if you forget your remodulater against the borg, they dont adapt to melee combat, so you can still actually beat them.

    as i said, i can understand frustration when something comes up that you cant figure out right away, but calling for someone's job is a little over the top in my opinion. calm down, take in some of the advice here and give it another try with a cooler head :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Shingi wrote:
    i've never read a melee combat wiki for STO in the 2+ years i've been here..

    and Melee combat has always been a part of Star Trek, Kirk got into a fist-fight roughly every 4 episodes, Riker was fond of physical violence, Worf had his combat programs, not to mention the entire Klingon species who have a love of knives, swords and close quarters combat in general.. Sisko punched out Q, Janeway ran about the decks with a combat knife...

    The Melee in this game includes PBAoE attacks, which makes life easier when facing multiple enemies, the herbs should be even eaiser to locate now that all interactables have a HUGE tag over them from a distance..

    and i'm also aware that Slamek (the emo romulan you're locked up with) sometimes glitches and doesnt come out the gates with you.. to make sure that doesnt happen let him lead the way out.

    in case you didnt alredy know, by the way, there's a KDF mission where you have to fight melee combat in a competition (the house always wins arc) as well, and later on, if you forget your remodulater against the borg, they dont adapt to melee combat, so you can still actually beat them.

    as i said, i can understand frustration when something comes up that you cant figure out right away, but calling for someone's job is a little over the top in my opinion. calm down, take in some of the advice here and give it another try with a cooler head :)

    well as I said.. the herbs don't work and I didn't get the partner so I'm due my frustration when it doesn't work how it's supposed, to for me..

    And yes, when I restarted it I had no problems that time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Soloutions:


    Dont play on elite (you advised you were getting injured alot)

    take polyweave armour

    Tribble buff yourself just before it transports you from the satellite to the ground.

    Bring your own melee weapon so you dont have to use the standard ones on the racks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    In terms of melee combat, all of the melee weapons have combos which can do more damage than just hitting 1 or 2. Weach melee weapon has it's own set of combo move, but the attack sequiences are all the same.

    The following is a melee guide for Hand to Hand and Bat'leth. But the basics still apply.

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=97085&

    As I said the combo moves are a bit different from weapon to weapon. But their combat effects are similar (holds, stuns, Expose, Exploit, Cone attack, etc). Once you have the basic combo system down, I think your arena matches will be a lot easier.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Its actually a quite simple and super fun Episode. Ill explain,. Just know that if you are fighting the three "dogs" then you have only seen about 20% of the Episode or less. Soooo much more, you are gonna love it!!

    Now some tips...


    When you get your chance to pick a melee weapon, I suggest taking all 3 since thi is the ONLY way for your FED character to have melee weqapons, without pruchasing the melee weapon pack in C-store.

    Now, once you enter ARENA, there will be a bunch of different animals that will appear and attack you. This is what you do....


    Focus on the BIGGEST one. Once that one is gone, the smaller ones will go down easily(only some oft he fights have a big one)

    The key to fighting in melee is..... KNOCKDOWN!! thats your (3) ability (if set to default and you havent changed its binding)

    When you find yourself overwhelmed with 1 or 3 mobs, use that ability and theres a 50/50 chance that mob will be knocked down for 3-5 seconds. Use this time to escape and run away, where you will slowly heal if you get far enough or at least far enough away to heal.

    Also, all around the coliseum arena are small PLANTS, if you click them, they WILL HEAL YOU! SO whenevr you get to 40-50% go run to a croner and look for a plant to get healed. Then go back.

    Also, if you die, run back fast and the mobs will have same dmg u caused before you died yourself!

    FGood luckl!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    xaosmg wrote:
    When you get your chance to pick a melee weapon, I suggest taking all 3 since thi is the ONLY way for your FED character to have melee weqapons, without pruchasing the melee weapon pack in C-store.

    It's not the only way. Besides the exchange, where they're pretty cheap, you can also buy them at DS9, and I think there's ones in the Dilithium store as well, plus ones from the STF vendor.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm just LOLing at the amount of posts removed for breach of some term in a thread about Coliseum LOL
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I'm new to the game and I just did this mission last night. I had the problem of survivabilty in Normal mode. During the first waves of fighting the animals, I noticed my health was low and ran around in circles wondering what to do. I didn't realize there were herbs to refill your health until the worm fight. I don't think I saw any yellow indicators or I was busy worrying about the animals. The prisoner also didn't accompany me. I died 2 times and wondered how people could survive this mission. Your health doesn't heal back even if you try to outrun them.

    On the worm fight where you activate the 4 turrets, I think the yellow indicators bugged on me because I didn't see them, I just saw the console flash. I couldn't activate one of the consoles and had to go across to the other.

    On an unrelated note, I had problems with survivability in Cutting the Cord. The boss and his two gaurds quickly dispatched my reinforcements and I couldn't face 3 at once. It wasn't until I discovered an allied team nearby in which I kited the boss into.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    I am only assuming the worst when i see the breach of some term. Like uncontrollably insults and swearing. Makes for a good read...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Is there a way to recover Slamek? I need to help him with medicines but there's no Slamek on the map. I've tried to beam up and down without luck. GM Help is non-existence. So, is there a way around this mission?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Unkoala wrote:
    Is there a way to recover Slamek? I need to help him with medicines but there's no Slamek on the map. I've tried to beam up and down without luck. GM Help is non-existence. So, is there a way around this mission?

    if you've lost Slamek, you best bet may be to allow the mission instance to reset. Logout of the mission instance for 5+ minutes and not a second less. The mission instance will despawn. You can then re-enter the mission map at the last spawn point and Slamek should spawn with you. I'm assume you are in the desert stage just after the arena..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Pwackadidl wrote: »
    Stuck in the arena fighting 3 angry dog things with a melee weapon.. I've died so often I have MULTIPLE major infuries and I'm doing no damage to them.

    Who ever thought this quest was a good Idea should have been fired!!

    The melee combat isn't implemented well enough for you to be able to rely on it.
    This is going to sound really messed up, but I ran around in a circle hitting the 1 & 2 buttons on my keyboard like mad. It actually worked. they couldn't catch up with me and that bat'leth did some mighty damage.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Funnily; this is one of the very few missions I nearly rage quite on.

    But the even more funny/strange thing is that I like to melee fight on my Klingon character...:o

    and of course taking to borg with a melee weapon is hilarious...I swap out my minigun for a melee weapon :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Good work. 1 and 2 buttons randomly, no finesse? Sounds like a true Klingon warrior to me! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    As for the melee in this game it works fine for me but im running at 60 Frame/sec

    Many people i have noticed having melee combat issues are trying to play the Game at like 15-20FPS.
    it just dont work right.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    nail on the head carmenara :D

    master key masher here :p
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