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It's absurdly massive and based on the Star Cruiser bridge, just with a lot more open floor space and fewer consoles -- which emphasize the rediculous size.

I've said before and I'll say again, if they don't have time for a full scratchbuilt bridge, they should look at redressing the Prometheus bridge in tan with a patterned carpet and Sovereign-style chairs as it looks considerably more reasonable in scale. At the very least, they should add the Star Cruiser consoles and stations back in because at least the Star Cruiser bridge looks like it has reasons to be that big, with enough tasks to warrant the space. This just looks big and empty.

Here's my video preview:

http://youtu.be/LljlmA42OJU

I'm posting this here to encourage people to check out the ship on Tribble and post feedback in the threads there. I think this is a step back in the wrong direction as new interiors go and will become a pain whenever we have to visit the Enterprise-F.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I like the styling and the basic choice of architecture (the light edge on the re-imagined Ent-D tactical swoop console for example) but HOLY SIZE BATMAN it breaks down and looks FUGLY at that scale.

    This is most definitely a step in the worst possible direction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I like the styling and the basic choice of architecture (the light edge on the re-imagined Ent-D tactical swoop console for example) but HOLY SIZE BATMAN it breaks down and looks FUGLY at that scale.

    This is most definitely a step in the worst possible direction.

    I'd really like to see the new elements like the new tactical station there dropped into the shell of a Prometheus bridge.

    Also... Federation bridges have a lot of black, earth tones, and red/reddish brown accents in them. I think the reliance on blue for Feds and red for Klingons shows a lack of faith in the other core design elements to carry the message and oversimplifies the factions' designs while making Federation interiors look drab, cold, oversized, and empty.

    I agree about the new railing for the security station... But if they dropped that into the Prometheus bridge, dropped dark brown versions of those chairs in, and made the struts a cream or tan color, and tinkered with the lighting, they'd have a much cooler bridge.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    That's not a bridge that's a sports stadium. The captain would need to use the comm system just to talk to some of the bridge officers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I would love to see something closer to the concept bridge from Perpetual: http://www.deningart.com/gallery/concept_STO_BridgePS.html

    I think they actually copied those beams in the wall for a few bridges, but I want to see the whole bridge made into reality!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    that thing looks bloody awful. like you said if they don't have the time or inclination to do it right they should just reskin another bridge

    though I don't think the lack of time excuse is valid considering how long they had this thing in the works. didn't have that trouble with the constitution interior.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I like the bits added, but they seem to have taken out some of the clutter from the Unity bridge. I always liked the unity bridge, because it was busy enough that the size didn't seem so ridiculous, but I think they need to up it to 5-6 boffs of each type instead of 4, get rid of some of the empty spots. Taking out the pieces they did leaves some of the better parts of it wide open and empty, though.
    if they don't have the time or inclination to do it right they should just reskin another bridge

    They did, this is the Unity bridge with a couple bits added and a couple others taken out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Awful. Not just the size and empty space which imo should always be SMALL like in the shows. The whole blue scheme is really a turn off for me its like a hospital or somit. Needs warm colours at the very least not icy cold blues.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    That's not a bridge that's a sports stadium. The captain would need to use the comm system just to talk to some of the bridge officers.

    At least it doesn't look like a full size steel factory. Talk about overcompensation.

    Crew needs combadges just to communicate.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Felderburg wrote: »
    I would love to see something closer to the concept bridge from Perpetual: http://www.deningart.com/gallery/concept_STO_BridgePS.html

    I think they actually copied those beams in the wall for a few bridges, but I want to see the whole bridge made into reality!

    I totally agree, sadly, if we ever see this bridge it'll likely be on the C-Store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Felderburg wrote: »
    I would love to see something closer to the concept bridge from Perpetual: http://www.deningart.com/gallery/concept_STO_BridgePS.html

    I think they actually copied those beams in the wall for a few bridges, but I want to see the whole bridge made into reality!

    That's what I was hoping for too...

    But if they don't have time to scratch build that, I feel like they could kitbash something similar out of the Prometheus bridges, which are roughly that size and have a lot of those kinds of geometric features like the step down to the helm/conn stations.

    The Prometheus is the closest we have to that concept bridge and so I feel like they could at least capture the feel on the Prometheus by swapping out consoles/railing and doing a re-color.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I'll just use a different bridge, one that feels better.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    From what I'm getting, the bridge has a serious WIP feel to it. And I think that's what it is. It really looks unfinished to me. Like there's supposed to be more.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Last I heard wasn't the Odyssey on Tribble a "placeholder"? Unless that's been changed of course, as I haven't used Tribble in a long time.

    Sure wish I did for those special, unique Tribbles...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    krisslanza wrote: »
    Last I heard wasn't the Odyssey on Tribble a "placeholder"? Unless that's been changed of course, as I haven't used Tribble in a long time.

    Sure wish I did for those special, unique Tribbles...

    The exterior is a placeholder. The interior has the Odyssey MSD on the wall, which suggests it's more final.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Felderburg wrote: »
    I would love to see something closer to the concept bridge from Perpetual: http://www.deningart.com/gallery/concept_STO_BridgePS.html

    I think they actually copied those beams in the wall for a few bridges, but I want to see the whole bridge made into reality!

    Hey Cyrptic you want to make some money on the C-store? Then sell us this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    The exterior is a placeholder. The interior has the Odyssey MSD on the wall, which suggests it's more final.

    I'm not saying you're wrong, but for some reason, especially after watching that video, I wonder if it isn't a placeholder/WIP and that the final version that hits next week will be different - perhaps much different. (I seem to recall a dev saying that the Odyssey would have a normally scaled interior? Or am I just going crazy? Or both?)

    If that is the bridge they go with, either exactly or in a more detailed form... I'm probably going to use a different bridge, too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hey Cyrptic you want to make some money on the C-store? Then sell us this.

    i do love that bridge but it looks a bit tactical really from where the captains sitting. i like how on the star cruiser bridge the first officer and someone else (in TNG is was the councillor for some odd odd reason) sit either side of the captain.

    but i can see that being a good bridge for like the fleet escort
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I agree about the new railing for the security station... But if they dropped that into the Prometheus bridge, dropped dark brown versions of those chairs in, and made the struts a cream or tan color, and tinkered with the lighting, they'd have a much cooler bridge.

    They could also incorporate the viewscreen filling the space between the forward struts, and the idea of those swooping ceiling supports and very futuristic light columns at the sides.

    But heck yes this would look better on a Prometheus bridge with more 'Insurrection Enterprise Bridge' style lighting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    just looks like a kind of galaxy bridge to me, but blue. No big deal ;)

    besides, who ever goes to their bridge?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Zoot2 wrote:
    just looks like a kind of galaxy bridge to me, but blue. No big deal ;)

    besides, who ever goes to their bridge?

    *hand shoots up*

    I do!
    To do DOFFs and to queue for things, and whenever I need to swap to a small craft, and whenever I need to AFK.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Felderburg wrote: »
    I would love to see something closer to the concept bridge from Perpetual: http://www.deningart.com/gallery/concept_STO_BridgePS.html

    I think they actually copied those beams in the wall for a few bridges, but I want to see the whole bridge made into reality!

    The linked bridge is awesome. The existing Odyssey bridge is awful.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    They know everyone hates the gigantic bridges. That thing is a big as a opera house.

    They tried to use the excuse about the caves in CO. That doesn't fly in STO there isn't a lot of combat on bridges so it's not a issue.

    People want more realistic bridges and ship interiors on their ships. They either don't get it or don't really care. A good developer would find away to make it happen, instead of blaming the camera.

    The problem with people not liking the ginormous interiors isn't going away.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Words fail me for how awful this bridge is - I really, really hope it's just a placeholder - I had high hopes once the Constitution bridge was released that Cryptic would reign in the scale issues on these bridges (and why can't they? It's not like there's any content that takes place there?) but this is just absurd - how can anyone - anyone at Cryptic look at this bridge and think to themselves - yep - that works. :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    AegisPrime wrote: »
    Words fail me for how awful this bridge is - I really, really hope it's just a placeholder - I had high hopes once the Constitution bridge was released that Cryptic would reign in the scale issues on these bridges (and why can't they? It's not like there's any content that takes place there?) but this is just absurd - how can anyone - anyone at Cryptic look at this bridge and think to themselves - yep - that works. :eek:

    Hear hear! It's disapointing to see that if this is the real bridge, It's not even a new design, it's just a redress of current bridge.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    One would think by now (after almost two years worth of Us complaining), that They would have gotten the message that Their idea of a Good Bridge, IS NOT, what most of the Players consider a Good Bridge.

    It SEEMS like They Deliberately do The Exact Opposite, just because We said anything at all to begin with.

    It's a Starship Bridge..., NOT a Dang COLOSSEUM... Jim. :p

    (wouldn't surprise me in the least if this monstrosity was about the same size as the one in that mission.)

    :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    AegisPrime wrote: »
    Words fail me for how awful this bridge is - I really, really hope it's just a placeholder - I had high hopes once the Constitution bridge was released that Cryptic would reign in the scale issues on these bridges (and why can't they? It's not like there's any content that takes place there?) but this is just absurd - how can anyone - anyone at Cryptic look at this bridge and think to themselves - yep - that works. :eek:

    Lol, we're going to have to install those moving sidewalks we have at big airports.

    On a more serious note, yeah, I do agree that the bridge is way too big. However, it won't be a big deal for me until there are more mini-games that make visiting the bridge worthwhile.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    It's absurdly massive and based on the Star Cruiser bridge, just with a lot more open floor space and fewer consoles -- which emphasize the rediculous size.

    I've said before and I'll say again, if they don't have time for a full scratchbuilt bridge, they should look at redressing the Prometheus bridge in tan with a patterned carpet and Sovereign-style chairs as it looks considerably more reasonable in scale. At the very least, they should add the Star Cruiser consoles and stations back in because at least the Star Cruiser bridge looks like it has reasons to be that big, with enough tasks to warrant the space. This just looks big and empty.

    Here's my video preview:

    http://youtu.be/LljlmA42OJU

    I'm posting this here to encourage people to check out the ship on Tribble and post feedback in the threads there. I think this is a step back in the wrong direction as new interiors go and will become a pain whenever we have to visit the Enterprise-F.

    Looks only slightly smaller than Congress. Does it take as many to staff? :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Zoot2 wrote:
    just looks like a kind of galaxy bridge to me, but blue. No big deal ;)

    besides, who ever goes to their bridge?

    I do to yell at my BOs and to switch to my shuttle.
    Englebert wrote:
    They tried to use the excuse about the caves in CO.

    Wait people complain that a superheroes secret hideout is TOO big? :confused:

    Have these people never picked up a Batman comic or a Superman comic. Their suppost to be the big to hold all their stiuff.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    AegisPrime wrote: »
    Words fail me for how awful this bridge is - I really, really hope it's just a placeholder - I had high hopes once the Constitution bridge was released that Cryptic would reign in the scale issues on these bridges (and why can't they? It's not like there's any content that takes place there?) but this is just absurd - how can anyone - anyone at Cryptic look at this bridge and think to themselves - yep - that works. :eek:

    I was thinking the exact same thing. The Constitution bridge was awesome. In fact, the whole interior is awesome.

    This "new" bridge.... -__-
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Bridge has to be that big for the captains ego :p

    I kid I kid

    Yep, bridge is waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too big, pretty ridiculous
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