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can anyone explain why before the upgrades, we were known as the space wolves..

abide a small fleet of friends but we had a Fed side and a Klink side... simple knowen as the 'sons of Russ'

why now have we had to defivine ourselves spacewolves b & spacewolves c///:mad:

Why?

we are a warhammer 40K fellowship...

who owns spacewolves (A)

because us other wolves would like to meet them..

Khan
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Forgive me for maybe being a bit dense here, but. . . what are you talking about?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Rivyn13 wrote:
    Forgive me for maybe being a bit dense here, but. . . what are you talking about?

    I thought it was just me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    1min we are the space wolves and the next we are space wolves b and c and just want 2 know why.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    warhammer 40k is apart from STO so we set up a fleet (15) etc based on the warhammer 40k theam.

    hence 'space wolves'

    now before the update we.. us feds/klinks played and fought together as friends..

    now there is a..

    spacewolves ?
    spacewolves b.
    spacewolves c.

    all i'm asking is who now owns spacewolves A..?

    because we would both as feds and klink love to bast the TRIBBLE out off them for the name.

    we are the spacewolves visiting STO so wish to avoid in any form.

    www,spacewolves.org we are a friendly fleet but if someone has stolen our name...

    Khan
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Probably because someone else was named Spacewolves before you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    nop because I formed it with other friends of mine...

    you know what friends are mr Jex..?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    The fact that you formed the Fleet does not mean that someone else you don't know didn't also form a Fleet with the same name before you - possibly anohter WK 40k fan.

    And being condescending to others on the forum will only get you an Infraction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    The only possible way for you to be "Spacewolves C" or whatever you are now, is if two other fleets formed before yours were named Spacewolves. The fleet name system didn't used to restrict duplicate fleet names. That was changed recently. The first fleet with that name will keep it unaltered. The next fleet that used it would be Spacewolves A, and the next one would be Spaceowolves B, and so on and so forth.

    You weren't the first fleet in STO to use that name.

    EDIT: If I recall correctly, you should have the option to change your fleet name.

    You don't have to drop Spacewolves if you don't want to. For example, you can call yourselves "Spacewolves Fleet" or "The Original Spacewolves" or "Federation Spacewolves" or even "The Spacewolves". You just can't be "Spacewolves" by itself anymore.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    forgiveness cosmic and others if i insulted, that was not my intention..

    but speaking free words and asking who has 'space wolve a' causes this much derision, and asking who owns it it over us, when it was set up ages ago, beggers the question..?

    who owns A.

    simple as that!!

    And I can promise you this.. the SW name is an IP infringment..

    and gess who works for GW and has permission...:rolleyes:

    Khan.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I'll tell you right now, pursuing legal action over a name would be a major waste of time and resources, and depending on the country or countries of origin, could be an even bigger hassle. I'm pretty sure at least States-side, there's fair use laws that protect the current "owners" of Spacewolves A. Since they aren't making money, you basically have very little case...

    And, hey, look at it this way. If there's enough fans of Warhammer 40K out there to use Spacewolves at least three times, that just means the game is doing well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Jexsam wrote: »
    Probably because someone else was named Spacewolves before you.
    nop because I formed it with other friends of mine...

    you know what friends are mr Jex..?

    He is right... Another fleet had that name before you, and because of this, your fleet was assigned another letter to the fleet name.

    Happend with a recent patch, and I am sorry to say that being rude isn't gonna change that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    but speaking free words and asking who has 'space wolve a' causes this much derision, and asking who owns it it over us, when it was set up ages ago, beggers the question..?
    The only issue I had was your statement: "you know what friends are mr Jex..?" That seemed like a rude thing to say to me - though you might not have meant it as such.

    The simple truth is you'll never know who owns A unless they happen to see this post and want to reply to you.

    It's also quite possible that the person came up with the name him/herself and never heard of GW 40k. And it wouldn't be an IP infringement. People don't own words. At best you can claim a Trademark infringement - assuming you filed a TM on "Space Wolves" and you can prove in court that their use of the name is intentionally causing you harm. It's sort of like how both Marvel and DC comics have a character called Captain Marvel, but since Marvel holds the Trademark and DC cannot use that name on the cover of any of its books.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    no responce.

    who now has the spacewolves 'a name?'
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    wrote:
    no responce.

    who now has the spacewolves 'a name?'
    Again, the only people who knows are the ones in that Fleet. There's no master Fleet list anywhere that you can check against.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Instead of asking on the forums who runs a particular fleet, since the chance of finding out who barring a well known fleet, is rather slim. The fleet in question may or may not even be active anymore, may or may not be well established, and/or may just be around on a casual basis. Simply follow the suggestions stated before and rename your fleet with something other then spacewolves.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    mr R and others

    before yopur jump on me as some kind off twit, I fought with anumber of other fleets, GI and SI.

    pvp/pve done it with them.

    and I learn't alot, but when i left from both to form the spacewolves, none of them regrected..

    and this was ages ago.

    anyone flying with spacewolves tags a...

    are open hunting...

    Khan.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    mr R and others

    before yopur jump on me as some kind off twit, I fought with anumber of other fleets, GI and SI.

    pvp/pve done it with them.

    and I learn't alot, but when i left from both to form the spacewolves, none of them regrected..

    and this was ages ago.

    anyone flying with spacewolves tags a...

    are open hunting...

    Khan.

    What are you trying to get across? that you wish to tackle fleets with similar fleet names as yours?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    mr R and others

    before yopur jump on me as some kind off twit, I fought with anumber of other fleets, GI and SI.

    pvp/pve done it with them.

    and I learn't alot, but when i left from both to form the spacewolves, none of them regrected..

    and this was ages ago.

    anyone flying with spacewolves tags a...

    are open hunting...

    Khan.

    Lol. This isn't EVE. Threatening to hunt someone down is pretty hollow on STO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    gentlmen and all..

    forgive me if what seems like and out burst..

    but i will protect the spacewolves, and the ex while i was gone.

    we have the spacewolves name..

    simple as //

    who is Sven?

    don't u luv the wolves.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    im going to take a leap here and guess that your trolling arntcha
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Rivyn13 wrote:
    im going to take a leap here and guess that your trolling arntcha

    That or he's a 12 years old furryfan of some sort.

    Seriously, OP, you don't get anthing out of your behaviour. Someone took the name before you. It's a first come first served basis. There are either other 40k fans out there or just other kids think tagging "wolves" on everything is cool. Just rename your fleet and live with it. Maybe "Space Sheep". That would be cooler, anyway :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    May I interject a couple of logic points?
    all i'm asking is who now owns spacewolves A..?

    because we would both as feds and klink love to bast the TRIBBLE out off them for the name.
    no responce.

    who now has the spacewolves 'a name?'

    Of course whoever it is isn't going to tell you. And I really doubt any of their friends are going to tell you. And it's a good bet several members of the community aren't going to tell you just for that beat the TRIBBLE out of them comment.
    And I can promise you this.. the SW name is an IP infringment..

    I'm sorry, no it isn't. Wolves are one of the most popular wild animals on the planet for their loner nature, and ability to work as a pack. And this is a space game. To find a fleet/guild named Space Wolves/Wolves in Space/Wolf Space/add any number of combinations, is not all that uncommon. The only way you could enforce a copyright on that is if you could prove they intentionally stole your name from you, knowing it was yours. But as it stands, there are just too many people who like space and wolves(the animal).

    If it stops this whole charade, I own the Spacewolves A name. Have at me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    gentlmen and all..

    forgive me if what seems like and out burst..

    but i will protect the spacewolves, and the ex while i was gone.

    we have the spacewolves name..

    simple as //

    who is Sven?

    don't u luv the wolves.

    I am the Space Wolves A fleet.

    Now, I ask of you, Khan, why would a Space Wolf take the name with Khan in it? Are you really a White Scar in disguise?? Because a White Scar has no rights to the name.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Rivyn13 wrote:
    What are you trying to get across? that you wish to tackle fleets with similar fleet names as yours?

    A noble quest indeed. I am thinking that the fleet you will be looking for will not be the 'Spacewolves A' they will be the one and true Spacewolves because they got in there before you ;)

    How about a compromise and call your STO fleet the Space Bunnies? The rabbit is also a marvellous creature that sometimes changes the coulour of its fur in the winter.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    How about a compromise and call your STO fleet the Space Bunnies? The rabbit is also a marvellous creature that sometimes changes the coulour of its fur in the winter.

    Not quite as special when you realize that some wolves do this as well, I think some foxes as well. Couple of cats do it, think a few mice do too. In fact, I think almost every creature that lives far enough north that has fur does this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Not quite as special when you realize that some wolves do this as well, I think some foxes as well. Couple of cats do it, think a few mice do too. In fact, I think almost every creature that lives far enough north that has fur does this.

    True but one of the most interesting aspects of a rabbit's body is his digestive system. Unlike a cat or dog, rabbits can eat a wide variety of plant material. They can process and extract nutrients from many plants that are indigestible to less adaptable herbivores or omnivores. This ability helps make rabbits highly successful in a variety of environments around the world. Understanding how your rabbit's digestive system functions is important so that you can feed him in a way that's most efficient for his body.

    Or so I am told...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Yar, this is very much true. And seriously, calling yourself the Space Bunnies would have the added benefit of throwing your opponent off guard.

    "Aww look, how cute. The bunnies are coming for... Oh god! My leg! Get it off get it off! It's eating right through my armor!"

    Sorry, Monty Python moment there.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I thought we actually cleared things up..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    <makes popcorn, smiles>
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