900 Days
FREE exclusive starship material that give veteran starships a unique look.
Is this the "Material 6" which is currently on some of the +1 ships as well as the upcoming Odyssey Class (Ent-F) ? I think it's the wrong way to go, if you intend to start making "special textures" only available to Veterans. Especially if that texture is "Material 6" which makes ALL ships look alot more canon (such as the leaked Intrepid pics that CapnLogan posted a while back).
The next year's worth of bonuses look so sweet. I'm so curious what class of Android this will be... Soong-type or one of the more primitive ones we've seen. And as far as the 1k Ship... you've really got my attention now.
I'd also have hoped that they would have gone back and spiced up the earlier vet-rewards to make subscription even remotely worth considering.
I think it should be clear by now that bringing in new subscriptions is not a goal. The only reason there are gold accounts and silver accounts in free to play is because they had lifetime subs.
You look at the matrix "Why bother subbing?" well that is because they don't want you to sub. You are more likely to spend 20 or 30 bucks in the C-Store if you don't have to worry about paying a sub at the end of the month.
The average sub in an MMO is active for about a year. But if you don't have a sub and have spent money to buy things you have reason to keep coming back. And paying more for other stuff in the store.
So an Android, Starship Material, and Exclusive Ship Type. Those are some pretty big and awesome promises. I hope you can hold to them.
With the Android, make sure there's one of each type (Tac, Engy, Sci), also, each gender as well. With the ship, you're going to have to do something unique, cause not everybody will want an Escort, Cruiser, Science, BoP, or Carrier.
900 Days
FREE exclusive starship material that give veteran starships a unique look.
Is this the "Material 6" which is currently on some of the +1 ships as well as the upcoming Odyssey Class (Ent-F) ? I think it's the wrong way to go, if you intend to start making "special textures" only available to Veterans. Especially if that texture is "Material 6" which makes ALL ships look alot more canon (such as the leaked Intrepid pics that CapnLogan posted a while back).
Would love some clarification on this part.
Even more of a reason to subscribe. Veteran rewards are one of the few perks that Gold members have. It may take nearly 2.5 years to get it, but hey, most of us are nearly there, and it gives new F2Pers a reason to subscribe if they really want the material (a very small insignificant reason, and few will probably subscribe solely for the material, but perhaps all the veteran rewards together will help sell subs)... glad I'm lifetime
I am in full support of ALL the stated rewards, and am particularly interested in more info on the Android BOff, the unique uniform, and unique ship (hoping the varient is more than just another shuttle) :-D
Taking the VA token only to put it in a slot where currency used to be doesn't sit well. I'd have a hunk of dilithium put in there instead, and the VA tokens either added back into the game, or put in a 'low' Veterancy like 100.
In addition to the above, we are adding something new to the 600 day reward. We removed some free Emblems from the 600 day reward recently because we knew we were removing Emblems from the game economy. We are replacing this part of the award with a free Vice Admiral Starship Token.
First: wasn't this going to the 500 day reward? I though it was the 500 day that had the emblems removed. Also, you are not replacing the emblems with tha VA token. You are just giving back something that shoudn't never be taken, and making it take longer to get it. So, you still have to compensate the 250 emblem (or 250 emblems times 480 dilithium/emblem = 120k dilithium) somehow. My sugestion: to avoid the case were a person would mass create characters and auction the dilithium for CP, make the reward be unlocked only when the character hit level cap. You may even create a funny mission to award it. I may imagine one where you intercept a ferengi smuggling dilithium for the klingons, and starffleet let you stay with the cargo as a reward for the mission.
About the other awards: full of win. Really liked it. One question: the mugato pet will be a combat pet? If it is a combat pet, this gets even better. But all this is good. Really, really liked it.
I agree with others obviously...
All the rewards sound very cool, I look forward to them, but...
The replacement for the 250 Emblems is Oh so lame...
I think an equivilent amount of Dilithium at the very least would be more appropriate.
You took away currency, currency should replace it.
All MHPO, of course.
Will the "New Vice Admiral/LG Tiken" purchase the Galaxy-X a nd Garumba? Since they are now VA/LG ships on Tribble.
I also have the same doubt. I'm counting as a no, since the impression is that they are only giving back what we already have. But I'd like to know for sure also.
Im not OK with the 500 day emblems replacement, i think it is just UNFAIR.
For now, emblems are still a currency on holodeck, a bunch of player received them, use them to buy purple items or keep them and they will be converted to dilithium.
Until f2p is ion holodeck all player who have reach 500 SHOULD have been reward by the SAME reward !
I dont want your VA token, first i have all the ships i want, 2 i think its not equal to 250 emblems in term of gameplay...
So please revise your copy, stop stealing people, it is not our fault if you have decide to take wrong directions before F2P.
1) The 250 Emblems were taken away from the 500 Day Veteran Reward, not the 600 Day Vet Reward.
2) Recent Release Notes said the VA token is added to the 500 Day, not the 600 Day Vet Reward. Can we have some clarifcation on this?
3) BOOOO!!! :mad: to Cryptic for taking away something awesome and replacing it with something else they also took away. Subtracting two game features and then giving one of them back in a gimped fashion, is just not cool, no matter how you spin it.
5) Is the 700 Day Android BO going to be that BO? If so, please make it have the following features:
Allow player to select the class and gender.
Make sure at least one of the traits is Efficient.
Clothing/appearance can be modified as per any other regular BO.
6) Mugatu pet, uniforms, starship materials, and a starship variant? All sound nice. However, with the way you guys are treating your players (example, see #3 above), I'm not sure I'll even be around in 380 more days...
I agree with the other peoples sentiments of "its good to have the VA token back, but it is not a replacement for the 250 emblems" This just hurts the people who never got the 250 emblems and are currently VA : |
Totally unrelated note - why does your forum avatar have glowie *****? I don't dislike them (or ***** in general) just seems odd that they glow. Step away from the reactor.
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EDIT: Nevermind....
800 day - free magutu pet - nice. Would rather it came with the hot native chick from that episode...
EDIT: BOff question regarding the Android; branch and gender of choice? Fully customizable?
Otherwise, good info. Thanks.
Z
Is it a separate class?
A Separate costume for a specific class or classes?
*holding hopes that the unique uniform is the 29th century Relativity uniform and that the ship is the relativity*
Stupid question. Will KDF get a Klingon Android?
I told you it was a stupid question.
Okay, time for some "rage":
900 Days
FREE exclusive starship material that give veteran starships a unique look.
Is this the "Material 6" which is currently on some of the +1 ships as well as the upcoming Odyssey Class (Ent-F) ? I think it's the wrong way to go, if you intend to start making "special textures" only available to Veterans. Especially if that texture is "Material 6" which makes ALL ships look alot more canon (such as the leaked Intrepid pics that CapnLogan posted a while back).
Would love some clarification on this part.
VA token should have been an addition to a replacement, seeing as all those who got their 250 emblems already had their VA tokens too.
(500 days is also an extremely long time for subscribers to get a free VA token, by then $250 would have already been sunk into this game)
I'd also have hoped that they would have gone back and spiced up the earlier vet-rewards to make subscription even remotely worth considering.
The next year's worth of bonuses look so sweet. I'm so curious what class of Android this will be... Soong-type or one of the more primitive ones we've seen. And as far as the 1k Ship... you've really got my attention now.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I think it should be clear by now that bringing in new subscriptions is not a goal. The only reason there are gold accounts and silver accounts in free to play is because they had lifetime subs.
You look at the matrix "Why bother subbing?" well that is because they don't want you to sub. You are more likely to spend 20 or 30 bucks in the C-Store if you don't have to worry about paying a sub at the end of the month.
The average sub in an MMO is active for about a year. But if you don't have a sub and have spent money to buy things you have reason to keep coming back. And paying more for other stuff in the store.
With the Android, make sure there's one of each type (Tac, Engy, Sci), also, each gender as well. With the ship, you're going to have to do something unique, cause not everybody will want an Escort, Cruiser, Science, BoP, or Carrier.
Even more of a reason to subscribe. Veteran rewards are one of the few perks that Gold members have. It may take nearly 2.5 years to get it, but hey, most of us are nearly there, and it gives new F2Pers a reason to subscribe if they really want the material (a very small insignificant reason, and few will probably subscribe solely for the material, but perhaps all the veteran rewards together will help sell subs)... glad I'm lifetime
I am in full support of ALL the stated rewards, and am particularly interested in more info on the Android BOff, the unique uniform, and unique ship (hoping the varient is more than just another shuttle) :-D
First: wasn't this going to the 500 day reward? I though it was the 500 day that had the emblems removed. Also, you are not replacing the emblems with tha VA token. You are just giving back something that shoudn't never be taken, and making it take longer to get it. So, you still have to compensate the 250 emblem (or 250 emblems times 480 dilithium/emblem = 120k dilithium) somehow. My sugestion: to avoid the case were a person would mass create characters and auction the dilithium for CP, make the reward be unlocked only when the character hit level cap. You may even create a funny mission to award it. I may imagine one where you intercept a ferengi smuggling dilithium for the klingons, and starffleet let you stay with the cargo as a reward for the mission.
About the other awards: full of win. Really liked it. One question: the mugato pet will be a combat pet? If it is a combat pet, this gets even better. But all this is good. Really, really liked it.
All the rewards sound very cool, I look forward to them, but...
The replacement for the 250 Emblems is Oh so lame...
I think an equivilent amount of Dilithium at the very least would be more appropriate.
You took away currency, currency should replace it.
All MHPO, of course.
Especially the customizable part. Please don't make the sames mistakes made on the Breen, Reman, and Photonic BOffs.
I have a friend that was FIVE days away from 500 days when they pulled the 250 emblems.
He already is AT Vice-Admiral and has had his token.
What does the mean? .... HE GETS NOTHING!
Same for all those like him.
I love the other rewards forthcoming ,but this switch for the 500 days is UNFAIR to those like my friend.
Cryptic ... not cool! ... NOT COOL AT ALL!!!!
If you want my respect .... Make this right.
Do right by these players that have been loyal to you.
I also have the same doubt. I'm counting as a no, since the impression is that they are only giving back what we already have. But I'd like to know for sure also.
For now, emblems are still a currency on holodeck, a bunch of player received them, use them to buy purple items or keep them and they will be converted to dilithium.
Until f2p is ion holodeck all player who have reach 500 SHOULD have been reward by the SAME reward !
I dont want your VA token, first i have all the ships i want, 2 i think its not equal to 250 emblems in term of gameplay...
So please revise your copy, stop stealing people, it is not our fault if you have decide to take wrong directions before F2P.
sry for my english it is not my native speaking.
2) Recent Release Notes said the VA token is added to the 500 Day, not the 600 Day Vet Reward. Can we have some clarifcation on this?
3) BOOOO!!! :mad: to Cryptic for taking away something awesome and replacing it with something else they also took away. Subtracting two game features and then giving one of them back in a gimped fashion, is just not cool, no matter how you spin it.
4) So does this mean the "Veteran BO" that jheinig was talking about replacing the 500 Day Vet Reward nerf (the 250 Emblems) is not going to happen?
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3796966
5) Is the 700 Day Android BO going to be that BO? If so, please make it have the following features:
Make sure at least one of the traits is Efficient.
Clothing/appearance can be modified as per any other regular BO.
6) Mugatu pet, uniforms, starship materials, and a starship variant? All sound nice. However, with the way you guys are treating your players (example, see #3 above), I'm not sure I'll even be around in 380 more days...
Totally unrelated note - why does your forum avatar have glowie *****? I don't dislike them (or ***** in general) just seems odd that they glow. Step away from the reactor.