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i'm sick of testing things on tribble that don't work properly and it just means i neglect my holodeck toons that really matter.

Don't get me wrong i'm exceited for some of the changes (Doff system) but scared of others (dilithium+Crafting, VA ships)

Maybe these changes sould be alittle more complete for proper testing, and not just "here try this, its all we have right now" then we all complain about it and are told "this is not the way the final version is going to be" but we are not told what this will be, the details have been vauge at best.

again don't get me wrong here, i have enjoyed testing for the most part, dispite all the bugs and stuff. I just think i'm done testing until a more final version is out. it just feels futile right now.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    can I haxxors your stuff?

    or whatever people say.


    I quit threads are not allowed, even on the testing server.
    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Staran wrote: »
    can I haxxors your stuff?

    or whatever people say.


    I quit threads are not allowed, even on the testing server.
    :cool:

    He's not saying he's quitting the game. He's simply saying he is sick of testing and he's not going to do it anymore.

    I agree with him.

    Having these damn Testing Rewards tied to grinding up a character on each side with totally messed up and broken game play through a lot of it is not fun. My Fed finally reached VA last night and my Klingon is now a Captain. I've still got a long way to grind if I want the Klingon side title and I'm sick of it really. I want to get back to my regular characters, but I feel compelled to finish off my Klingon just to get the rewards.

    Guess how much testing of the STFs and end game content I'm going to do. Yeah, none.

    So far this whole testing process has been entirely grabastic and lame. If not for the DOff system it wouldn't be any fun at all.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    He's not saying he's quitting the game. He's simply saying he is sick of testing and he's not going to do it anymore.

    I agree with him.

    Having these damn Testing Rewards tied to grinding up a character on each side with totally messed up and broken game play through a lot of it is not fun. My Fed finally reached VA last night and my Klingon is now a Captain. I've still got a long way to grind if I want the Klingon side title and I'm sick of it really. I want to get back to my regular characters, but I feel compelled to finish off my Klingon just to get the rewards.

    Guess how much testing of the STFs and end game content I'm going to do. Yeah, none.

    So far this whole testing process has been entirely grabastic and lame. If not for the DOff system it wouldn't be any fun at all.


    :cool:
    He quit testing. It is an Iquit thread!
    I agree, it iisn't fun.
    But there is nothing to do on Holodeck. I imported my main over to tribble and have 50 days of refining to do to get rid of my backlog.
    I am not going to increase it by even moving a muscle with that character.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Here I was, thinking the main reason I've been spending time on Tribble was to thoroughly test everything and thoroughly document bugs and other problems with the implementation, to help enable the devs to get the game in the best condition possible before pushing any new features to the actual play server.

    Every bug I find and accurately report is a better reward to me than any in-game reward I'll get later on Holodeck, and if you feel otherwise, yes, you probably aren't the sort of player who is doing any good by playing on a test server.

    The point isn't necessarily to have fun now, it is to find all the problems and give constructive feedback so that everyone can have fun with the game when these changes go live. Coincidentally, some of us find it intrinsically fun to search for and find bugs. It's like an Exploration meta-game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    modernevil wrote:
    Here I was, thinking the main reason I've been spending time on Tribble was to thoroughly test everything and thoroughly document bugs and other problems with the implementation, to help enable the devs to get the game in the best condition possible before pushing any new features to the actual play server.

    Every bug I find and accurately report is a better reward to me than any in-game reward I'll get later on Holodeck, and if you feel otherwise, yes, you probably aren't the sort of player who is doing any good by playing on a test server.

    The point isn't necessarily to have fun now, it is to find all the problems and give constructive feedback so that everyone can have fun with the game when these changes go live. Coincidentally, some of us find it intrinsically fun to search for and find bugs. It's like an Exploration meta-game.

    Hey, you want to come work for me? It'll only cost you $20/hour. You can debug all of my software issues. I'll even get you a nice chair....

    On a serious note, I still fail to see why we are paying subscription fees to test a F2P game. And don't use the argument that we don't have to test the F2P. Currently this is the only server getting content updates.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    He's not saying he's quitting the game. He's simply saying he is sick of testing and he's not going to do it anymore.

    I agree with him.

    Having these damn Testing Rewards tied to grinding up a character on each side with totally messed up and broken game play through a lot of it is not fun. My Fed finally reached VA last night and my Klingon is now a Captain. I've still got a long way to grind if I want the Klingon side title and I'm sick of it really. I want to get back to my regular characters, but I feel compelled to finish off my Klingon just to get the rewards.

    Guess how much testing of the STFs and end game content I'm going to do. Yeah, none.

    So far this whole testing process has been entirely grabastic and lame. If not for the DOff system it wouldn't be any fun at all.


    :cool:

    thanks man, that sums up what i said nicly, glad to c i'm not the only one who feels this way.

    i'm not quiting.... just going to wait and test what will really be realesed on holodeck. playing tribble like it is now is just depressing, so let me know when its all working the way it should and i will be happy to continue testing, until then i will be on holodeck grinding out emblems and merits so i get some dilithium for when all this goes live.

    an update or event or episode replay for holodeck would be nice, it has gone stale

    happy testing everyone
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    On a serious note, I still fail to see why we are paying subscription fees to test a F2P game. And don't use the argument that we don't have to test the F2P. Currently this is the only server getting content updates.

    Unless you count the new space pet.... Hey A LOT of work went into making it, they actually the marketing team, art team, dev team, website team, all working together on this!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Oh yea, I forgot about that. Thank you for reminding me. So our subscription dollars are spent on C-Store items that are then turned around and sold to us for more dollars. Nice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    So the complaint here is that you are paying for a game you don't like so you can get access to the test server and on that TEST server things are not complete?

    I got sick of testing last week, so I stopped testing. I didn't know I had been wronged by Cryptic. Thank you for opening my eyes to this harsh injustice. Please does anyone know where I can get one of those avatars with their logo crossed out?

    Also your sub dollars are not going in to C-Store development. I think it's clear by now that the C-store income is larger then the income from subscriptions. So really it's the other way around.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    He's not saying he's quitting the game. He's simply saying he is sick of testing and he's not going to do it anymore.

    I agree with him.

    Having these damn Testing Rewards tied to grinding up a character on each side with totally messed up and broken game play through a lot of it is not fun. My Fed finally reached VA last night and my Klingon is now a Captain. I've still got a long way to grind if I want the Klingon side title and I'm sick of it really. I want to get back to my regular characters, but I feel compelled to finish off my Klingon just to get the rewards.

    Guess how much testing of the STFs and end game content I'm going to do. Yeah, none.

    So far this whole testing process has been entirely grabastic and lame. If not for the DOff system it wouldn't be any fun at all.


    :cool:

    I hear ya, same, Klingon at Lt Gen, Fed at Capt.
    I'm gonna level the Fed and just grind DOFF assigments with the Klingon.
    I may try the STFs, but, not until I see less bug reports on them.
    All these new ships are kinda cool, but no way am I gonna pay even more cash just to try them out.
    I only got a cple BOFF packs and got a couple of ships from the free points, but that's it. Unimpressed with the ships and when I got the officer packs, they were fubared and I got all common. Yay...
    Seems several of the ships are bugged anyway, others seem completely unappealing.
    Seems a better idea would have been to let players fly at least a few for free on the test server (like they did in the past), maybe they'd be more likely to buy those ships when they hit Holodeck.
    Sure would be nice to test some new MISSIONS...ahem...
    Besides the STFs, which are really just revamps with the same super long mission just broken into smaller segments, there are none.
    Whatever happened to that next Featured series that was supposed to start like a month ago?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    He's not saying he's quitting the game. He's simply saying he is sick of testing and he's not going to do it anymore.

    I agree with him.

    Having these damn Testing Rewards tied to grinding up a character on each side with totally messed up and broken game play through a lot of it is not fun. My Fed finally reached VA last night and my Klingon is now a Captain. I've still got a long way to grind if I want the Klingon side title and I'm sick of it really. I want to get back to my regular characters, but I feel compelled to finish off my Klingon just to get the rewards.

    Guess how much testing of the STFs and end game content I'm going to do. Yeah, none.

    So far this whole testing process has been entirely grabastic and lame. If not for the DOff system it wouldn't be any fun at all.


    :cool:

    My testing meter is pegged out, too. I was planning on leveling a Klingon after I got my Fed to VA and tested the STF's some. Then the crafting fiasco hit and got me in the mindset to get my Holodeck toons squared away before F2P afflicts the live server. So I've been leveling a sci alt and getting the Borg set on my VA's. That's been much more satisfying than testing on Tribble.
    joebobkill wrote: »
    Unless you count the new space pet.... Hey A LOT of work went into making it, they actually the marketing team, art team, dev team, website team, all working together on this!

    So the test server gets updates every week and all the live server got in the last 7 months is the Borg space invasion, the +1 ships and a giant space herpe. There's something seriously wrong with that picture.


    Z
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    modernevil wrote:
    Here I was, thinking the main reason I've been spending time on Tribble was to thoroughly test everything and thoroughly document bugs and other problems with the implementation, to help enable the devs to get the game in the best condition possible before pushing any new features to the actual play server.

    Every bug I find and accurately report is a better reward to me than any in-game reward I'll get later on Holodeck, and if you feel otherwise, yes, you probably aren't the sort of player who is doing any good by playing on a test server.

    The point isn't necessarily to have fun now, it is to find all the problems and give constructive feedback so that everyone can have fun with the game when these changes go live. Coincidentally, some of us find it intrinsically fun to search for and find bugs. It's like an Exploration meta-game.

    I would normally feel that way, but I also want the rewards that will give those who grind an advantage, however slight over those who didn't. Normally I would not worry about leveling in my testing. I would simply port over my various level characters and test like that. But you don't get the rewards that way. Really it's Cryptic's fault for adding these rewards in the way they did. Even qualified QA testers (which I am) are too busy grinding to really do the down and dirty testing.

    That's not to say that I'm not reporting bugs. I am. But perhaps not as many as I would if I was able to do the testing using my normal methodology.

    See what I mean?


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Staran wrote: »
    He quit testing. It is an Iquit thread!
    I agree, it iisn't fun.
    But there is nothing to do on Holodeck. I imported my main over to tribble and have 50 days of refining to do to get rid of my backlog.
    I am not going to increase it by even moving a muscle with that character.

    are you the offical i quit moniter, ya know that the devs job people getting on here saying you cant do that reminds me of school and the tattle tails lol, it's no skin off your nose, like my mama allways said worry about yourself and you'll have a job on your hands.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    are you the offical i quit moniter, ya know that the devs job people getting on here saying you cant do that reminds me of school and the tattle tails lol, it's no skin off your nose, like my mama allways said worry about yourself and you'll have a job on your hands.

    it's is a joke.
    sorry for not having to explain jokes as they are being told. I will put a <this is an obvious joke> tag around a jokes no matter how obvious it is.

    For example.

    <THIS IS AN OBVIOUS JOKE>
    Knock Knock.

    Who's there?

    .....

    </this is an obvious joke>

    I may have to capitalize the closing tag though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    He's not saying he's quitting the game. He's simply saying he is sick of testing and he's not going to do it anymore.

    I agree with him.

    Having these damn Testing Rewards tied to grinding up a character on each side with totally messed up and broken game play through a lot of it is not fun. My Fed finally reached VA last night and my Klingon is now a Captain. I've still got a long way to grind if I want the Klingon side title and I'm sick of it really. I want to get back to my regular characters, but I feel compelled to finish off my Klingon just to get the rewards.

    Guess how much testing of the STFs and end game content I'm going to do. Yeah, none.

    So far this whole testing process has been entirely grabastic and lame. If not for the DOff system it wouldn't be any fun at all.


    :cool:

    Thank you.
    This.
    This!
    This!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    zordar wrote: »
    My testing meter is pegged out, too. I was planning on leveling a Klingon after I got my Fed to VA and tested the STF's some. Then the crafting fiasco hit and got me in the mindset to get my Holodeck toons squared away before F2P afflicts the live server. So I've been leveling a sci alt and getting the Borg set on my VA's. That's been much more satisfying than testing on Tribble.

    Power-leveling three KDF toons so I can get my max-level tokens before those get nuked.
    At the same time I've got to get enough anomalies to fit them with all the gear I have to craft...and the Borg console...and let's not forget I still need to get my test chars to max as well...
    Holy F2P disaster, Batman!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    zordar wrote: »
    So the test server gets updates every week and all the live server got in the last 7 months is the Borg space invasion, the +1 ships and a giant space herpe. There's something seriously wrong with that picture.

    Z

    LOL Pretty much sums it up
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ok I understand that right now Tribble is broken but I think your missing the point of a 'Test Server'

    The point is the put things that the devs think are good and then they let us play with it so we can tell them if we also think its fun, or if its terrible or most likely if it is broken. They then take our feed back and fix things (usually).

    And just to make sure you understand why they give us potentially broken content is because a group of 80-100 people (idk how big Cryptic is) can only come up with so many ways of testing something. A few thousand people will be more likely to find all the bugs and be able to report them to Cryptic for patching.

    So yes, it is TRIBBLE but thats kinda the point. If you play a test server your agreeing to take the raw TRIBBLE that Cryptic spews out and help refine it into something nice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    modernevil wrote:
    Here I was, thinking the main reason I've been spending time on Tribble was to thoroughly test everything and thoroughly document bugs and other problems with the implementation, to help enable the devs to get the game in the best condition possible before pushing any new features to the actual play server.

    Every bug I find and accurately report is a better reward to me than any in-game reward I'll get later on Holodeck, and if you feel otherwise, yes, you probably aren't the sort of player who is doing any good by playing on a test server.

    The point isn't necessarily to have fun now, it is to find all the problems and give constructive feedback so that everyone can have fun with the game when these changes go live. Coincidentally, some of us find it intrinsically fun to search for and find bugs. It's like an Exploration meta-game.

    I'd like believe that all of our bug reports and testing on Tribble make a difference, BUT with the Perfect World calling the shots now I've lost all hope. This is mainly in light due to some of the horrible changes on Tribble.

    1.) Forced Scaling
    2.) Locked Story Line
    3.) Dilith for Crafting
    4.) Nerfed T5 Excel
    5.) Non-stackable ship devices now?? (i.e. batteries and such)

    and the list goes on...

    So far the ONLY thing half ways good is the new DOFF system, and some of the added Graphic Tweaks

    I want DStahl back quite frankly.

    Peace.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Monkey_Who wrote:
    5.) Non-stackable ship devices now?? (i.e. batteries and such)

    Wait, what?


    Z
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    zordar wrote: »
    Wait, what?


    Z

    It might merely be a bug, but on the KDF side - on Tribble F2P server - I am unable to stack batteries and the like. Normally you'd see a 2, 3, or whatever number of like devices stack - now when I try to do that it just rejects it and places the item back into my inventory.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Monkey_Who wrote:
    5.) Non-stackable ship devices now?? (i.e. batteries and such)

    On tribble, the starting gear ships & BOffs get are now slightly different from the standard gear; they all have a 0 EC value. Consequently, you can't add the starting items to stacks of non-identical (normal) items, and you can't sell a ship/BOff's starting gear for "free" EC.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    modernevil wrote:
    On tribble, the starting gear ships & BOffs get are now slightly different from the standard gear; they all have a 0 EC value. Consequently, you can't add the starting items to stacks of non-identical (normal) items, and you can't sell a ship/BOff's starting gear for "free" EC.

    ^ This.

    The Batteries still stack normally, but the batteries you start with are Starting Batteries, are bound and have no value, hence they will not stack with normal Batteries.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    VVargazm wrote:
    So the complaint here is that you are paying for a game you don't like so you can get access to the test server and on that TEST server things are not complete?

    I got sick of testing last week, so I stopped testing. I didn't know I had been wronged by Cryptic. Thank you for opening my eyes to this harsh injustice. Please does anyone know where I can get one of those avatars with their logo crossed out?

    Also your sub dollars are not going in to C-Store development. I think it's clear by now that the C-store income is larger then the income from subscriptions. So really it's the other way around.

    Where in the OP does the poster even remotely insinuate being wronged by Cryptic? :confused:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Spartan118 wrote: »
    So yes, it is TRIBBLE but thats kinda the point. If you play a test server your agreeing to take the raw TRIBBLE that Cryptic spews out and help refine it into something nice.

    Exactly. I don't think anyone (aside from few die hard Cryptic fans) is happy with what's (not) going on in holodeck but no one is forcing people to test.

    Monkey_Who wrote:
    II want DStahl back quite frankly.

    You want to hear more non-truths?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011

    On a serious note, I still fail to see why we are paying subscription fees to test a F2P game. And don't use the argument that we don't have to test the F2P. Currently this is the only server getting content updates.

    Hey look on the bright side. As long as they dont touch holodeck, they wont break half the game trying to implement something usually unneeded and most of the time unrelated to the part of the game they killed (they kill exploration every fricking patch afterall) :D
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