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Respecs and Tokens ?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Tribble - General Discussion and Feedback
Hi,

I already made this question but I dont get a official response.

What will happen with our not used respecs and not used ship tokens, like the VA token in holodeck, after the conversion to F2P ?

I am asking here because I saw some users converting from holodeck and they lost the tokens and respecs.

I have 1 starship plaque for a VA ship ( for a XXXX retroft ) and 1 Shuttle Requisition Autorization.

I have almost all respecs earned in gameplay.

Thanks and excuse me my bad english.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Not an official answer, but here goes from what I saw so far:
    Unused respec tokens - you get to keep these (my character kept her 4 of these tokens after transferring to Tribble)
    Unused VA ship tokens - will be lost, as far as I know there currently isn't given anything in return for it
    Unused < VA ship tokens - unknown
    Unused shuttle tokens - I think you get to keep those, but I can't tell for sure
    Purchased C-Store ships/ shuttles - you keep full access to those, just as on Holodeck

    I would like to see a dev response to your post too, it'll probably clear up a lot of confusion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    If we put enough pressure on Cryptic, then with any luck they will bend to our wishes and restore the VA ship token, in which case it will stay.

    As for the respec tokens, nothing is happening to them.
    What is happening though is that they are taking away the only non c-store method of respeccing after you have used up your tokens.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    With the risk of going off topic; personally I don't have a lot against losing the VA ship token. Sure it sucks, but through the stipends I can purchase those ships anyway and then have them unlocked account wide. It takes 3 months on average to unlock a single ship account wide. Since I have 8 Feds and 3 Klingons it's worth the wait in my personal case. This might not go for everybody, but those that already purchased C-Store ships in the past won't be affected as badly as those who didn't.

    With the Klingon side I'll feel zero impact of this decision since I purchased the Garumba and I love that ship so much that I want to fly it on all my Klingons. On the Fed side it's going to suck for some of my alts, but I'll wait it out by saving up stipends.
    On the Fed side I already have the Vulcan vessel and the MVA ship unlocked, so it's not all that bad for me there either.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Nishka wrote:
    With the risk of going off topic; personally I don't have a lot against losing the VA ship token. Sure it sucks, but through the stipends I can purchase those ships anyway and then have them unlocked account wide. It takes 3 months on average to unlock a single ship account wide. Since I have 8 Feds and 3 Klingons it's worth the wait in my personal case. This might not go for everybody, but those that already purchased C-Store ships in the past won't be affected as badly as those who didn't.

    I am against any decision to make me lose something that I conquered. There is no valid argument to justify this action.

    If it need to be removed, then give dillitium for a Rear Admiral plus 25% and maybe it will be fair.

    Or give me an option to get a VA ship (that common retrofit from holodeck) in c-store, for free, if a player already have a VA Token.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    LeoKesler wrote: »
    I am against any decision to make me lose something that I conquered. There is no valid argument to justify this action.

    If it need to be removed, then give dillitium for a Rear Admiral plus 25% and maybe it will be fair.

    Or give me an option to get a VA ship (that common retrofit from holodeck) in c-store, for free, if a player already have a VA Token.

    How did you conquer something that was given? :-s
    You didn't have to do anything to get the token other than accepting the promotion from Admiral Quinn and visiting him to turn it in.

    The fix is very simple btw, just purchase a ship on Holodeck while you still can and make sure those tokens are used. I purchased the Kar'Fi ship with my Klingon, while already having the Garumba. My other characters had already used up their VA token.


    I'm a lot more concerned about the respec tokens and our merits not being turned into respec tokens. Merits was something that you could actively grind for, and many people did too, so your argument is valid for those. In my situation I'm going from 10 respecs (4 tokens and 120k merits) to 4 respecs with my main character.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Nishka wrote:
    How did you conquer something that was given? :-s
    You didn't have to do anything to get the token other than accepting the promotion from Admiral Quinn and visiting him to turn it in.

    I never received anything for free. And what I got was following the rules. The VA token is earned after reaching the maximum level, after 50 levels. So, I need to fight for 50 levels.
    Nishka wrote:
    I'm a lot more concerned about the respec tokens and our merits not being turned into respec tokens. Merits was something that you could actively grind for, and many people did too, so your argument is valid for those. In my situation I'm going from 10 respecs (4 tokens and 120k merits) to 4 respecs with my main character.

    Following your reasoning, why bother with their merits, if they were given to you?

    And do not say you fought for them. I fought for 50 levels to get a VA token.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I used the term 'given' since you'll only ever get 1 VA ship token in your character's career. Merit is earned on a constant basis, the difference is in whether you can acquire it by your own means, at any given time. With the token that's not the case. We got one of them and if we wanted more VA ships we had to grind/ earn them by gathering emblems, which, like merit, can be earned at any given time by your own means.

    I would say that you earned it yes, but conquered...? ;)

    It's probably a personal thing, but I see a big difference in conquering and earning something. :p

    For the sake of preventing to stray of your original topic, let's agree to disagree on the terminology.

    I do agree that things are taken away and we're not getting something back in return. Whether I can live with that or not is my personal oppinion and not important for the argument, I can understand that other people do want to see compensation for that particular thing.

    My fix still works though, just spend the token on Holodeck and buy a ship before the new system goes live. With merit there isn't a similar fix at our disposal. We can't buy respec tokens for merit.
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