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There needs to be a way to convert Bridge Officers to Duty Officers. I have been leveling tribble and I have way more bridge officers then I need(way to many, you wouldn't believe how much), and plenty of room in the Duty Officers department by a remarkable margin.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'm not sure this would be technically viable, but a replace this candidate with a Duty Officer of the same class, species and rarity (color) DOff mission would be nice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Even one way conversion with random stats would be nice, on Holodeck the exchange is crammed full of Bridge officers nobody ever wants and other people put up there because they don't understand what kinds of Bridge officer powers and merits are in demand.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Thinking about this, I don't think turning BOFF candidates into DOFFs is the way to go. I think what would be more interesting, would be if they stopped throwing BOFFs at us every other level, and instead gave us a DOFF every other level. Then, say once per rank up, we can promote a DOFF to a BOFF.

    Seems more realistic to me. While some ships are certain to transfer in experienced veterans from other commands, I bet a lot of the time if an opening comes up on the bridge crew they'll just promote from the lower decks. (Sulu was head of Astrometrics before becoming the Enterprise's helmsman for example, and its been been suggested Chekov was a faceless redshirt on the enterprise before becoming Navigator, hence Khan recognizing him in STII, and Geordie was just Ops officer before moving up to Chief Engineer)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Feor wrote: »
    Thinking about this, I don't think turning BOFF candidates into DOFFs is the way to go. I think what would be more interesting, would be if they stopped throwing BOFFs at us every other level, and instead gave us a DOFF every other level. Then, say once per rank up, we can promote a DOFF to a BOFF.

    It should be even simpler than that. DOFF's can become BOFF's but not the other way around. Do away with the BOFF's per level entirely. This is a lot more realistic. You probably wouldn't demote a BOFF (transfer them) but you are likely to promote an excellent duty officer to a bridge position.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    It should be even simpler than that. DOFF's can become BOFF's but not the other way around. Do away with the BOFF's per level entirely. This is a lot more realistic. You probably wouldn't demote a BOFF (transfer them) but you are likely to promote an excellent duty officer to a bridge position.

    That's... exactly what I said.

    Instead of getting Free BOFFs as we level we get Free DOFFs.
    And at certain times we get the opportunity to promote the DOFF to a BOFF.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Realistically DOFFs should be thrown at people at every turn and BOs rarer. Getting highly trained personnel to be senior officers is way more difficult then finding normal crew and civilians, just ask any Officer in the military.

    That being said, I thought Cryptic said they were planning on having the ability to turn BOs into DOFFs, I'd love to offload my excessively large collection of unused BOs instead of junking them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Realistically DOFFs should be thrown at people at every turn and BOs rarer. Getting highly trained personnel to be senior officers is way more difficult then finding normal crew and civilians, just ask any Officer in the military.

    That being said, I thought Cryptic said they were planning on having the ability to turn BOs into DOFFs, I'd love to offload my excessively large collection of unused BOs instead of junking them.

    It's an idea that has been floated, but it would certainly require tech we don't have at the moment. We'll see what we can come up with.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    It would make more sense to get DOFFs at every other rank up rather than BOFFs, at least after lvl 8. It would really help to fill out the roster a little more. While it would be nice (& actually realistic) to promote DOFFs to BOFFs, it seems like the DOFFs have assigned names & traits while the BOFFs are almost completely random. It might actually be easier currently to demote BOFFs to DOFFs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Hello,
    Yes i think too, that we should get not so many Brigde Officers as now and that we should get Duty Officers on Ranking but too.
    But in my opionion if the Birgde Officers get cut down, it should max 50% and then we should have the opterunity to choose between three or two green qualty Bridge Officers and between 2 Blue and Purple quality Brigde Officers.
    So we have lesser Canidates they fill our backup roster but have same or more ratio on canidates.

    And the best point to get more Duty Officers should be if you ranking up.
    You have now a better rank and so you can request more personal.
    Maybe a punch around 5 or 6 Duty Officers.

    Greetings and have a nice day
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Heretic wrote:
    It's an idea that has been floated, but it would certainly require tech we don't have at the moment. We'll see what we can come up with.

    How about a simple exchange. Go to Vendor X and trade in your BO's quality for quality. White and you can choose from the white level etc. It's a way of converting them without a whole new level of tech since it's a store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    AnomalousX wrote:
    There needs to be a way to convert Bridge Officers to Duty Officers. I have been leveling tribble and I have way more bridge officers then I need(way to many, you wouldn't believe how much), and plenty of room in the Duty Officers department by a remarkable margin.

    Yeah, I do too, and I like the Commadore's idea of having a store for them. I especially have too many BOffs considering I'm also getting some from Duty Officer missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Ren_Arcen wrote:
    It would make more sense to get DOFFs at every other rank up rather than BOFFs, at least after lvl 8. It would really help to fill out the roster a little more. While it would be nice (& actually realistic) to promote DOFFs to BOFFs, it seems like the DOFFs have assigned names & traits while the BOFFs are almost completely random. It might actually be easier currently to demote BOFFs to DOFFs.

    I agree, on Tribble I am swimming in BOFFs that stagnate in reserve, and I have yet to get any new DOFFs since my first batch. It would be nice to see them swaped around a bit. Also BOFF rarity needs to be clearer once they are commissioned, or us given a way to transfer the "rarity" to existing BOFFs, since most BOFFs didn't get traded in on the shows, it would be nice to build a crew we want and stick too them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Currently, at every level up, or some missions, they ask you to chose an officer and only give you one to chose from. Why not add the choice, pick the boff, or pick 2 Doffs? Or one doff, but i believe that a boff is worth more than a doff.

    Also, the Boff store at ESD could exchange boff for Doff at the above rate. And with that, use the same exchange rate to trade boff and doffs between players. Jest like that mission where you send in 3 under preforming doffs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Realistically DOFFs should be thrown at people at every turn and BOs rarer. Getting highly trained personnel to be senior officers is way more difficult then finding normal crew and civilians, just ask any Officer in the military...
    So well said.

    For basic leveling, you get all the BOs you need while you're still a lieutenant. And yet the BOs keep coming. I think you need another BO for your ship come Captain or surey by Admiral. When my characters reach Admiral levels I might start using more BOs trained in certain powers for specific builds/missions or for a specific ground crew. I might even seek out certain traits/appearance for the away team. And all along the way there are certain times you want to "burn off" a BO to train another BO (especially certain powers that only come from "rare/random" BOs.

    Even after all that customizing though, by end game I still have way more BOs than I'll ever need. On some characters I've literally been forced to sell/discharge BOs as I still have "New Crew" missions pending resolution that I can't complete because I'm all full up.

    This all doesn't even take into consideration "Special" Bridge Officers: Amazon Borg, Friend Referral, the talked about Vet BO, the STF Borg, FE BOs, C-Store BOs, etc.

    Bottom line is, I have to agree with much of the sentiment in this thread. All my characters end up with way too many BOs. Being able to reduce the BO quantity and increase the DOff numbers would be great.
    How about a simple exchange. Go to Vendor X and trade in your BO's quality for quality. White and you can choose from the white level etc. It's a way of converting them without a whole new level of tech since it's a store.
    I love this idea. I wouldn't even mind if the new DOff was random, so long as the quality remained. White BO gives me White DOff. Green for Green, Blue for Blue, Purple for Purple. Be sure you make it so people can't feed the vendor certain BOs (like Amazon Borg or Photo Borg).
    Heretic wrote:
    It's an idea that has been floated, but it would certainly require tech we don't have at the moment. We'll see what we can come up with.
    Please do!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Bort1980 wrote: »
    Yeah, I do too, and I like the Commadore's idea of having a store for them. I especially have too many BOffs considering I'm also getting some from Duty Officer missions.

    There is a store, but its an ungodly beast of time check. At Star Fleet Academy in one of the buildings there is a thundercat who deals Duty Officers to people who level up in DOff missions, but it takes like a week to get one officer off of them. A Duty Oofficer reward from the diplomacy tab can be had in a few days of constant grind but it's only one officer per reward and no where near enough to replace losses from Military and other possibley lethal DOff missions.
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