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When I leveled a tac officer to VA on Holodeck one of the things I was able to get right away was the defiant retrofit, without buying it from the C-Store. I was able to just spend the VA ship token for this vessel. Now on tribble for the f2p test I just got another tac up to VA, and went to look at the ship selections.

Not only do you not receive any delithium at VA or RA upper half, you also do not get a chance to pick up a retrofit ship for your new VA. As it stands now, the only way to get the retrofit ships for any character is to buy them from the C-store. I think this counts as yet another thing that is being taken away from all subscribers.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Do you get a mission to purchase a ship at VA1 to complete your promotion?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'm not sure if I received that mission... I'll check in a few days with my Klingon when she gets up to the VA1 equivalent.

    Things that you unlocked on Holodeck didn't carry over to Tribble, but I do hope that the VA ships stay accessible to everybody. So far I only ever bought the MVA and Garumba seige destroyer.

    I don't think it'd help with attaining players if you suddenly remove their options to fly around in the end-game ships.

    I'm guessing that this is one of those bugs that need to get worked out and wasn't done intentionally though. At least, that's what I hope.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    just reached va and no dilithium or refit ship. and op is right no dilithium at upper promotion. HMMMM

    stuck in a ship i don't want or like.

    Fingers crossed this is a bug.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    pretty sure this is NOT a bug guys.....fortunatly i have cstore ships already.......so either grind out the dilith or....break out the wallet :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Jentai wrote: »
    pretty sure this is NOT a bug guys.....fortunatly i have cstore ships already.......so either grind out the dilith or....break out the wallet :)


    Pretty much the slogan for STO when F2P hits is = pay or grind. :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I think this is a bug, all the C-store ships locked when they brought up the test C-store, however they clearly had dilithium prices before. There may be a bug that is not allowing the ships to be purchased both ways right now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    yup just had the same problem.. had a rubbish galaxy i saved up for at captain, battled my way up to VA and got told, tuff you have to save for a months or go buy one in the c-store to get a new ship.

    Now if i was a silver member, thats fine, but as a gold thats rubbish... silver/free members can grind, gold members should get a free VA ship like we currently do..

    All i can see is SWG NGP happening all over again and it breaks my hart.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Both the RAUH and VA promotions you get from Quinn on Tribble say you get a ship plaque for a new ship. I didn't get a plaque either time. I'm pretty sure the text is a holdover from Holodeck and will be changed to "Hey, nice job grinding, Buttercup. Visit the C-$tore if you want a better ship" or something similar. Basically, no ships or Dilithium at RAUH or VA and all the retrofits are C-$tore only (now with inflated prices!). Grinding isn't even an option at VA anymore. Now it's just pay-or-pay. :(


    Z
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Jentai wrote: »
    so either grind out the dilith or....break out the wallet :)
    STO's new mantra.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Seems like the more I read, the less difference there is between subed and silver. Both lead you right to the C-Store, everytime, all the time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Esquire wrote: »
    Seems like the more I read, the less difference there is between subed and silver. Both lead you right to the C-Store, everytime, all the time.

    I have to admit I am seeing the same thing and it's my greatest concern.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    There is almost no incentive for people to remain subbed right now as the only real difference are venteran rewards and some other things you can get for purchases in the C-store that are less than the price of a subscription. The loss of the free ship at RAUH isn't much of an issue since the ships you choose form are the same as RALH but the free ship at VA shouldn't be taken away as VA is a new rank that unlocks new ships on Holodeck. Reaching VA should not be okay now you unlock new ships... sorry all the new ships you can buy are C-store only...oh and we're jacking up the prices on them too... BOHICA!

    The Ferengi have bought Starfleet and now it is all a money making scheme for the Orion Syndicate!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    SatansHell wrote: »
    Pretty much the slogan for STO when F2P hits is = pay or grind. :(

    That is wrong, as there is no grind method with VA ships, it is just pay or do without.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    it is not just VA ships... you need to purchase commander and captain ships too..

    i didn't get any dilithium during my promotion. so i had to GRIND!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    There is almost no incentive for people to remain subbed right now as the only real difference are venteran rewards and some other things you can get for purchases in the C-store that are less than the price of a subscription. The loss of the free ship at RAUH isn't much of an issue since the ships you choose form are the same as RALH but the free ship at VA shouldn't be taken away as VA is a new rank that unlocks new ships on Holodeck. Reaching VA should not be okay now you unlock new ships... sorry all the new ships you can buy are C-store only...oh and we're jacking up the prices on them too... BOHICA!

    The Ferengi have bought Starfleet and now it is all a money making scheme for the Orion Syndicate!

    To be fair, when this thing hits live on holodeck, their wont be an incentive to play period! :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    That is wrong, as there is no grind method with VA ships, it is just pay or do without.

    Touche, I thought you could buy them with dilithium, if thats not the case, then you are indeed correct .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Looks like this is true to me. I cannot get a Defiant Retrofit without visiting the C-store on tribble.

    Please can a dev confirm that this is intentional or not.

    If it is please accept my resignation as I \ragequit.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Mirai wrote: »
    Do you get a mission to purchase a ship at VA1 to complete your promotion?

    I'm pretty sure I did. I remember quinn telling me to buy a ship when I got promoted.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    athenaX wrote:
    I'm pretty sure I did. I remember quinn telling me to buy a ship when I got promoted.

    Yeah, but you don't get a ship plaque, token or Dilithium. I'm guessing the devs just forgot to change the text.


    Z
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I am also interested to know this is intentional or not.

    IMO Gold members should get a ship token and dilithium at VA just like they get at the other levels. Having VA ships as C-store only is a bit of a kick in the teeth for paying players.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    As it stands now. I"m not going to keep subbed. It seems there's no benefit to do so. You still have to pay C Store for VA ships. I started out excited to get on Tribble to test things out. I just got disappointed. The VA ship C Store only option was the nail in the coffin for STO for me.
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