i accept changes pretty well. I bought my LTS a long time ago because this is Star Trek. I love every series, episode, and movie. This game was and still is the holy grail for me because I can live in my Star Trek universe. BUT, there are people making decisions that are mucking that all up. I have been playing
F2P Tribble and have built my Fed up to Commander 9 and my Klingon is Lt Commander 9. My experience with both is now negative based on THIS
Streamlined Story Arcs - Where is the logic in making to where you can't jump back and forth between different story arcs? Just open this option up, and keep the next current mission deal letting you know what would be next based on the last mission you played.
Dilithium importance - Why oh why since we are in Starleet are we forced to buy ships upon being promoted when they are our duty stations? When I was in the Army I didn't have to rent my barracks room or buy freaking Fort Drum! Make no sense to me. Not Logical to the PLAYER.
Daily Missions - I have always disliked doing the star clusters because after a while it gets REALLY repetitive. I am so tired of seeing that same bluish greensin lab for the two different factions located on opposite sides of the "map". Also, since we have to buy our new ship upon being promoted we are FORCED to play these dailies to earn Dilithium. Now I HATE the star clusters. I would rather take out the trash or wash dishes. I would rather sit here and type all this out that sit on STO and try to earn Dlithium in Star Clusters so I can buy my Commander ship after I have been promoted to Captain. Its CRAZY. I have seen no fans of this and actually people who usually take Cryptics side are now saying WAIT, this is dumb. I am in that group.
Klingons - Do I really need to explain? I will a little. When I created my new Klingon I was given equipment, weapons, experience. Everyting I would get if I was to play for a few days. This to me is about the dumbest thing ever. For me it takes away from the experience. Maybe because I am spoiled. I thought it was right to work and earn achievements. Instead, because of lack of content, or something else that I can't say on here, we start out deeper in to level progression. I hate this and from this day forward I will never create another KDF toon. Maybe with the weekly episodes that is supposed to start back someday just focus on the KDF faction at first. There is plenty of FED things, Cryptic and Foundry side. Alternate with every series. That makes more sense that doing what has been done to Klingons on Tribble.
Well that about sums up my gripes. Im sure there will be more. basically, everyone, I will just stop playing, delete the STO icon my desktop and forget this game exists if these things dont somehow change. Maybe I could learn to get used to it but I doubt it. Time will tell for me.
I have to say, the dilithium system is not that bad when you factor in events. I made 4000 refined dilithium just for repeating the Fed mirror event. Which by the way rocks.
I have to say, the dilithium system is not that bad when you factor in events. I made 4000 refined dilithium just for repeating the Fed mirror event. Which by the way rocks.
I guess my point is that you are forced to do one or the other. Or some other type daily that gives Dilithium. Which sucks if you don't like doing either. OR if you dont have the time to farm the big D.
Any mmo that forces you to grind inorder to advance is bad. The Dilithium system in it's current state is grinding. This is a game not a second job.
Have you seen the new borg salvage system then? how you need not just borg salvage but a $#!T ton of it to get what you want and how little you get from grinding? it's insane what they're trying to do with the new economy here. Each paid subscription after F2P goes live should come with a pair of STO socks with hand prints that show you exactly where to grab your ankles.....
Oh Boy you are more naive than I though. Did you really believe for a minute that the new Cryptic administration under Chinesse control gave a TRIBBLE about your Lifers or monthly subscribers? Sadly mistaken folks, they dont give a hoot in a howler for us.
While I'm sure many of you know me as a dissenter, I have had my reasons for being so against this game's direction over the last several months. (and really have been against it, since I've been pvping.... which makes it well over a year actually )
I think I will take my time now, to elaborate on the why now.
Since I started playing this game, my initial impression, and reaction to the game was actually quite positive. I could see a very rough product that needed to be refined, and sculpted into a master piece, the form and potential, was nothing short of utterly brilliant.
What I saw when I first subbed to this game, and the initial few months was that. Rough, and needing a masterful job to fully realize the concepts and gameplay potential.
As the seasons rolled by, I wondered when they were going to update pvp content, various promises were always made, and never delivered upon always "we need to do X first.. but soon". (this sound familiar to you PvE guys yet? We'd been enduring that line much longer)
Gameplay changes were made that no one asked for, while core underlying problems were ignored time and time again. (Case in point... Tricobalt and Plasma Nerf, while Voldemort is still running rampant) Balance changes, which were heavy handed, and indeed quite often Counter to what the pvp community asked for were slapped in as an after thought time and time again. (RSP's change among so many others. There were so many good solutions proposed instead of the one cryptic put on tribble at the time, but they did what they wanted to do anyway. And that's just one example, Torp Spread is another ) We were promised that pve rewards would never negatively impact the gameplay, however with every Featured Episode, the rewards constantly affected pvp very negatively. From the initial ghost buster gun one shotting enemy teams, to Scorpion fighters clogging up the UI so badly, and going friendly immediately after their deployer left the combat zone. To the cloaking tractor mines, which could be spammed to not just clog the UI, but perma disable enemy teams. (making them able to constantly shoot and harass you, and you unable to shoot them... meaning perpetual red alert. I don't think I have to explain why this is bad on huge pvp maps) time and time again cryptic slapped the pvp community in the face.
Overall, the game had been taking a steadily increasing series of steps in the negative direction. WOW, was a very distant memory for me, and I resubbed to it recently just post cataclysm. It was nothing short of shocking as to just how low my standards had fallen for this game in what I was willing to consider acceptable for the money I shelled out for this game. (not just in subs, but Respecs.... god only knows just how many respecs I've bought, plus a few ship skins, bridge packs, and the Excels, Karfi, and MVAM I bought) I have since cancelled my sub to wow again after playing it for 3 months. I was introduced to RIFT, and haven't looked back at either STO or WOW. My sub runs out November 1st. It would have ended last month, but I felt I had to take care of some administrative duties within my fleet, so it could easily continue without me as the game moves towards the ground.
When the Rhode Island came, they denied that it was more powerful than the other ships, despite it being blatantly better in almost every measurable way. Later they retracted that statement and embraced it's power. The AMS console, on that stupid T4 failaxy, has now been plaguing T5 pvp, that it's sucked any little bit of enjoyment out of it for most of us.
Testing on the free to pay server. I've realized this game is going to crash hard. I almost regret even subbing this last month for my guys, because this game isn't going to attract thousands of new players. It's an Azn MMO, those fail hard over here for a reason. Westerners have Standards for gaming. Grindfests aren't in those Standards. And this game isn't going to succeed in the East either, because those Free to Play games, do not gouge their players nearly as hard as this one. This game charges you 20 dollars for a ship. That is 5 more dollars than a sub, and realistically unless you like putting your face on the keyboard and rolling it around for week upon week upon week on end to grind up to the next tier of ship which you should get for Free, you'll be shelling out alot more than 20 USDs a month, as each tier goes by extremely quickly. So this is left with what... who's going to join this game?
Certainly not many Westerners... and only fairly well off Easteners.... talk about a niche market that's even smaller than the very tiny fraction of one they have now. (oh, and this game has no where near 100k subs according to mmo data, and what I've personally seen in various zones... and I play during Prime Time for mmos)
F2P is also coming out at a very bad time. This should have gone down a year ago... because lets face it 2010 was a fairly spartan year for good pc games. There's a bloody swath of them coming this year that promises to break the wallets of gamers the world over. And that's not counting the perennial console titles coming either.
So what kept me here all of this time? The community. And now that the community is by and large departing, (certainly opvp seems to be) I have no reason to stay. The community for this game, was one of the best, most helpful and cooperative out there. No other community I played with would willingly tie arms behind their backs in order for everyone to have fun in pvp. And that's just one example, to say nothing of various events the pvp community has hosted, and the myriad of friendships made. Now that, is ending there's nothing to look forward to. I'm going to miss my cohorts and partners in crime, but I suspect I'll be seeing most of them again come 12-20-2011 if not sooner in various other games.
Yeah. A lot of bad decisions being made here. Im seeing a train wreck a few months down the road. Like, around Dec/Jan...
Hopefully they continue to read the forums, and continue to see what we are saying. I still have hope... But...
As a side note: Bashing them does nothing. Bashing those who disagree with the decisions does nothing. Lets try to act as mature as this community can be in this time of un-certainty.
Yeah. A lot of bad decisions being made here. Im seeing a train wreck a few months down the road. Like, around Dec/Jan...
Hopefully they continue to read the forums, and continue to see what we are saying. I still have hope... But...
As a side note: Bashing them does nothing. Bashing those who disagree with the decisions does nothing. Lets try to act as mature as this community can be in this time of un-certainty.
I agree, presenting the facts does come across as more constructive.
It is unfortunate that many of us (myself included) have for so long had an emotional investment in Star Trek and consequently the MMo Cryptic made.
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F2P Tribble and have built my Fed up to Commander 9 and my Klingon is Lt Commander 9. My experience with both is now negative based on THIS
Streamlined Story Arcs - Where is the logic in making to where you can't jump back and forth between different story arcs? Just open this option up, and keep the next current mission deal letting you know what would be next based on the last mission you played.
Dilithium importance - Why oh why since we are in Starleet are we forced to buy ships upon being promoted when they are our duty stations? When I was in the Army I didn't have to rent my barracks room or buy freaking Fort Drum! Make no sense to me. Not Logical to the PLAYER.
Daily Missions - I have always disliked doing the star clusters because after a while it gets REALLY repetitive. I am so tired of seeing that same bluish greensin lab for the two different factions located on opposite sides of the "map". Also, since we have to buy our new ship upon being promoted we are FORCED to play these dailies to earn Dilithium. Now I HATE the star clusters. I would rather take out the trash or wash dishes. I would rather sit here and type all this out that sit on STO and try to earn Dlithium in Star Clusters so I can buy my Commander ship after I have been promoted to Captain. Its CRAZY. I have seen no fans of this and actually people who usually take Cryptics side are now saying WAIT, this is dumb. I am in that group.
Klingons - Do I really need to explain? I will a little. When I created my new Klingon I was given equipment, weapons, experience. Everyting I would get if I was to play for a few days. This to me is about the dumbest thing ever. For me it takes away from the experience. Maybe because I am spoiled. I thought it was right to work and earn achievements. Instead, because of lack of content, or something else that I can't say on here, we start out deeper in to level progression. I hate this and from this day forward I will never create another KDF toon. Maybe with the weekly episodes that is supposed to start back someday just focus on the KDF faction at first. There is plenty of FED things, Cryptic and Foundry side. Alternate with every series. That makes more sense that doing what has been done to Klingons on Tribble.
Well that about sums up my gripes. Im sure there will be more. basically, everyone, I will just stop playing, delete the STO icon my desktop and forget this game exists if these things dont somehow change. Maybe I could learn to get used to it but I doubt it. Time will tell for me.
I guess my point is that you are forced to do one or the other. Or some other type daily that gives Dilithium. Which sucks if you don't like doing either. OR if you dont have the time to farm the big D.
PW just ordred them to make as much fast cash with the game as possible after they bought it up.
The game is going Star Cash Online
Have you seen the new borg salvage system then? how you need not just borg salvage but a $#!T ton of it to get what you want and how little you get from grinding? it's insane what they're trying to do with the new economy here. Each paid subscription after F2P goes live should come with a pair of STO socks with hand prints that show you exactly where to grab your ankles.....
I think I will take my time now, to elaborate on the why now.
Since I started playing this game, my initial impression, and reaction to the game was actually quite positive. I could see a very rough product that needed to be refined, and sculpted into a master piece, the form and potential, was nothing short of utterly brilliant.
What I saw when I first subbed to this game, and the initial few months was that. Rough, and needing a masterful job to fully realize the concepts and gameplay potential.
As the seasons rolled by, I wondered when they were going to update pvp content, various promises were always made, and never delivered upon always "we need to do X first.. but soon". (this sound familiar to you PvE guys yet? We'd been enduring that line much longer)
Gameplay changes were made that no one asked for, while core underlying problems were ignored time and time again. (Case in point... Tricobalt and Plasma Nerf, while Voldemort is still running rampant) Balance changes, which were heavy handed, and indeed quite often Counter to what the pvp community asked for were slapped in as an after thought time and time again. (RSP's change among so many others. There were so many good solutions proposed instead of the one cryptic put on tribble at the time, but they did what they wanted to do anyway. And that's just one example, Torp Spread is another ) We were promised that pve rewards would never negatively impact the gameplay, however with every Featured Episode, the rewards constantly affected pvp very negatively. From the initial ghost buster gun one shotting enemy teams, to Scorpion fighters clogging up the UI so badly, and going friendly immediately after their deployer left the combat zone. To the cloaking tractor mines, which could be spammed to not just clog the UI, but perma disable enemy teams. (making them able to constantly shoot and harass you, and you unable to shoot them... meaning perpetual red alert. I don't think I have to explain why this is bad on huge pvp maps) time and time again cryptic slapped the pvp community in the face.
Overall, the game had been taking a steadily increasing series of steps in the negative direction. WOW, was a very distant memory for me, and I resubbed to it recently just post cataclysm. It was nothing short of shocking as to just how low my standards had fallen for this game in what I was willing to consider acceptable for the money I shelled out for this game. (not just in subs, but Respecs.... god only knows just how many respecs I've bought, plus a few ship skins, bridge packs, and the Excels, Karfi, and MVAM I bought) I have since cancelled my sub to wow again after playing it for 3 months. I was introduced to RIFT, and haven't looked back at either STO or WOW. My sub runs out November 1st. It would have ended last month, but I felt I had to take care of some administrative duties within my fleet, so it could easily continue without me as the game moves towards the ground.
When the Rhode Island came, they denied that it was more powerful than the other ships, despite it being blatantly better in almost every measurable way. Later they retracted that statement and embraced it's power. The AMS console, on that stupid T4 failaxy, has now been plaguing T5 pvp, that it's sucked any little bit of enjoyment out of it for most of us.
Testing on the free to pay server. I've realized this game is going to crash hard. I almost regret even subbing this last month for my guys, because this game isn't going to attract thousands of new players. It's an Azn MMO, those fail hard over here for a reason. Westerners have Standards for gaming. Grindfests aren't in those Standards. And this game isn't going to succeed in the East either, because those Free to Play games, do not gouge their players nearly as hard as this one. This game charges you 20 dollars for a ship. That is 5 more dollars than a sub, and realistically unless you like putting your face on the keyboard and rolling it around for week upon week upon week on end to grind up to the next tier of ship which you should get for Free, you'll be shelling out alot more than 20 USDs a month, as each tier goes by extremely quickly. So this is left with what... who's going to join this game?
Certainly not many Westerners... and only fairly well off Easteners.... talk about a niche market that's even smaller than the very tiny fraction of one they have now. (oh, and this game has no where near 100k subs according to mmo data, and what I've personally seen in various zones... and I play during Prime Time for mmos)
F2P is also coming out at a very bad time. This should have gone down a year ago... because lets face it 2010 was a fairly spartan year for good pc games. There's a bloody swath of them coming this year that promises to break the wallets of gamers the world over. And that's not counting the perennial console titles coming either.
So what kept me here all of this time? The community. And now that the community is by and large departing, (certainly opvp seems to be) I have no reason to stay. The community for this game, was one of the best, most helpful and cooperative out there. No other community I played with would willingly tie arms behind their backs in order for everyone to have fun in pvp. And that's just one example, to say nothing of various events the pvp community has hosted, and the myriad of friendships made. Now that, is ending there's nothing to look forward to. I'm going to miss my cohorts and partners in crime, but I suspect I'll be seeing most of them again come 12-20-2011 if not sooner in various other games.
Hopefully they continue to read the forums, and continue to see what we are saying. I still have hope... But...
As a side note: Bashing them does nothing. Bashing those who disagree with the decisions does nothing. Lets try to act as mature as this community can be in this time of un-certainty.
I agree, presenting the facts does come across as more constructive.
It is unfortunate that many of us (myself included) have for so long had an emotional investment in Star Trek and consequently the MMo Cryptic made.