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So I have been testing the Free to play build and I'm slowly losing faith that Cryptic has the best interests of this game at heart....This is my rant and my reasons.
1. Forced to level in order.....Why? i always loved deviating in the game and wandering around. Now missions come in a certain order whose brilliant idea was this? this is not fun doing the exact same order with ever new alt.
2. Buying my new tier of ships......excuse me...the federation isn't founded on money...So why does it feel like this game is becoming less and less about trek and starting to feel more like a grinding mmo from the east. (hmmm)
3. Klingons capped until you play federation....While I do not like the klingon faction limiting them to a higher level is utterly boneheaded....what will we do for pvp which is already suffering badly.
4. Forced dailies......When you force people to do something especially dailies simply to progress....you need to fire whoever thought this was a good idea.
5. the grind....Im sorry and I don't mean to sound bad with this comment but this is Star Trek not Aion....why are we copying an eastern style of MMO with grinding endlessly to get new rewards....where is the fun in this? can cryptic not find a better way to earn items.
Shattered promises....I recall It being said we would not Notice a whole lot of difference in our gameplay with the free to play conversion....yet this is beginning to feel a lot like SWG when the NGE went live....
the more I see the more im unhappy with my favorite game...I have never let my sub die since this game has come out....and thankfully never bought a lifetime Sub though for the first time....I am beginning to question Star treks future under cryptic and starting to wonder if the string of bad judgement means it's time to move on.
thanks for reading.
1. Forced to level in order.....Why? i always loved deviating in the game and wandering around. Now missions come in a certain order whose brilliant idea was this? this is not fun doing the exact same order with ever new alt.
2. Buying my new tier of ships......excuse me...the federation isn't founded on money...So why does it feel like this game is becoming less and less about trek and starting to feel more like a grinding mmo from the east. (hmmm)
3. Klingons capped until you play federation....While I do not like the klingon faction limiting them to a higher level is utterly boneheaded....what will we do for pvp which is already suffering badly.
4. Forced dailies......When you force people to do something especially dailies simply to progress....you need to fire whoever thought this was a good idea.
5. the grind....Im sorry and I don't mean to sound bad with this comment but this is Star Trek not Aion....why are we copying an eastern style of MMO with grinding endlessly to get new rewards....where is the fun in this? can cryptic not find a better way to earn items.
Shattered promises....I recall It being said we would not Notice a whole lot of difference in our gameplay with the free to play conversion....yet this is beginning to feel a lot like SWG when the NGE went live....
the more I see the more im unhappy with my favorite game...I have never let my sub die since this game has come out....and thankfully never bought a lifetime Sub though for the first time....I am beginning to question Star treks future under cryptic and starting to wonder if the string of bad judgement means it's time to move on.
thanks for reading.
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Although MY greatest issues are with the ecomomy. Wich, of course, involves the ship-purchase issue.
1. I kinda like what they've done with the levelling path here. They've made it a lot clearer for new players and it does hand hold them through the content... but yes, right now it is too restrictive. I'd like to see the Fronts broken down a little further in to specific quest chains if possible, that way if you get stuck, you can move on to a new quest chain. I'd also like to see the different Fronts unlock via level rather than by completing the previous one. I honestly don't think it'll be too confusing for new players if the Romulan front were to unlock at say... level 19, regardless of if they've completed the Klingon front or not.
2. Yeah, this is a definite problem... I can kinda see where they're going with this as they want to encourage people in to buying the +1 ships off the C-store, but honestly, for gold members, it's unacceptable in it's current form. I think what they should do is to give gold players the free ship token as they used to, and give silver players the Dilithium stipend. Gives more incentive to subscribe.
3. Agreed 100%. If I had my way I'd say delay the f2p launch until the klingon faction was fully fleshed out. The game will earn much more money, recognition and players (not to mention more equal PvP numbers) in the long term by doing this than by relaunching the Klingons a few months down the line after the F2p launch. That ship has sailed unfortunately
4 and 5. I don't really have a problem with dailies and grinding... too a point. The big problem right now is that there's too few options for earning dilithium right now, and too many hard caps on those options, meaning that you have to grind through multiple routes to earn any sort of amount of dilithium.
The way Dilithium is handed out currently is far too inconsistent and seriously need rethinking. What the devs should be aiming at is having Dailies giving refined Dilithium while activities that granted Marks/badges on live should grant Dilithium Ore. With a cap on refinement it means that someone can build up as much ore as they like, during whichever activity they like, but can't flood the market.
The Devs also need to take a serious look at Endgame and STF loot. Right now, on the test server it's much easier to grind STFs to equip your ship than to bother with grinding Dilithium. Dilithium as a currency pretty much becomes pointless at endgame. Hopefully they can take another look at this and find a proper balance without throwing overly restrictive measures on to STFs like long cooldowns or inflating the prices of STF loot.
Id they would listen to the feedback someone would have opened the DOS-BOX on tribble and typed Format C: and startet the whole f2p concept new from the scratch.
Or however that works on servers. No f2p-relatet change doesnt suck.
And those are obviously people who stayed with the game not only for a 3/4 year of content drought, like fed players, but for a whole running time without content.
There was clearly put a lot of efford even scaring that loyal players away.....
I think there's way too many changes to things that were never even really mentioned by the community and not enough changes to things we actually griped about.
I agree with all your points but the one that bothers me the most is the KDF issue. It's almost like they're avoiding getting a decent KDF playerbase, which I know doesn't make any sense at all, but that's just how I feel.
i dont mind them trying to make the economy work, and dilitium is a cool way to do it. however, making us do dailys just to get ships as we level is a bit over the top... my idea is that all non plus 1 ships should be available the same way they were, and all plus ones should be dilitihium, and if youw ant it, you grind for it...
the problem with the new system is we are not given many "choices" or "freedoms" in how we level, obtain new ships, and blah blah blah...
i think the biggest problem i see here is that they are trying to rework the game for the new players, and not paying attention to the current/players who have been playing the game since the begining. cryptic and a perfect world seem to think that they are going to get this massive influx of people when they go free to play. i do not see this happening on such a grand scale.. i see some peeps who were fed up with the game coming back, and i see maybe a few thousand more coming in who have never tried it, but star trek is not for everyone, i think they either alienated, or have most of the star trek fan base out there.. someone who is not into startrek is not gonna pick the game up because it is free to play... this is why i think it is such a mistake to alienate the current clientel... i can say that i am suprised to see that almost all of the posters in the forums all speak with the same voice on this.. even the "fan boys/girls" are not fully liking the changes.. ive never seen the forums so united over one issue, which should be heard loud and clear by the devs and cryptic. however, they seem to be pushing this forward one way or the other...
i will agree that i think this f2p launch and dstahl leaving are directly related... i listened to several interviews and in each of them he said that c store prices would drop, and now not even 3 weeks later, they are all higher... almost everything he outlined for us, is being introduced the opposite of how he explained it... im not going to say that he knew this was gonna happend, but i think he knew it had the chance... ill bet cryptic put a plan on the table, and pw put their own plan on the table, and he knew what was gonna happen.
its a shame, this game was starting to look like a fully fleshed mmo, and now its starting to look more like a flop.. since star trek is a passion of mine, i hope that they get it right, but i feel less optamistic than i ever have before...
This game is a cash-cow for other projects and has been for some time. They will generate sales from new purchases from the sheeple that will flood in, pump it into those other projects and strip this game down until you can't leave ESD without buying a permit of some sort - with points.
Watch.
then i try holo and find
1. that we are rail roaded into missions
2. you can't afford to Equip your ship and after LTC you can't afford the ship ( thats right can't afford the ship your in the federation that abolised money over 400 years ago) so now the federation has become Dilithum ferengi's.
3. the Doff system. ok can't recruit doffs i have used my C store sifen on more Doff's so that i can maybe get to the 3rd tier to get teh reward.
4. there is a chance after i have worked up to 51 and done all this i'll lose the character when the wipe the system is that really worth only having fed rewards for getting the 51 and then having to go throught the klingons and suffer there leveling to get the same thing for there side. Really, your kidding right.
5.Refining Dilithium: again this makes no sense setting a limit to refining ore maybe limit refining on your ship but if your on a space station you should be able to refine as much as you want. looking at the maths on the form to get enough ore refined to outfit a VA ship and Away team will take 400 days. thats not including the time it takes to earn the ore required, which unlike the old merits you don't get each mission only throught Grinding dailies
6. STF these are now more annoying as you can't guarantee that you will get any salvage to work towards your new STF rewards. which means playing the STF's over and over and over again till you get enought salvage to turn into requisitions that can then buy one part of the kit.
7. The lack of energy credits, playing on the tribble server i have noticed that i'm lacking energy credits, on Holo i didn't have much only 2 million credits spread over 6 characters so far on tribble i've managed to pull together 12,000 EC's. it seems like missions are missing EC's and (merits)Dilithium now. so you only get XP and a item. which in most cases won't help you outfit your ship or away team.
8. The lack of Dilithium: with this being the thing that Buys BO, training, ships, Ground and Ship eqiupment, you would think there was more ways to get the stuff. i know this is linked to 1, 5 and 7 slightly
Same.
Spin up the slipstream drive and set course for a galaxy far, far away.
- Who break Exploration with every patch
- havent fixed certain bugs since game went live
- make pay 2 win ships and even admit they`re overpowered (Stoked Interview Al Rivera)
- put gamechanging stuff on the cstore while saying they wont
- double Cstore prizes (Excelsior if u take both versions) while saying theyll drop
- make u pay for being their betatesters ....twice !!!
- telling u they wont take away what u have, then reduce Aegis Set tier
- TRIBBLE over Crafting... by accident (how does that happen, QA anyone ?)
cant see why u would
I say we shall all do as the Stahl did and run for the hills while their is still time
I'm approaching that point quickly.
I'd like to hope I never reach it, but it sure looks like I'll have to eat my hat and admit that things are going down the torpedo tubes.
I just reached it few days ago.
I probably won't be around for long. Once awhile, I may get on just to chat with few friends unless they start charging dilithium for it. :P
And as much as I love the DOFF system, when I see DOFF packs that you can buy, I can't help but think that they only designed it so they can sell you more stuff on the C-store.
I'm really afraid hat things are different for real this time.
Every time things looked a bit bad in the past I had something good I could point to.
And it usually turned out, at very least, ok.
And some people stood with me in defense of hope.
Now I'm not sure I've seen anyone who is standing in defense of the coming changes.
I certainly am not.
That should be enough of a wake-up call to the devs to put the brakes on this train and seriously reconsider.
At the very least they need to directly vocally address all of this.
ASAP.
i was someone that would give my oppion all the time good or bad but not i can't see that much good and a lot of bad. i'm also worndering if Cryptic are even listening to the player base at all, so i'm with you on the Dev's needing to address the player base.
Not sure we can solely lay this at sdeangelo's feet, there's simply too much here for that timespan - no, this one has dstahl written all over it.
Sounds just like me.