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Past SWTOR and GW2 relase era... What does it have to be for you to remain in STO?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited December 2011 in Ten Forward
Hy there,
I wondered since the release of Season 4 how STO should hold a lot of it's customers, while the release of SWTOR and GW2. The 2 MMO's are going to have a huge impact on the genre, no doubt about it.
Beside this, I really was very disapointed with the Season 4. For my understanding this should've been THE reason why we should futher subscribe to STO. Sadly, I don't see really one. -Shootermode, well nice, but nothing fancy, and totally no reason for me to subscribe(the mode is still to ichy and doesn't fill whole). New ground weapons... wellt hose are nice, but to less to make a stand an beeing called a Season patch. Doff's, FE's, ... we never saw those. At the bottom line, at the release of Season 4 there was no major patch, which changed anything.:confused:

Please feel free to answer to the title, or to my opinion, or whatever.


For me, STO has to get some major revmaps of some game mechanics AFSP.
The most disapointed mechanics for me here in the game are the
  • Sector Block Barriers
    (They are already onto it. So, that, s a good start)
  • Discovery Sectors
    Those should be changed to nebulas, with normal entry points as for Briar Patch, Badlands, Khales expanse(<-exatly that kind of entrance!!) or any other planetary system.
  • Harvesting system
    I so darn hat this wave pattern. The first 10.000 times there was fun, but now I just want to throw. ...Yes I have some own ideas for my own, but everything would do by now.:D
  • R&D
    shouldn't it be called OMG? - The actual R&D is boring and not challenging at all
  • some sort of economic system
    this is thight bound to the R&D by the way. If someone could build some rare parts, he could push the economy. -I know, Star Trek is not about economy, but just a little push would be great. Nothing fancy, but even this would improve the fun.
  • Doff's
  • more Storyline Missions
  • Fixing and improving the Foundry
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I personally think SW:TOR is being hyped up beyond anything. If I decide to play it, it will be well after a year to see how content has developped. Something tells me this is going to be a PvP game, and PvP in a RPG-PvE game makes zero sense to me. If I want to go around just to fight other players I'll play a FPS, RPGs are supposed to have storylines that give the character(player) purpose other than to "take this and shoot that"

    As for GuildWars2, I was never impressed with the first game and even have a few nicknames for how bad that game model is, I can't see how they managed a sequel.

    All in all I think people will try it but blizzard will still manage to pull people in with their next expansion and diablo 3. I personally, will stay with the games I have already (STO WoW CoD) and I will stay with Star Trek because Cryptic actually listens to the player base to the best of their ability, where other companies make changes no matter how it effects the player base.

    TL: DR verison SW:TOR is being hyped up and GW1 sucked so GW2 won't be good either.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    reon wrote: »
    I personally think SW:TOR is being hyped up beyond anything. If I decide to play it, it will be well after a year to see how content has developped. Something tells me this is going to be a PvP game, and PvP in a RPG-PvE game makes zero sense to me. If I want to go around just to fight other players I'll play a FPS, RPGs are supposed to have storylines that give the character(player) purpose other than to "take this and shoot that"

    As for GuildWars2, I was never impressed with the first game and even have a few nicknames for how bad that game model is, I can't see how they managed a sequel.

    All in all I think people will try it but blizzard will still manage to pull people in with their next expansion and diablo 3. I personally, will stay with the games I have already (STO WoW CoD) and I will stay with Star Trek because Cryptic actually listens to the player base to the best of their ability, where other companies make changes no matter how it effects the player base.

    TL: DR verison SW:TOR is being hyped up and GW1 sucked so GW2 won't be good either.

    I do respect your opinion, but your informations are not acurate about SWTOR and GW 2. Both have sonething very special and fresh to offer. The SWTOR is going to be the MMO version of KotoR. Very immersive. The Dev's meant this more than once. PVP is not such a big deal to them and some decisions are already bad taken by the MMO PVP Communities, who belived that they can be kewl Jedy in Arenas pawning other blackshaddow Jedy in SWTOR.

    As for GW2 this is going entilely another path as GW1. I totally agree with you, that GW1 was wery...let's call ist special.;) GW2 is going to be interesting in fighting mechanics and quest mechanics. Beside this, it is going to be very immersive as well and an entire open instanced world (something like WOW without dedicated instaces, but phasing).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    To me, this all really depends on how well STO will be developed by the time GW2 comes out. Since GW2 is using a one-time purchase + store model, I can afford to fit STO into my budget. If I am extremely unsatisfied with STO by that time, I'll probably drop it. But I don't really see that happening if Cryptic stays dedicated to improving STO and making into the game they really want it to be.

    As for SWTOR, meh. The phrase "A polished TRIBBLE is still a TRIBBLE" comes to mind... :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    a decent balance between all ships and classes.

    aka make them al ld othe same but in different fashion.

    do not pre gimp things so that the arbitrary healer/sponge/dps-nuker can apply just to serve a minority of players who cannot possible live without such constraints.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    To me, this all really depends on how well STO will be developed by the time GW2 comes out. Since GW2 is using a one-time purchase + store model, I can afford to fit STO into my budget. If I am extremely unsatisfied with STO by the time, I'll probably drop it. But I don't really see that happening if Cryptic stays dedicated to improving STO and making into the game they really want it to be.

    As for SWTOR, meh. The phrase "A polished TRIBBLE is still a TRIBBLE" comes to mind... :rolleyes:

    I do somekind feel the same. Actually I love STO, but the darn game is not immersive enough for me to get me involved playing it longer than some moth's than droping it in the corner. It is the first MMO I love and get bored to death as well. It drives me mad, while I compare the posibilites, STO could actually give us, and they don't.

    At this moment I am not very exited any longer about SWTOR... however I was some moth ago, until I found some informations that blew the game for me. Still SWTOR directly compared to STO is going to win the race for me as a customer. Same thing with GW2, or Terra, Hidden World, etc. (a lot of other MMO's are going to come in the near future)-As long as I won't get implicated into the game and into my avatar's "life" in STO any other MMO would win this race. And this is sad for me.
    I'd might be a lot of critical with Cryptic, but at the bottom line, they are great developers, who did some great issues in STO. This makes it even harder.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I don't trust Bioware after Dragon Age 2, and from what i've seen, TOR just doesn't do if for me. Won't play GW2 at all, tbh.

    What STO needs, imo? More canon interiors, more missions, and more flexibility at t5.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I don't want to say 'In order for me to stay....' because I'm a guild leader. I can't just up and drop the game. But I'd expect to see more content, monthly FEs, new PvP Maps and games, and maybe some more In Character information and development from the Devs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Macumba wrote:
    ........I wondered since the release of Season 4 how STO should hold a lot of it's customers......

    Yes, they will do it by going F2P.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I love Star Trek - Staying Here because Star Trek is better in my opinion.

    I don't like fantasy as much as Sci Fi - Staying because I won't get GW2 right away if ever.

    George Lucas, SWG closing down, and Clone Wars Star Wars style TOR - Staying because Lucas can take TOR and [ Edited due to Content] . it was TRIBBLE closing down SWG. they have a dedicated community. small, but dedicated to the game. The Devs were doing a great job of fixing the mess from what happen ( Lucas, and SOE fault because they wanted to tap into the WOW player base ) the devs had many plans, and updates for the game in the future. But Lucas had to pull the rug in my opinion to force us all to upgrade. But I guess he is getting what he wanted. WOW Wars... Lucas, Sulu wishes to have a word with you.

    That being said. I don't see much that will rip me away from this game, unless they really go off the deep end before my sub is out in October, but with perfect worlds taking control. I can see some good things coming. it makes me happy.

    OP I am not to worried about those game. We have some really good things going for us, and we will survive them being released.

    Oh sorry about the rant. the SWG thing has me bugged. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Since neither game interestes me, i will be right here. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Alexraptor wrote: »
    Since neither game interestes me, i will be right here. :p

    Same.

    Bioware and EA ruined Dragon Age 2, imo. Lucas Arts helped destroy SWG.

    TOR is connected to, developed by, or influenced by all parties...

    Not interested in the other.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Neal wrote:
    Yes, they will do it by going F2P.
    Come on, not here as well. There are just some billion other threads who have this conversation.
    But to give you a proper answer. I really don't belive Cryptic is going to keep it's customers by going F2P. They are just going to optimize the costs and earn relation.

    Zodi-emish wrote:
    I love Star Trek - Staying Here because Star Trek is better in my opinion.

    I don't like fantasy as much as Sci Fi - Staying because I won't get GW2 right away if ever.

    George Lucas, SWG closing down, and Clone Wars Star Wars style TOR - Staying because Lucas can take TOR and [ Edited due to Content] . it was TRIBBLE closing down SWG. they have a dedicated community. small, but dedicated to the game. The Devs were doing a great job of fixing the mess from what happen ( Lucas, and SOE fault because they wanted to tap into the WOW player base ) the devs had many plans, and updates for the game in the future. But Lucas had to pull the rug in my opinion to force us all to upgrade. But I guess he is getting what he wanted. WOW Wars... Lucas, Sulu wishes to have a word with you.

    That being said. I don't see much that will rip me away from this game, unless they really go off the deep end before my sub is out in October, but with perfect worlds taking control. I can see some good things coming. it makes me happy.

    OP I am not to worried about those game. We have some really good things going for us, and we will survive them being released.

    Oh sorry about the rant. the SWG thing has me bugged. ;)
    It's allright. That's your reason and that is why this thread is for :)


    But SWG wasn't shut down by GL, but LA. GL couldn't care less about those Expanded Universe things. If he hasn’t his fingers into it, he doesn't care. I remember some interview he got asked about Revan. He looked debuffed and asked, who is that guy? I got to laugh. GL is not interested into the Star Wars Universe as so many fans would like to. And that is ok. LA however broke a lot of things for Star Wars, but this is how it goes.

    I feel some kind the same here for Star Trek and CBS or Paramount. At some degree it is very hard for a fan of the franchise to decide what is really right. We got a lot of different timelines, and now even different parallel universes. And which company owns the rights, and which of them can be shared with Cryptic. Beside this, what is the expanded Universe of Cryptic's STO? -My opinion on this matter is, STO is a nice game, but is entirely no Star Trek. Just try to think the known names away, take the Klingons, Romulans and Feds stripped by their names; you simply got some "kill'em all" space opera. I would never recognize STO being a part of the Star trek franchise.
    To be honest to the bone, without the Foundry, and the lovely written user missions, I wouldn't come back 3 moths ago!

    IMHO I truly believe that the Foundry was the biggest masterpiece put into an MMO, and I am also very glad, it was STO! At this moment the Foundry is the only reason I play STO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Decent PvP Extensions. New maps, modes, preferably some kind of Territory Control Sector Block where battles affect your factions standing.

    Reworking Space Combat to fix several issues in regards to balance and gameplay, like making NPC fights more dynamic, reducing some of the wide variance between fully buffed and unbuffed.

    Space Exploration Revamp. Make it something that's fun, varied and gives us a feeling we are actually exploring space and discovering new stuff.

    Foundry Enhancements for PvP, map building and more art assets.

    Featured Episodes with complex story arcs, including adding more faction-specific elements to some missions or maps to encourage replay across factions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Decent and interesting PvP

    Terretorial Control

    Much more KDF stuff and content

    Real exploration aka Klingon conquest.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Zodi-emish wrote:
    I love Star Trek - Staying Here because Star Trek is better in my opinion.

    I don't like fantasy as much as Sci Fi - Staying because I won't get GW2 right away if ever.

    George Lucas, SWG closing down, and Clone Wars Star Wars style TOR - Staying because Lucas can take TOR and [ Edited due to Content] . it was TRIBBLE closing down SWG. they have a dedicated community. small, but dedicated to the game. The Devs were doing a great job of fixing the mess from what happen ( Lucas, and SOE fault because they wanted to tap into the WOW player base ) the devs had many plans, and updates for the game in the future. But Lucas had to pull the rug in my opinion to force us all to upgrade. But I guess he is getting what he wanted. WOW Wars... Lucas, Sulu wishes to have a word with you.

    That being said. I don't see much that will rip me away from this game, unless they really go off the deep end before my sub is out in October, but with perfect worlds taking control. I can see some good things coming. it makes me happy.

    OP I am not to worried about those game. We have some really good things going for us, and we will survive them being released.

    Oh sorry about the rant. the SWG thing has me bugged. ;)

    /agree - somewhat. However, LA didn't kill SWG, it was SWG (SOE Austin) and all the past mistakes that caused it to kill itself. And this is the same Esquire that has been over there for many years.

    There had been many new launches that was supposed to kill SWG and none of them ever did. The same will be true over here also. Sure, there will be some that go try the new games but new games are new games and tend to lose their "shiney" very quickly expecialy compared to a game that has post-launch development. As with SWG, the ones who like the game and gameplay will be back or just never leave in the 1st place. I have the TOR collector's edition myself but that does not mean I'll give up STO in favor of TOR, even if I do like TOR (which I have reservations about going in as an old SWG player).

    Cryptic has an opportunity here. If they try to emulate WoW, or even TOR, I doubt that style will get them much. No sence in playing a copy when you can play the original. If they start adding sandbox, etc and go on their own path of development and playstyle, they might become an alternative to both.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    SW - not interested in the IP at all. I couldn't care less about any game based on the IP.

    GW2 - same as GW1 - wasn't that interesting enough to keep my attention.

    STO - I like it. I enjoy it. I play it as the mood strikes. It's a nice theme park type of place to game and be entertained.

    I knew coming into STO way back when that it would be a theme park game to indulge in casually and not some empty sand-box or hack-n-slash or wild fantasy realm where I would have to play all day everyday just to keep up with the raiding Joneses.

    STO is not about the hardcore min-max'ers that just want to beat each other over the head.

    STO is not about the hardcore raiders that have to reach milestone after milestone of ultra-difficult-to-beat-after-years-of-grinding-endlessly type "bosses" that drop or award "epic lewtz".

    STO is about giving the player the chance to be the director and lead actor of his/her own little episode using the IP as a backdrop with the ships and uniforms as props all combined into a personal trek "where no one has gone before" across the galaxy. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    SWTOR can take a long walk off a short pier. No snorkel just walk. *PUNT*
    I am in to STO and CO for the long haul. So long as things keep rolling in I will keep logging in on a regular basis.
    10Forward is going nowhere.

    /maniacal laughter.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I will play TOR but no interest in GW.

    but I plan to stay with STO until they shut the servers and prise me off holodeck with a spatula.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Star Wars the Old Republic will have an impact on this game. There's no way around that. It's an MMO. It's sci-fi. And it has a large amount of cash invested into it.

    The developers seem to be pushing alot of new content back back back, to the autumn. Which is right around the time that TOR is supposed to launch.

    Hmmmmmmm.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Pyryck wrote:
    SW - not interested in the IP at all. I couldn't care less about any game based on the IP.

    GW2 - same as GW1 - wasn't that interesting enough to keep my attention.

    STO - I like it. I enjoy it. I play it as the mood strikes. It's a nice theme park type of place to game and be entertained.

    I knew coming into STO way back when that it would be a theme park game to indulge in casually and not some empty sand-box or hack-n-slash or wild fantasy realm where I would have to play all day everyday just to keep up with the raiding Joneses.

    STO is not about the hardcore min-max'ers that just want to beat each other over the head.

    STO is not about the hardcore raiders that have to reach milestone after milestone of ultra-difficult-to-beat-after-years-of-grinding-endlessly type "bosses" that drop or award "epic lewtz".

    STO is about giving the player the chance to be the director and lead actor of his/her own little episode using the IP as a backdrop with the ships and uniforms as props all combined into a personal trek "where no one has gone before" across the galaxy. :)
    Are we playing the same game?:confused::D
    superchum wrote: »
    Star Wars the Old Republic will have an impact on this game. There's no way around that. It's an MMO. It's sci-fi. And it has a large amount of cash invested into it.

    The developers seem to be pushing alot of new content back back back, to the autumn. Which is right around the time that TOR is supposed to launch.

    Hmmmmmmm.
    At first I thought the same, but then I realised, heck, this is not going to work, because I have NOW already my preoder to SWTOR...uuups, bad choice STO you'll definetely lose me at least for one month again.

    The thing is, why sould "I" return to a game, that was not willing to be what it let me expected to be? Rhetorical question of an random user. We allways got the same answer, "soon we will..." yes right, always soon, until other MMO's will come out and then there is to late!
    Some people are not LTA's they still have the choice (TO be honest, you LTA's paid anyway for the game wheter you play it or not, you can't really make a stand). And this choice rises and falls with the latest endeavour of Cryptic until the releases marathon. Some people don't want new stuff, they want the elder stuff finally working out.

    I for one am some kind of these people. I do want as well to replay the game and finally fully understand what is all about plaing "thatguy" flying in "thatship". I want to be motivated scanning 5 or killing 5. -Why the heck, should I do this, if there is no good immersive reason? Etc. And why do I spend so much mones into my outfit if no other player really noticed it / has alsmost no oportunity to see it?
    I really have a lot of issues, however the parts that are in the game are not bad, but far from their real potential. And the question is, why? Why does STO always have to look halfbaked? STO should've been THE most popular Space Opera MMO around... still we are not, but EVE Online, and soon, well not even be No.2, but fall to No.3. Something is going terribly wrong!
    STO got one of the potent MMO engines, with huge posibilities to adapt for the future. It has a dedicated developers crew and a strong fanbase. Still the game bobs up and down somwehere lost in the MMO Nirvanna.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Pyryck wrote:
    SW - not interested in the IP at all. I couldn't care less about any game based on the IP.

    GW2 - same as GW1 - wasn't that interesting enough to keep my attention.

    STO - I like it. I enjoy it. I play it as the mood strikes. It's a nice theme park type of place to game and be entertained.

    I knew coming into STO way back when that it would be a theme park game to indulge in casually and not some empty sand-box or hack-n-slash or wild fantasy realm where I would have to play all day everyday just to keep up with the raiding Joneses.

    STO is not about the hardcore min-max'ers that just want to beat each other over the head.

    STO is not about the hardcore raiders that have to reach milestone after milestone of ultra-difficult-to-beat-after-years-of-grinding-endlessly type "bosses" that drop or award "epic lewtz".

    STO is about giving the player the chance to be the director and lead actor of his/her own little episode using the IP as a backdrop with the ships and uniforms as props all combined into a personal trek "where no one has gone before" across the galaxy. :)


    This is by far the best summary I've heard of STO and is the sole reason why I got a Life sub. You sir /award100coolpoints
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    My wife and I will both buy and play KoToR online but not until tax time. We will get to endgame and there will most likely be nothing there and the game will go on the shelve like all the other singleplayer games like CoD and the GTA games I have. My wife will go back to her yearly sub of CoH and I will allways play STO. STO is the only true Sci-FI game on the market and I dont see anyother in the near or far future. Oh and EVE is only a spreadsheet that you have to log onto once a day to update settings and not at all in anyway do I consider it a "Game". I mean come on you cannot even controll your ship in EVE. You just press a button and watch your ship fight on it's own and hope you can win the fight lol. I never played GW1 and really doubt I will play GW2. The only other MMO I will sub to is LoTRo to get my fantasy fix or maybe EQ1 if I have the hours to invest in playing that one. I only see STO getting better and better now that PWI has bought it from Atari. I see lots of things happening to STO that will expand the game alot. And if DStal is really able to have free reign and the manpower to acomplish all the things he has suguested and has put into the Engineering Reports STO wil allways reign supreeme for me:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Being a Trekkie and never really been into Star Wars, I'm not going to wander over to TOR or GW2. The original GW was okay but honestly STO is the only MMO I have ever subbed to more than 1 month. TRIBBLE, I even went lifetime with STO because all I need is STO. I can blow up ships in space and ground is much nicer now.

    While ground combat in TOR might look better, their space stuff looks horrible compared to even stuff made a decade ago. If I wish to play something like Asteroids, then I will go play Asteroids instead. Additionally, after the disaster of DA2, my faith in Bioware has been shaken, and I've been a loyal follower of them since Balder's Gate.

    So STO just needs to exist and I will be here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Guild Wars was my first MMO and I still have fond memories of my time with it, so I will at least check out GW 2. :)

    4 things will ensure my enjoyment of SWTOR (at least for 30 days): Black Robes, Red Lightsaber, Force Lightning and a Galaxy full of victims. :D

    As for STO...I´m a lifetimer, so I loose nothing in taking a break and see how the game developes further. I still hope that the recent change in ownership will affect the game positively. Only time will tell. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    This is just a prediction based on press releases but has TOR really upped the ante as far as MMO's go? Yes we all want to know what the universe will look like. Yes we want to know what the new classes will do but given the funk of the last bits of software from SW I don't know if personally I'm sold. Shame since SW had some pretty awesome games before SWG.
    :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Sweet F.A. My lifetime sub is all thanks to TOR, that's one of the main factors in my decision to snap it up the day it was available.

    I'll play STO, TOR and from what i've read of GW2 i may even give it a bash (im burnt out of fantasy but it's heavily personalised questing system seems worth a try).

    What i'd like is a HECK of a lot more content, duty officer system, interiors (cryptic needs to either add content to them or hoy the whole content idea and make them extremely moddable, that has to happen soon, they've left that part of the game to flounder for too long)

    Most of all, i think what STO needs is a bigger team able to get these and many other things out the door at a pace thats somewhat faster than a snails.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I wil be playing SWTOR even before it is released. I can't wait. I'm a huge star wars fan, just as I am a huge Star Trek fan.

    STO is unique and SWTOR will be unique, both for different reasons. I will not stop playing STO when SWTOR comes out. I will play both. It does not have to be an either/or situation.

    I am concerned about the effect the release of SWTOR will have on STO. I see STO players posting on the SWTOR forums (as I do). I think STO really needs to do the following to remain competitive:

    1) For the love of Pete bring in a new playable faction (cough, Romulans). People desperately need something new.
    2) Update sound effects in space to be more interesting. I think they plan to update the Defiant cannons for example.
    3) Bring in a plethora of new PVP maps. I am so tired of playing the same maps for space. The universe is a beautiful place. It is inexcusable that they have not given us new PVP maps. They should especially do some open PVP maps.
    4) New ships at the T5 level.
    5) New uniform designs.
    6) Lots of voice overs. This is one of SWTOR's sellling points.

    I love STO. I am very thankful we have it to play. I want to see it succeed and will continue to be involved and give them my money. However, the Devs need to know that companies that do not change fail. Time is short and they need to get on it yesterday. Here is hoping they do! I wish the team the best with this new company. My thoughts are offered only to help, not to be overly critical, as I believe these are very talented people.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    While the most of your demands are definetely going to come, even in the near future the vioce over question is still unanswered. Especially at the point of the voiceover and dialog I find no argument, why they coose to work with popup windows. In CO the dialogue works better and are easier to comprehend. Especially this part of voiceover and acting there looks awsome. It is at this level still the same engine, built by the same company. Still there is such a huge dicrepance between the two games.

    Back on topic:
    The most of us, who are no LTA, are mostly not willing to subscribe parallel to more than one MMO. Even If we have that money, is is simply not practical, because we mostly concentrate our gameplay to one game at a time. I for one have a half month of STO and recently activated CO again. Both subscriptions are active at the moment, but I am playing CO right now and STO just stands still. It is not, that I wouldn't play STO for some negative reason, but at the moment I find CO much more entertaining. -Exactly this is a typical behavior for so many MMO gamers. If a game is much more entertaining as your elder one, you mostly will change your subscrtiption to the new one. The only reaction for the developers of the elder game is to improve mainly the game experience and to attract their former players back. This already happended here in STO with each FE and new Season. However, agains such gigants as SWTOR and GW2 it is still not enough. (It is not about compeeting with them, but to remain at least stable while they are going to be released) At least this is how I see this. But the potential is definetely here to get a much better game experience.

    As I always recur, Cryptic is a great developement studio, they have very potent staff and a one of the most powerfull and improvable engine on the whole MMO market. They are the only studio who show several times, that they can build MMO's. If they finally would fix the long term motivation problem, there is definetely hope for STO as for CO as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    The Utter contempt by which Lucas has treated the fan base I have found appauling. Not one red cent from me. Period
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Zodi-emish wrote:
    George Lucas, SWG closing down, and Clone Wars Star Wars style TOR - Staying because Lucas can take TOR and [ Edited due to Content] .
    Same.

    Bioware and EA ruined Dragon Age 2, imo. Lucas Arts helped destroy SWG.

    TOR is connected to, developed by, or influenced by all parties...

    Not interested in the other.

    Only MMO I plan on playing is the SWGEmu when/if it is ever finished.

    LucasArts - Don't trust them Enough to EVER pay for anything SW again.

    TOR - Just another WoW Clone to Me - Limited # of Classes
    Original SWG had 32 Professions - Before the LA n SOE Nerf called NGE - Never Again will a MMO have that much depth.

    As for GW2, I played GW1 and yea not that thrilling.
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