Possibly i would start an account. Its unlikely to happen thou star trek is too big of a franchise for cbs to let there hands go of it. on the other hand they maybe will give out a license?
Possibly i would start an account. Its unlikely to happen thou star trek is too big of a franchise for cbs to let there hands go of it. on the other hand they maybe will give out a license?
I'm thinking the Netflix pays CBS to produce it exclusively for Netflix. It's not like CBS is doing anything with it at the moment. And it would reopen some merchandising possibilities for CBS.
i don't know most of the scfi coming out now seems to try to fallow the battle star galactica route just look at Star gate universe, compared to the older star gate series. The company tried to reinvent the franchise and failed.
But if they could actually resurrect the series with out destroying it, I would defiantly be willing to support it. Imagine today's cg tech has to be more cost effective the what is was in the 90's? I believe that was the original killer behind many of the franchises?
I don't think they should recreate the franchise. They should keep it in the prime universe. But bring in some new writers and an actual fan of the show as executive producer and we could be trekking again.
But is that not the problem like most tv based business they usually try to reinvent a show for a younger hipper generation in order to target a larger base of the population, It would probably very difficult to recapture the original spirit of the show with today audience. Most of the special effects and story boarding/ interpersonal relationships that portrayed in the the 90's where part of its of the time and its culture. its doubtful that a modern audience would settle for what i grew up with. Look what happened to enterprise, i thought the series rocked with the more focus on action and exploration. But it was canceled by its network after the fourth season, shorty after Star Trek Nemesis bombed. its still a great deal uncertainty if a star trek series would survive in today's culture of comic book movies and reality shows.
If it was not for the the all ready 2 year old reinvented star trek movie that renewed interest in the franchise trek would have been lost for ever, and sto would have never been brought into existence.
So long as it maintains that sense of wonder that sci-fi is supposed to have and doesn't follow current Sci-Fi trends, which sexy, paranoid 20-something year olds stuck in a small box in space with nonstop terrorist allegories, faceless shape shifting doppelganger enemies that could be anyone at any time and (most importantly) sex, explosions, sexy explosions and characters exploding after sex. So long as it keeps far from those modern sci-fi trends, I'm game.
So long as it's not another prequel, I'm game. (though I wouldn't mind if it takes place along side an other series, like a story that takes place during the dominion war but isn't about DS9 and her crew, but it would be awesome to have guest appearances).
Sadly, I don't have much faith in modern sci-fi. Modern movies in general makes me mad to be perfectly honest. It's all nothing but reboots and trash. Our new idea of sci-fi is the modern day US Army vs faceless, genocidal aliens who are evil for evil's sake. No back story, no sense of wonder, just LA or NYC being razed by aliens while America saves the world. So not sci-fi. So not my cup of tea.
But then you never know they might turn out something good, I would just hate to see the franchise degenerate to the level of of an indie based series that all like to ones you find on you tube. If it bombed the franchise might never recover in the public view.
So long as it maintains that sense of wonder that sci-fi is supposed to have and doesn't follow current Sci-Fi trends, which sexy, paranoid 20-something year olds stuck in a small box in space with nonstop terrorist allegories, faceless shape shifting doppelganger enemies that could be anyone at any time and (most importantly) sex, explosions, sexy explosions and characters exploding after sex. So long as it keeps far from those modern sci-fi trends, I'm game.
So long as it's not another prequel, I'm game. (though I wouldn't mind if it takes place along side an other series, like a story that takes place during the dominion war but isn't about DS9 and her crew, but it would be awesome to have guest appearances).
Sadly, I don't have much faith in modern sci-fi. Modern movies in general makes me mad to be perfectly honest. It's all nothing but reboots and trash. Our new idea of sci-fi is the modern day US Army vs faceless, genocidal aliens who are evil for evil's sake. No back story, no sense of wonder, just LA or NYC being razed by aliens while America saves the world. So not sci-fi. So not my cup of tea.
But if they could actually resurrect the series with out destroying it, I would defiantly be willing to support it. Imagine today's cg tech has to be more cost effective the what is was in the 90's? I believe that was the original killer behind many of the franchises?
A bad budget doesn't kill a show. Bad writing does. That's why Enterprise failed; it had crappy writing despite having better graphics than TNG. Bring in some good writers and even with a modest budget, they could make a great new series.
We have established in canon that Hobus explodes. TNG, DS9, and VOY all lasted seven years. Base the first season of the series three years before Hobus and explore the circumstances around that explosion.
B movies are all well and good. But when I think B movie I think a campy movie that has to choose story and flavor over special effects budget. These movies clearly choose special effects and TnA over plot, substance, and anything else that requires more than 30 brain cells to enjoy.
A B movie is made by people who enjoy their craft with heart and soul. Movies like Battle: Los Angeles and Sky Line are designed to feed off of people's memories of a certain tragic event that took place in recent memory and their unwaivering support for the troops. It's not supposed to be a good movie, it's just a 90 minute CGI fest that pushes all the right buttons and pulls all the right stings but ultimately isn't a good movie, the writers just know how to keep you interested.
So often star trek episodes often tend to take inspiration from real life what do you think would be really bad plot ideas mirroring today events?
I thought i list a few (Parody or just plain wrong)
The Mirror universe tales: Darker, gritter, sexier set in treks evil parallel universe what as a star ship captain join with Nausicaan pirates and Orion Syndicate trading slaves and raiding interstellar transports, for materials and tec in the Pi Canis sector of space. In order to finance a rebellion to free his people from the tyranny and slavery of an interspecies alliance.
Ferenginar and the great depression of 2230: Two Ferengi brothers try to prove that they have the lobes for business. In this rags to riches story set against the deuterium shortage of 2230 that has thrown Ferenginar into an intergalactic depression that leaves most of Ferengi Alliance in an economic slump. After several failed business scams one day a old transmission was intercepted in the em band from an unknown back water of a planet and new type of business venture was discovered. Join the the brothers as they betray, back stab, and undercut anyone who get in their way to the top. Watch, laugh and cry as they launch the first subspace television game show net work The Latinum Is Right.
Sorry i seemed to run off on a tangent
B movies are all well and good. But when I think B movie I think a campy movie that has to choose story and flavor over special effects budget. These movies clearly choose special effects and TnA over plot, substance, and anything else that requires more than 30 brain cells to enjoy.
A B movie is made by people who enjoy their craft with heart and soul. Movies like Battle: Los Angeles and Sky Line are designed to feed off of people's memories of a certain tragic event that took place in recent memory and their unwavering support for the troops. It's not supposed to be a good movie, it's just a 90 minute CGI fest that pushes all the right buttons and pulls all the right stings but ultimately isn't a good movie, the writers just know how to keep you interested.
you have a point syline did not have much of a plot. but it was a on the level of robot jocks, and most of the syfy monster movie mash up. Show like snake head terror do little do spark the imagination. but there usually just fodder for the netflix que. Sometime a movie can be so bad it becomes a comedy aka Bruce Campbell army of darkness
Sometime however 30 brain cell moives can suprize you District 9 had some darker pokes at the more less pleasant aspects of humanity or even what it is to be human? OR can non humans obtain humanity?
Not really sure how you draw unwavering support for the troops out of skyline the military put up a less then 20 min fight
Not really sure how you draw unwavering support for the troops out of skyline the military put up a less then 20 min fight
Basically it's this new trend where sci-fi no longer takes place in the future, but rather next week with modern day LA or NYC being razzed by aliens with the proud, gallant and undefeatable American Military fending off the alien invasion (or in the case of skyline, what was it, true love or some TRIBBLE like that but the troops put up a good fight).
You don't need to make a good story, just nod at 9/11 by leveling a major city in a dramatic way and show the troops doing their thing and you're golden. You just need to push the right buttons and people won't notice the lack of depth. We love the troops, thus, we love seeing them kick a$$. We also love seeing the bad guys get what they deserve when our Troops get hurt or they blow up a major feature of a city's sky line.
Now a days the bulk of sci-fi seems to be Average Joes with their Average Jane girl friends in Average situations using Facebook when suddenly aliens show up and start to level the town then black hawks and predator drones show up.
What happened to the brave scientist risking his life to disarm the alien DNA bomb? What happened to the gallant space smuggler with a heart of gold who get's caught up in a war between mankind and an alien threat? What happened to Aliens who have faces and names and an objective more complex then "kill humans and level major cities in a dramatic way"? What happened to Humans having lasers and space ships or at lease a freaking moon base or Martian colony?
It's like sci-fi has become more cynical. It's like some one said "You know what, we've had sci-fi, for, like, what? 80 years now? Why don't we have lasers and warp drive yet? TRIBBLE the future, let's just have guys with M16s kill aliens and it'll take place next Thursday so people can relate to it. Besides, we're all know mankind will destroy itself in the next 10 years anyway, we'll NEVER have a moon base!"
That's me beef with modern sci-fi, it's lost it's way. It's lost it's vision. It's no longer a vision of the future where man kind has over come the problems with interstellar travel or developed large floating space colonies.
It's a shame too, because Avatar did very well. I think Avatar got it right, it's how you introduce modern issues into a fantastic scenario while telling an awesome story in a fantastic setting. I remember reading an article that said that people left the movie feeling depressed because they wanted to visit Pandora and wanted to do all that fantastic stuff. That's a problem! To me that means that the average movie goes is too use to bland TRIBBLE, we've forgotten how to dream and enjoy fantastic stories in fantastic places.
We need to start dreaming again and we science fiction has always played a big part in helping us dream.
Check the sig, it's as true today as it was when my man Issac first said it. With out the ability to envision an awesome tomorrow there's no reason to work towards it.
Now before all the Anti-JJ folks descend upon my I would like to point out that the Transformers Cartoon Orci and Kurtzman were involed in was better than the film they did so you might like it you never know.
Now before all the Anti-JJ folks descend upon my I would like to point out that the Transformers Cartoon Orci and Kurtzman were involed in was better than the film they did so you might like it you never know.
I'm down with them making an animated trek series. You CAN do a mature cartoon that welcomes younger viewers and also appeals to a mature audience (huge anime fan, I've seen it done, I know it's possible).
I've sen western cartoons do it before. I remember Batman: The Animated Series and the newer Justice League cartoons (the recent ones from Cartoon Network). Not a show for 9 year olds but for crying out loud, not everything needs to be marketed towards tweens and not every cartoon is for younger kids (*cough*cough*Simpsons*cough*cough*).
The problem, again, is while they COULD put effort into it and make it something awesome.... well it's cheaper not to and most people won't notice the difference anyway so why bother.
Yep! I've got loads of faith in modern cinema and TV! Does it show?
Now before all the Anti-JJ folks descend upon my I would like to point out that the Transformers Cartoon Orci and Kurtzman were involed in was better than the film they did so you might like it you never know.
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I'm thinking the Netflix pays CBS to produce it exclusively for Netflix. It's not like CBS is doing anything with it at the moment. And it would reopen some merchandising possibilities for CBS.
But if they could actually resurrect the series with out destroying it, I would defiantly be willing to support it. Imagine today's cg tech has to be more cost effective the what is was in the 90's? I believe that was the original killer behind many of the franchises?
If it was not for the the all ready 2 year old reinvented star trek movie that renewed interest in the franchise trek would have been lost for ever, and sto would have never been brought into existence.
So long as it maintains that sense of wonder that sci-fi is supposed to have and doesn't follow current Sci-Fi trends, which sexy, paranoid 20-something year olds stuck in a small box in space with nonstop terrorist allegories, faceless shape shifting doppelganger enemies that could be anyone at any time and (most importantly) sex, explosions, sexy explosions and characters exploding after sex. So long as it keeps far from those modern sci-fi trends, I'm game.
So long as it's not another prequel, I'm game. (though I wouldn't mind if it takes place along side an other series, like a story that takes place during the dominion war but isn't about DS9 and her crew, but it would be awesome to have guest appearances).
Sadly, I don't have much faith in modern sci-fi. Modern movies in general makes me mad to be perfectly honest. It's all nothing but reboots and trash. Our new idea of sci-fi is the modern day US Army vs faceless, genocidal aliens who are evil for evil's sake. No back story, no sense of wonder, just LA or NYC being razed by aliens while America saves the world. So not sci-fi. So not my cup of tea.
A bad budget doesn't kill a show. Bad writing does. That's why Enterprise failed; it had crappy writing despite having better graphics than TNG. Bring in some good writers and even with a modest budget, they could make a great new series.
We have established in canon that Hobus explodes. TNG, DS9, and VOY all lasted seven years. Base the first season of the series three years before Hobus and explore the circumstances around that explosion.
B movies are all well and good. But when I think B movie I think a campy movie that has to choose story and flavor over special effects budget. These movies clearly choose special effects and TnA over plot, substance, and anything else that requires more than 30 brain cells to enjoy.
A B movie is made by people who enjoy their craft with heart and soul. Movies like Battle: Los Angeles and Sky Line are designed to feed off of people's memories of a certain tragic event that took place in recent memory and their unwaivering support for the troops. It's not supposed to be a good movie, it's just a 90 minute CGI fest that pushes all the right buttons and pulls all the right stings but ultimately isn't a good movie, the writers just know how to keep you interested.
I thought i list a few (Parody or just plain wrong)
The Mirror universe tales: Darker, gritter, sexier set in treks evil parallel universe what as a star ship captain join with Nausicaan pirates and Orion Syndicate trading slaves and raiding interstellar transports, for materials and tec in the Pi Canis sector of space. In order to finance a rebellion to free his people from the tyranny and slavery of an interspecies alliance.
Ferenginar and the great depression of 2230: Two Ferengi brothers try to prove that they have the lobes for business. In this rags to riches story set against the deuterium shortage of 2230 that has thrown Ferenginar into an intergalactic depression that leaves most of Ferengi Alliance in an economic slump. After several failed business scams one day a old transmission was intercepted in the em band from an unknown back water of a planet and new type of business venture was discovered. Join the the brothers as they betray, back stab, and undercut anyone who get in their way to the top. Watch, laugh and cry as they launch the first subspace television game show net work The Latinum Is Right.
Sorry i seemed to run off on a tangent
you have a point syline did not have much of a plot. but it was a on the level of robot jocks, and most of the syfy monster movie mash up. Show like snake head terror do little do spark the imagination. but there usually just fodder for the netflix que. Sometime a movie can be so bad it becomes a comedy aka Bruce Campbell army of darkness
Sometime however 30 brain cell moives can suprize you District 9 had some darker pokes at the more less pleasant aspects of humanity or even what it is to be human? OR can non humans obtain humanity?
Not really sure how you draw unwavering support for the troops out of skyline the military put up a less then 20 min fight
Basically it's this new trend where sci-fi no longer takes place in the future, but rather next week with modern day LA or NYC being razzed by aliens with the proud, gallant and undefeatable American Military fending off the alien invasion (or in the case of skyline, what was it, true love or some TRIBBLE like that but the troops put up a good fight).
You don't need to make a good story, just nod at 9/11 by leveling a major city in a dramatic way and show the troops doing their thing and you're golden. You just need to push the right buttons and people won't notice the lack of depth. We love the troops, thus, we love seeing them kick a$$. We also love seeing the bad guys get what they deserve when our Troops get hurt or they blow up a major feature of a city's sky line.
Now a days the bulk of sci-fi seems to be Average Joes with their Average Jane girl friends in Average situations using Facebook when suddenly aliens show up and start to level the town then black hawks and predator drones show up.
What happened to the brave scientist risking his life to disarm the alien DNA bomb? What happened to the gallant space smuggler with a heart of gold who get's caught up in a war between mankind and an alien threat? What happened to Aliens who have faces and names and an objective more complex then "kill humans and level major cities in a dramatic way"? What happened to Humans having lasers and space ships or at lease a freaking moon base or Martian colony?
It's like sci-fi has become more cynical. It's like some one said "You know what, we've had sci-fi, for, like, what? 80 years now? Why don't we have lasers and warp drive yet? TRIBBLE the future, let's just have guys with M16s kill aliens and it'll take place next Thursday so people can relate to it. Besides, we're all know mankind will destroy itself in the next 10 years anyway, we'll NEVER have a moon base!"
That's me beef with modern sci-fi, it's lost it's way. It's lost it's vision. It's no longer a vision of the future where man kind has over come the problems with interstellar travel or developed large floating space colonies.
It's a shame too, because Avatar did very well. I think Avatar got it right, it's how you introduce modern issues into a fantastic scenario while telling an awesome story in a fantastic setting. I remember reading an article that said that people left the movie feeling depressed because they wanted to visit Pandora and wanted to do all that fantastic stuff. That's a problem! To me that means that the average movie goes is too use to bland TRIBBLE, we've forgotten how to dream and enjoy fantastic stories in fantastic places.
We need to start dreaming again and we science fiction has always played a big part in helping us dream.
Check the sig, it's as true today as it was when my man Issac first said it. With out the ability to envision an awesome tomorrow there's no reason to work towards it.
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Star-Trek-Animated-Series-Being-Planned-31970.html
Now before all the Anti-JJ folks descend upon my I would like to point out that the Transformers Cartoon Orci and Kurtzman were involed in was better than the film they did so you might like it you never know.
I'm down with them making an animated trek series. You CAN do a mature cartoon that welcomes younger viewers and also appeals to a mature audience (huge anime fan, I've seen it done, I know it's possible).
I've sen western cartoons do it before. I remember Batman: The Animated Series and the newer Justice League cartoons (the recent ones from Cartoon Network). Not a show for 9 year olds but for crying out loud, not everything needs to be marketed towards tweens and not every cartoon is for younger kids (*cough*cough*Simpsons*cough*cough*).
The problem, again, is while they COULD put effort into it and make it something awesome.... well it's cheaper not to and most people won't notice the difference anyway so why bother.
Yep! I've got loads of faith in modern cinema and TV! Does it show?
Only if the producers of Futurama are in charge.