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Abrams Star Trek Is Good!

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edited April 2011 in Ten Forward
Just want to see how many people agree with me that JJ Abram's Star Trek movie is good. DO YOU?

I really like it and I like the other films and series too. I don't get people's problems with it. DO YOU?

Post a reply so I can find out :p
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Personally I like everything that is part of the on-screen Star Trek in one way or another. I like all the TV series, and for the movies I like them all although some more than others but the Abrams Trek is one of the more enjoyable to me, my personal least favorite Trek things are Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (the one with "God" right? that's the one I mean.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I would be amused if this thread was locked for flaming just for the title. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Lilist wrote:
    Just want to see how many people agree with me that JJ Abram's Star Trek movie is good. DO YOU?

    I really like it and I like the other films and series too. I don't get people's problems with it. DO YOU?

    Post a reply so I can find out :p

    I was thoroughly entertained by it. The effects were great, the actors did a good enough job.

    I think a lot of people who were disappointed by it were expecting it to be a true reboot, not this alternate reality stuff. They wanted James T. Kirk to take the Enterprise on its first mission. They wanted same storyline, same characters, exploring the universe like the show or something. At least thats what the haters have led me to believe.

    Personally, I thought some of the casting choices could have been better, but still, i think it was a pretty good movie overall, tho I do prefer some of the original movies and the TNG movies to the new one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Lilist wrote:
    Just want to see how many people agree with me that JJ Abram's Star Trek movie is good. DO YOU?

    I really like it and I like the other films and series too. I don't get people's problems with it. DO YOU?

    Post a reply so I can find out :p

    Proof positive people will ask question for which they already know the answer. Also proof people will ask when the answer they seek is right in front of them. Message to JJ; Keep your star wars out of my Star Trek.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I enjoyed it. Watched it in theatres, and several times on video. I'm looking forward to the next one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    My problem is Abrams and his pet writers Orci and Kurtzman is that their collective attention span isn't very long, so they rapidly loose sight of their original concept and meander off in to drivel fairly rapidly.

    See Alias, Fringe and Lost for further details.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I liked... it wasnt horrible, but it wasnt epic either. The Orion Cadetess was its saving grace. lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It was very entertaining and fast moving. I have some minor issues with it, but it' not the end to Trek as we know as some here and there (aka haters of anything not directly or indirectly attributed to the Great bird of the Galaxy)) would suggest
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Capulet wrote: »
    Proof positive people will ask question for which they already know the answer. Also proof people will ask when the answer they seek is right in front of them. Message to JJ; Keep your star wars out of my Star Trek.

    Seconded. As a "SUMMAR BLOCK BUSTAR", sure, great film. As Star Trek... it was, Eh. mediocre. The lead-up Comic, "Countdown" is one of the very few reasons i don't discount it entirely.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I found the movie quite enjoyable and possibly revitalizing for the Trek franchise.

    I would like some more depth and science in the sequel though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Good?! Heresy!

    Actually, I thought the acting was mostly ok, although a bit over the top. But from a Trek background point of view it was pretty terrible - beaming to a shiplight years away at warp? Really? What other weapon system would you ever need?

    And the plot was full of holes. And the new Enterprise looked stupid, IMO. (The nacelles are like 50% of the ships volume, and their attachment arrangement is even worse than on the original.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    personally i really liked it. there are plot holes and maybe too many but star trek in general is littered with plot holes. they dont really take away from my enjoyment and i enjoy watching the film. i think i would have preferred they had just been a new crew. that alone would have solved many problems that people find with it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It was a good movie and I've enjoyed it.
    I waited for the DVD to come out and rented it, and to be honest I've regretted not watching it in theatre.
    I liked the casting choices and what they did with the characters.
    The only other thing I can think of is that I will be watching the next movie when it comes out. That's pretty much all I can say about it. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    You want honesty?

    ok.

    I didn't like it.

    I've stated my reasons many times over...

    I hate the design of the Enterprise.
    I hate Lens Flare

    Didn't like any of the cast choices...(Even tho I love Simon Pegg)
    Didn't like the whole Angry Vulcan, even tho the guy actually pulled off the appearance of a Vulcan.

    I'm not a big JJ Abrams fan to begin with.

    Thought the plot was a weak rehash of several episodes of Trek. Was not original or even well thought out.

    The acting was weak and felt like few cared about anything but picking up their paychecks.

    Now...there were a couple things I "DID* like about the movie.

    The Shat wasn't involved. (I really have personal issues with him. He's an arsehole)

    Um...err...Ok. Maybe there was only one thing I can recall that I liked about it right now. :/
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I have very very mixed feelings about this film.

    On the one hand yeah I found it enjoyable to watch, some of the cast choices annoyed me, (Chekov was terrible) and I hate the ship design in side and out.

    But it didn't feel like a trek film, it was missing something.

    It was kind of like the first time I watched the reimagined series of Battlestar Galactica, I hated it the first time I saw it, wasn't like the one I grew up with, but once I learned you had to kind of forget what you knew in the old series , I actually begun to enjoy the new series, so much so I have one of the costumes from it.

    This new Trek, isn't the Trek I knew and loved, I dont think i'm ever going to warm to it the way I did the new BSG, for me the actors miss something that the old crew brought together and even the TNG crew had this same thing, maybe it's because we never got to warm to them in a series as we did the others, some how the TOS and TNG crews managed to feel like family, one that i'd grown up with watching episode after episode, the new cast just didn't seem to have that same click as the others had, hell even when Data sacrifices him self in Nemesis I was a bit chocked and I hate Data!

    I would of liked to see the TNG crew have one more film,before TOS got rehashed in to an alternative timeline story, Nemesis although ok wasn't in my opinion a great film to say good bye to the TNG crew with, The TOS crew got Undiscovered Country which I thought the ending for them was brilliant, second star to the right and straight on till morning, fading away . was a brilliant and fitting end to there story, but the TNG crew just all get split up at the end and maybe the hint of a reborn Data in B4, thats about it.

    I think as a last TNG film they should of gone with the preview comic to the Abrams film, which would lead you in to the events for the alternate timeline, it was one of those things with the new film that I couldn't help but think all the way through watching that i'd missed half the film before it had even started, other than the old spocks recap there's not much to explain the before happenings to the story.....couldn't help but feel they had missed an opportunity with that one.


    Anyway those are my thoughts, I'm no film critic, it was mildly entertaining, but it wasn't a Trek film and I dont think it would of been the story Gene Roddenberry would of wanted.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011

    I would of liked to see the TNG crew have one more film,before TOS got rehashed in to an alternative timeline story, Nemesis although ok wasn't in my opinion a great film to say good bye to the TNG crew with, The TOS crew got Undiscovered Country which I thought the ending for them was brilliant, second star to the right and straight on till morning, fading away . was a brilliant and fitting end to there story, but the TNG crew just all get split up at the end and maybe the hint of a reborn Data in B4, thats about it.

    there was going to be a 5th film, and they had some of it planned out but as nemesis did so poorly at the box office it never happened, which is a shame. i would have loved to have seen one more tng movie.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Oh, wait I almost forgot about the BREWERY! Or maybe I blotted out the trauma...

    A brewery? In my Enterprise? Set phasers to 'maim'.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    maybe the hint of a reborn Data in B4.

    read countdown, theres more than a hint.

    i liked the film, but it's not at all what i'd call star trek,

    starts off with a massibe gun battle then a car chase then a fight on vulcan then a bar fight, add a small amount of story then add a comic bit with no story value, then another fight, boo hoo for spock, randomly throw the main charicter out of the airlock, another chase, then have a 70 odd year old win against a big red beast, more pointless comedy, the aweful cupcake gag, another fight, o the bad guy is going to blow up earth (with a ship thats apparently much slower than the enterprise, dispite the borgyness) and end with 3 massive fights.

    i have all the other films and as a constant, even if it's not the best, they have a story and one which can hold the audiance without violence every 2 mins

    it's exciting but not a real trek feel
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Lilist wrote:
    Just want to see how many people agree with me that JJ Abram's Star Trek movie is good. DO YOU?

    I really like it and I like the other films and series too. I don't get people's problems with it. DO YOU?

    Post a reply so I can find out :p

    LOL it spit all over the good name of Trek....not sure why Mrs Roddenberry would think Gene would like it, maybe the "togetherness factor" from the movie, but overall...made no sense in the end.

    So a self-knowing alternate universe and no temperal agents felt like changing it? :confused: Anyone from the future of JJ's Universe could easily send someone back to fix it. The BS speach Spock Prime told the young Kirk was pathetic when he [Spock Prime] asked Kirk about the rest of TOS crew and assued the timeline was trying to fix itself by bringing them all together.....

    The story was mega cheesy...really Vulcan had no real defenses so Starfleet had to come and help? And Vulcan's destruction....totally silly...was that the only thing the movie JJ wanted to focus on? "Oh no Vulcan is destroyed, completely destrying any good future [Vulcan was a key planet] and allowing some BS relationship between the punk Spock and way underaged student Uhura."

    The most hated thing from that movie which completely changed my view on TOS: Scotty KILLED Archers dog! For months I refused to watch TOS and now for the rest of my life Scott, on of my favorite characters is ruined forever in my eyes.

    The only thing that made sense was the technology upgrade....to an extent. The way the bridge looked like and I can deal with the already refit design.....but.... end of TNG era weapons....really? And why is the Enterprise 1701 the size the of Enterprise E ??? People will argue it's size, but it's obvious by just making screen comparisons with the comicbook Countdown, and just a comparison with the Kelvin (a wimpy scout ship with 800 crew members? WTF it was supposed to have around 100 or so).

    There were too many Star Wars referances too. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Wars and Trek....but JJ not being into Trek until now and being more of just a Wars fan the easter eggs were annoying: R2 units on the Federation ships, Vader being called in the rosters on Earth, speederbikes on Vulcan, Sulu's version of a lightsaber...

    And the worst part of this is that future generation will be corrupted by his films...it's already happening, everytime I'm at Vulcan in STO I see a bunch of "Why is Vulcan here?" statements and I flat out yell at whoever it is haha. But seriously, new fans will never graps "what really happened" at first which will distort Star Trek...I don't know if trying to reboot TOS instead of just making a new ship and crew to help Star Trek actually have new things was the best of choices....one can only hope JJ can redeem himself with the next film next year :(

    Well that's my opinion :p sorry if it seems ragetastic, but actually I'm pretty calm haha "Ugh everything is ok here, just a weapons malfunction...ugh...how are you...?"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Bohort wrote: »
    read countdown, theres more than a hint.

    i liked the film, but it's not at all what i'd call star trek,

    starts off with a massibe gun battle then a car chase then a fight on vulcan then a bar fight, add a small amount of story then add a comic bit with no story value, then another fight, boo hoo for spock, randomly throw the main charicter out of the airlock, another chase, then have a 70 odd year old win against a big red beast, more pointless comedy, the aweful cupcake gag, another fight, o the bad guy is going to blow up earth (with a ship thats apparently much slower than the enterprise, dispite the borgyness) and end with 3 massive fights.

    i have all the other films and as a constant, even if it's not the best, they have a story and one which can hold the audiance without violence every 2 mins

    it's exciting but not a real trek feel

    This ^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    This guy pretty much covers everything I have to say about that movie.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Eh… It was a fun movie, a lot of action. It wasn’t the best movie I’ve seen, it’s also not the best Trek movie I’ve seen, but it was a fun distraction. There was plenty about the movie I hated, but I won’t list them here except to say the whole Trek for hipsters premise was flawed from the start. Rather I’ll take the high road (to the extent possible for me) and say the movie made some of those original characters likeable for me. I am no TOS fan, in particular I hate Kirk. But new Kirk I thought was awesome. Rather than just a pompous douche, he was actually likeable and even I dare say logical at times. The same goes for Bones. In TOS he was picking fights with Spock over the stupidest ****. But this Bones was actually, I dare say, charming.
    *
    Overall the movie could have been better. But it made me interested enough to see more of this reimagined TOS crew. I thought it was ok, so I guess that means I liked it well enough.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I refuse to see that movie.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Personally, I loved the JJ movie BUT there were a couple of minor things that I found I was not comfortable about. One was the Enterprise being constructed ON the surface of the Earth rather then in space. The other being the phaser fire being more like gatling guns then the traditional phasers from just about all TV and movies.
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