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edited March 2011 in Ten Forward
I have been reading the forums for a few months now. Remember how excited we all were when the first Reman mission came out in 'what' Feb? sector space looked like ant's going to a picnic. I still see lots of ships on the maps. I really hope this game doesn't go belly up. I too am bored with the current lack of content. But can you imagine the implications for Trekdome if this game became unprofitable before year 3? There would probably be no new series TV series for a while, fewer movies. Paramount/CBS, I'm sure do keep an eye on the fan base of this game. I didn't like everything Berman and Bragga(sp?) did with Star Trek, but they did some awesome job overall. I would rather see a Berman style TV series than a JJ one right now. I liked the movie ST09, but I will feel a loss if I never get another TNG/ENTerprise spinn-off.

Well I hope this topic starts some debate, Please help make it constructive. Don't hate everything, producers and directors are just hu-mons like the rest of us. Trek is like Pizza, I can eat it every week because it has so many different visions, just don't put pineapple on it.

Thoughts...
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'd rather have a Ronald Moore series (did lots of writing and producing on DS9; the Battlestar Galactica Reboot) than a Rick Berman series (long-standing producer but the record is more inconsistent).

    I also preferred JJ's directorial and producing efforts (Trek 2009, Alias, Lost, etc.) more than Rick Berman's: Nemesis, Insurrection, etc.

    Frankly, the franchise had been running its wheels for two films and two series (though Voyager and Enterprise were good, they weren't great). The series needed new blood and outside talent to get it reinvigorated.

    This a 10 Forward discussion though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    we need a star trek online series as long as rick as banned from writting, directing, producing :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Personally I thought that Lost stunk from about 30 seconds in (which is where I stopped watching it). The absolute worst thing that could happen to Star Trek is to let the same team that did Lost do a Star Trek TV series.

    Although, surprisinglky, JJ did do a good job with the movie - but I was expecting it to be a stinker
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Personally I thought that Lost stunk from about 30 seconds in (which is where I stopped watching it). The absolute worst thing that could happen to Star Trek is to let the same team that did Lost do a Star Trek TV series.

    Although, surprisinglky, JJ did do a good job with the movie - but I was expecting it to be a stinker

    two words about jj star trek ... lense flare ... :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'd like all of them to be involved somehow, but definitely a prime-universe series.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Not exactly (a ten forward thread). The point of the thread was to help people keep an open mind about the content of this game. If Paramount figures that Trek fans are imposible to please, they might just put it on the backburner for a while. I hope people ie: trekers will continue to support Cryptic/STO. I'd rather have just-good Trek than no trek at all. So i would be upset if all the disillusioned gamers/Trekers give up on this MMO. We will not get another one for a long time if it dies. Be positive people, Cryptic is doing a good job. It might not be your perfact Star Trek game, but it's pretty dang good...yeehaw!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lufia wrote:
    two words about jj star trek ... lense flare ... :eek:
    but at least the performances were less wooden and there were fewer monster fights and dune buggy scenes.

    TNG-era had a fine cast that were better utilized in DS9 than they were in the films (barring First Contact and Frake's fine directorial work there).
    Personally I thought that Lost stunk from about 30 seconds in (which is where I stopped watching it)
    First thirty seconds of TNG's first episode is Picard walking around the ship. It's thirty seconds of establishing we're on the ship that they showed during the 2 minute credit sequence before it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    but at least the performances were less wooden and there were fewer monster fights and dune buggy scenes.

    TNG-era had a fine cast that were better utilized in DS9 than they were in the films (barring First Contact and Frake's fine directorial work there).

    if kirk had any more lights on him he'd be a x-mas tree seriously that bridge was way to bright and they didnt even darken it for combat wtf :P

    there so many things that i could nitpick from that movie besides the whole constructing a ship that cant enter orbit as far as i know on a planet
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lufia wrote:
    if kirk had any more lights on him he'd be a x-mas tree seriously that bridge was way to bright and they didnt even darken it for combat wtf :P
    Why would you darken it - there are no windows?

    What purpose does darkening the bridge serve functionally in Trek?
    Lufia wrote:
    there so many things that i could nitpick from that movie besides the whole constructing a ship that cant enter orbit as far as i know on a planet
    Kirk's dad died in a a horrific space-splosion from a giant, outclassing vessel.

    They decided - why put it in orbit on the defense perimeter and not on the ground behind the defense perimeter?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Why would you darken it - there are no windows?

    What purpose does darkening the bridge serve functionally in Trek?

    picard calls red alert and the bridge always becomes darker at least on the sovereign :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lufia wrote:
    picard calls red alert and the bridge always becomes darker at least on the sovereign :P

    But why?

    It's not like the viewscreen is literally a window (there are windows on the ship but the birdge doesn't have one).

    EDIT: I know it's a throw back to inclement conditions or combat on ships (we had red emergency lights going while encountering rough waves near Io To - or Iwo Jima as many know it as).

    However, in Star Trek, making the workplace darker on the bridge doesn't have a reason.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    But why?

    It's not like the viewscreen is literally a window (there are windows on the ship but the birdge doesn't have one).

    maybe they need the bridge darker to see all those fleshing red alert lines and such :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lufia wrote:
    maybe they need the bridge darker to see all those fleshing red alert lines and such :p

    I knew it's because they forget to upgrade to OLEDS. Silly 24th century electronics.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    darkening the bridge makes Picard look more devious when he hails the enemy, he holds a flashlight under his chin and pretends he's a klingon
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    But why?

    It's not like the viewscreen is literally a window (there are windows on the ship but the birdge doesn't have one).

    EDIT: I know it's a throw back to inclement conditions or combat on ships (we had red emergency lights going while encountering rough waves near Io To - or Iwo Jima as many know it as).

    However, in Star Trek, making the workplace darker on the bridge doesn't have a reason.

    Psychological effect maybe? At the very least, it would cut down on the glare reflected off the panels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Antimater wrote:
    darkening the bridge makes Picard look more devious when he hails the enemy, he holds a flashlight under his chin and pretends he's a klingon
    Unfortunately, Klingons are portrayed like that too often in STO (especially that KDF trailer from before launch).

    They're not space bullies. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Drakkos wrote:
    Physiological effect maybe? At the very least, it would cut down on the glare reflected off the panels.
    The only reason i could think of is that red lights are easier on the eyes for adjusting to night vision. So, if the power went out - it might serve a purpose on the ship.

    My only thought is: Geordi was blind and piloting the whole ship. What do the flashing red lights do to his vision during red alert?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i'm sure Vulcan ships use no such mood lighting on the bridge. Maybe a Vulcan series or better yet a Klingon mini-series would be cool. Either way I hope STO grows and prospers so I have it to look forward to every week. I'll be here untill the servers go offline.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Antimater wrote:
    i'm sure Vulcan ships use no such mood lighting on the bridge. Maybe a Vulcan series or better yet a Klingon mini-series would be cool. Either way I hope STO grows and prospers so I have it to look forward to every week. I'll be here untill the servers go offline.
    It wasn't until Moore did more writing that the Klingons became more interesting for me (i.e. DS9).

    I hope Klingons are in the next JJ movie.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I hope Klingons are in the next JJ movie.

    Same :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    he'll butcher the klingons just like he did the rest of star trek :P before you know it they'll be space hippies :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The only reason i could think of is that red lights are easier on the eyes for adjusting to night vision. So, if the power went out - it might serve a purpose on the ship.

    My only thought is: Geordi was blind and piloting the whole ship. What do the flashing red lights do to his vision during red alert?

    I'd imagine he'd "see" it as pulses of energy/radiation. For that matter, he'd be one of the few that could continue to operate in total darkness, as he can see beyond the visible spectrum of light

    As I think more about, It would have a psychological effect on the crew, even from most of the non-human crew. Dark = night, night means danger and deep down in the primaeval part of our brains, we would become more alert, trying to hear that saber-toothed tiger sneaking up from behind us. Then again, what do I know, I'm not a scientist, I just play one on tv.

    Ultimately, the real reason it was done was probably because some producer thought it'd look cool
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lufia wrote:
    he'll butcher the klingons just like he did the rest of star trek :P before you know it they'll be space hippies :P
    DS9 had rotund Klingonese chefs singing on harps.

    Isn't that the same thing?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    After what happened to Nemesis and Enterprise(my favorite series, which I just finished watching last night, though the finale was wtf -never happened) I hope people leaving STO will not have a big finincial impact on the game(STO), I hope the game evolves into what we all wanted in time, but if we give up on it, because of content management...who knows.
    I hope we will get to see the TNG vision of trek again
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I was kind of hoping JJ would go in a completely different direction with the new movie, but I think the both of you will be proven right.
    I'd also prefer if Moore stayed way way away from Star Trek for all time. DS9 was abysmal characterisation, and lurched from one high school romance to another interspersed with short action sequences. Moore could do a Klingon focussed series though couldn't he, ala Caprica or something; off the mainstream and delving into the history of why Klingons are so frowny. He could reuse the BSG scripts, so the Klingons could just execute each other on weeks where they can't find anyone else to fight :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Antimater wrote:
    After what happened to Nemesis and Enterprise(my favorite series, which I just finished watching last night, though the finale was wtf -never happened) I hope people leaving STO will not have a big finincial impact on the game(STO), I hope the game evolves into what we all wanted in time, but if we give up on it, because of content management...who knows.
    I hope we will get to see the TNG vision of trek again

    tng vision of trek, tos vision of trek, ds9 vision of trek, voy vision of trek ... there all outdated give us something new already
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Antimater wrote:
    After what happened to Nemesis and Enterprise(my favorite series, which I just finished watching last night, though the finale was wtf -never happened) I hope people leaving STO will not have a big finincial impact on the game(STO), I hope the game evolves into what we all wanted in time, but if we give up on it, because of content management...who knows.
    I hope we will get to see the TNG vision of trek again

    As far as I know, STO is growing. Cryptic's one of the few companies within Atari that isn't operating in the red.
    I'd also prefer if Moore stayed way way away from Star Trek for all time. DS9 was abysmal characterisation, and lurched from one high school romance to another interspersed with short action sequences. Moore could do a Klingon focussed series though couldn't he, ala Caprica or something; off the mainstream and delving into the history of why Klingons are so frowny. He could reuse the BSG scripts, so the Klingons could just execute each other on weeks where they can't find anyone else to fight
    I'll take Moore over Braga any day.

    His writing and production on DS9 and BSG solidified him as someone I look forward to.

    I, however, feel DS9 had the strongest characterization of the series.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As far as I know, STO is growing. Cryptic's one of the few companies within Atari that isn't operating in the red.

    red is such a lovely colour though just not when its on a balance sheet
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Lufia wrote:
    he'll butcher the klingons just like he did the rest of star trek :P before you know it they'll be space hippies :P

    I don't want him to do that, however some would say that the klingons are better now than in TOS, I agree. I think JJ is doing Roddenberry justice, I think he would like the movie. He wasn't a hater.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Antimater wrote:
    I don't want him to do that, however some would say that the klingons are better now than in TOS, I agree. I think JJ is doing Roddenberry justice, I think he would like the movie. He wasn't a hater.
    I think Spock's portrayal and conflicted nature (a commentary on the modern human) - mixed with solid performances all around would be something Gene would like. He originally pitched Stark Trek as "Wagon Train in space."
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