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edited March 2011 in Ten Forward
in the episode "These are the voyages..." of Enterprise, the speech that archer does at the end (which we didnt get to hear...) was that the founding of the Federation, or did that just pave the way? I'm a little confused!
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    if i remember correctly the last episode was set moments before they founded the federation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    if i remember correctly the last episode was set moments before they founded the federation.

    Thats what im thinking, that was the founding of the Federation, I'm just wanting to double check my canon facts with all the other trekkies out there.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Uneasybbj wrote: »
    Thats what im thinking, that was the founding of the Federation, I'm just wanting to double check my canon facts with all the other trekkies out there.

    It was, that's why Riker was replaying it on the holodeck.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The moment that all of Enterprise should have been building to from the start, yet they dallied three seasons with the time war BS and even after that, the cast and crew that labored dutifully (and well, given the TRIBBLE material they were usually handed) doesn't even get the basic respect of shining on its own during the big finale.

    ugh.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Uneasybbj wrote: »
    in the episode "These are the voyages..." of Enterprise, the speech that archer does at the end (which we didnt get to hear...) was that the founding of the Federation, or did that just pave the way? I'm a little confused!

    Yes, that was the founding of the United Federation of Planets. It's the reason that "These Are the Voyages..." is set in 2161--the year the Federation was established--several years after the rest of the series.

    (At the risk of complicating the issue I will add that there is, rather annoyingly, some sticky episodic dialogue that gives them a continuity loophole if ever they should need it on this matter. I seem to recall Troi saying something about Archer's speech "paving the way for the Federation.")
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Worst episode in Trek history :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SupAJ1M wrote: »
    Worst episode in Trek history :eek:

    "Shades of Gray" is worse. But not by much.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SupAJ1M wrote: »
    Worst episode in Trek history :eek:
    The entire series was poorly done, so what did you expect?

    At least they did the Andorians well.
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