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Before Q - 3 difficult trekkie questions.

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edited March 2011 in Ten Forward
In the TNG episode "[URL="http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Chase_(episode)]The Chase[/URL]" Picard and "others" encounters an image of there common (4 billion year old) ancestors, who explains they where alone in the milkyway and thus spread there own DNA trueout the galaxy in hope of everyone had become friends and stuff :p

My questions therefor is.
1. Where is or was Qs?
2. Shouldnt they have encountered em, or does the Qs have limits to how far back in time they can go?
3. And this raises another question, WHEN did the Qs first appear?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As far as I know, the Q never said they were native to the Milky Way. They may have encountered them but hid their true nature and instead took the form of the Preservers. Q has gone back in time to the Big Bang so they shouldn't have any temporal (or spatial) limitations.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Could it then be posible that petunia has set limitations upon the Qs?
    Oh and i recall correctly, There have been more then one big bang in the "star trek universe", right?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Q is self admitted omnipotent. Meaning he is everywhere and yet nowhere, though can appear where or whenever and as whatever he wants.

    It is possible there was interaction between them that we do not know about, it is possible that the Q had simply no direct interest in them or decided to watch what may have been the first sentient race evolve and what course it would take.

    Question I want to know is in what order the T'kon empire and Iconians appeared and disappeared and were the Preservers at all present?

    With what the Romulan featured episodes set us up for, with the help of what the Breen set us up for I am willing to wager that the Preservers will serve a role in helping us beat back the Iconians, since some were in stasis (see last level of the Breen featured series) and since we saw in limited form the T'kon empire do the same in TNG (Riker and Damon Tog the Ferangi had a discussion with one) We may, though unlikely, see them play some small role too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Question I want to know is in what order the T'kon empire and Iconians appeared and disappeared and were the Preservers at all present?

    With what the Romulan featured episodes set us up for, with the help of what the Breen set us up for I am willing to wager that the Preservers will serve a role in helping us beat back the Iconians, since some were in stasis (see last level of the Breen featured series) and since we saw in limited form the T'kon empire do the same in TNG (Riker and Damon Tog the Ferangi had a discussion with one) We may, though unlikely, see them play some small role too.

    According to the Star Chart maps, the First Humanoids were predominant in the Gamma Quadrant 4 billion years ago.

    The T'kon Empire was prevalent 600,000 years ago in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants. Iconia was in the Beta Quadrant and lost power 200,000 years ago.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    GISP wrote:
    My questions therefor is.
    1. Where is or was Qs?
    2. Shouldnt they have encountered em, or does the Qs have limits to how far back in time they can go?
    3. And this raises another question, WHEN did the Qs first appear?

    I kept thinking that the Q would be revealed as humans of the future. ;) Like 40,000 years in the future. The Q might just time travel back to times they're interested in and stay there.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    hort_wort wrote: »
    I kept thinking that the Q would be revealed as humans of the future. ;) Like 40,000 years in the future. The Q might just time travel back to times they're interested in and stay there.

    Voyager showed us that the next stage in human evolution is slugs. Giant amphibious slugs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Voyager showed us that the next stage in human evolution is slugs. Giant amphibious slugs.

    Slugs? :(
    Im now a sad panda, i dont wanna be a slug!

    got an image?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    . . . . do we have a second panda now? :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    GISP wrote:
    Slugs? :(
    Im now a sad panda, i dont wanna be a slug!

    got an image?

    Why, yes. Yes I do.
    Captain Janeway and L.T Paris as slugs.

    And this is yet another reason I fear captaining any ship in game that goes over Warp 10.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Please. Those are not slugs.

    They're newts. Huge difference (and a vast improvement if I do say so myself).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I've for some reason always suspected that the Q are what the El-Aurians are going to eventually evolve into. It doesn't explain what Guinan thought she could do to him with her claw-hands, but it would provide a good enough reason for Q not to just fingersnap her out of existence. It would also make for a plausible explanation for Q's fixation on the Borg, him trying to teach his kid not to meddle with them, and why the others don't approve of his messing with the universe at large at all. Wouldn't want to inadvertently manipulate themselves out of existence. But aside from that, once one's evolved to the point where even time no longer has any grip on you, it's prety easy to make the claim that you've always existed.

    As for the Preservers being the first, the Q might've simply never shown themselves. Theorethically, considering how many civilizations in Star Trek at some point develop time travel, there could've (and probably would've) been observers from thousands or millions of species from the milky way alone, hailing from every point along the universe's existence, studying the Preservers and taking equally great care not to reveal themselves. At the very least, they got mentioned by the Preservers about as much as the Q.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Please. Those are not slugs.

    They're newts. Huge difference (and a vast improvement if I do say so myself).

    She turned me into a newt!

    A newt?

    I got better...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    On to another thing that has been puzling me.
    Q seems to believe that humans might one day advance further then the Qs, or atleast have the potential to do so.
    Is there reason to believe that the further you travel into time, the more uncertain that timeline is the correct one?
    And Qs worries are founded in fear of what might happin in the future?... Or might not happin...

    edit: excuse me, if the questions are more then just trekkie questions and lean on a teoreticphysisistly one instead. (uhh big words - english isnt my native language - pardon my spelling)
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