while i know this info is on the c-store as of today it was not present before hand of product coming out. They have not done this action of showing the prduct info since the Glaxy X. that was my main clause you seem to miss out on. not trying to be a TRIBBLE here dude but, this information is different from dstahls answer about multi-vector mode, regardless of now a person has to buy a new ship even if you already have a prometheus. not explained in this c-store discription.
That information is missing. Also i did say that the information about ships is not in the ship area. We are playing star trek online. Not C-store online. While i know u wish to defend them i am just pointing out the clear facts. all c-store ship items and website items are not displayed or updated.
I think the problem is the op doesnt know what emblems are. he prolly knows now but when he made the initial presumption he didnt know and didnt bother to verify his presumptions.
while i know this info is on the c-store as of today it was not present before hand of product coming out.
So if I am understanding you right, you saw an item in the C-Store and impulsively clicked the "Purchase" button without really understanding what it was, or waiting for all the information on it before deciding to buy it. And since you were impatient and made an impulse purchase before having all the facts, this is somehow all Cryptics fault?
I find it amazing that people without basic reading comprehension can be permitted to command Starships.
Seriously, it was everywhere that it was for VA 1 ONLY. There was never any doubt or misleading or false advertising. It was written in plain and simple English.
The only information available on the MVAM, BEFORE IT LAUNCHED, was available in ONE THREAD
that is ONE THREAD to try and find in several different forum sections, each which may have THOUSANDS of posts. it is the proverbial needle in the haystack.
and yes, i have read every reply in this thread. i ignore the ones who are already ignoring the points I HAVE ALREADY MADE
i know what emblems are. i know how to get them. that is not the point here
I find it amazing that people without basic reading comprehension can be permitted to command Starships.
Seriously, it was everywhere that it was for VA 1 ONLY. There was never any doubt or misleading or false advertising. It was written in plain and simple English.
So if I am understanding you right, you saw an item in the C-Store and impulsively clicked the "Purchase" button without really understanding what it was, or waiting for all the information on it before deciding to buy it. And since you were impatient and made an impulse purchase before having all the facts, this is somehow all Cryptics fault?
sounds like it to me. impulse buyer comes to mind. I am somewhat of one though i dont complain if i have to wait to make the purchase.
Usually something like a sale pops up slightly after or a better version, or something i want more pops up. Or i just save money
I think the problem is the op doesnt know what emblems are. he prolly knows now but when he made the initial presumption he didnt know and didnt bother to verify his presumptions.
I could be wrong, but I believe the OP is only remembering the initial conversations the Devs posted regarding MVAM, which were that it would be a console only. The OP had not kept up with the most recent design changes to it, so when they saw it in the C-Store, they bought it immediately without really reading any of the information on it.
I can totally understand where the confusion and aggrivation comes from in that case. However, I do not believe it is Cryptic's fault that the OP made an impulse purchase without reading all the information first.
The only information available on the MVAM, BEFORE IT LAUNCHED, was available in ONE THREAD
that is ONE THREAD to try and find in several different forum sections, each which may have THOUSANDS of posts. it is the proverbial needle in the haystack.
and yes, i have read every reply in this thread. i ignore the ones who are already ignoring the points I HAVE ALREADY MADE
i know what emblems are. i know how to get them. that is not the point here
use the dev tracker then. its so easy to find the information in about 30 seconds.
all this rage for what is effectively some lost time spent on another character. 8000 skill points. what is that 5 ranks worth?
you made an incorrect assumption. the information was there. im sorry it was not splashed over the front page and that a little effort was required to click on the several links in the devs tracker about the ship you are so desperate for.
You know.....I really try not too complain about STO or Cryptic. But I feel in this case it is warranted.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but nowhere, prior to the launch of the MVAM prometheus, did Cryptic state that it would be available for VA characters only.
I had really been hoping to use it to level on my RA character, and as such, before today I had been concentrating on my klingon character.
But then the ship and it's console gets released, and despite my anticipation, I find out I have to grind out another 8000 experience.
I know this can be done easily. That's not my complaint. My complaint is the fact that Cryptic NEVER SAID that the ship would be a retrofit and be VA only.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just being irrational about it, but I don't think so.
Some better communication would be helpful next time.
They didn't have to, the prometheus was a Rear Admiral ship to begin with, why would they make this for lower levels? Hey, just look at it as incentive to play more!
Well in your case you can still happily use the Prometheus to level up to VA 1. You just cant play with MVAM until you have done so. I dont really see what the complaint here really is.
Furthermore there were infact several threads regarding the ship and the requirements to use it.
Even further. Your argument that "they did not post that information UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY PUT IT IN THERE" is completely and utterly useless to the facts. You cannot earn Emblems until VA, and why would you purchase a product without reading the description?
This is all irrelevant given the fact that it takes maybe 3 - 4 hours TOPS to get to VA from RA with moderate gameplay. The time you have wasted discussing this on the forums could have been spent in a Prometheus leveling up to VA to purchase the shiny toy you wanted bad enough to make a thread about
So if I am understanding you right, you saw an item in the C-Store and impulsively clicked the "Purchase" button without really understanding what it was, or waiting for all the information on it before deciding to buy it. And since you were impatient and made an impulse purchase before having all the facts, this is somehow all Cryptics fault?
you really dont get it do ya, never said i bought it, never said i wanted to go impulse buy it. Just said information on ships should be updated in the site. not everyone has access to the forums. The website is still broken and not updated. Do you understand this or are you just ignoring my comments in thought of placing your own words into my statements.
have you even seen the ships section of the site? see how i ask a questions and not assume something.
thanks for doing the same mr. information is everywhere and cryptic has done this in the past where they post one thing say another thing and post other information else where. and i notice no FAQ for this new ship hmmmm wonder why lol.
their March ask a question thingy was a bit off with regards to the mvam and actuality.
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that is the same thread EVERYONE has been linking. it is the ONE THREAD the developers listed it in
and for the record, i couldnt buy the damn thing. the character i wanted this for is a RA and restricted from getting it
she wouldnt have been restricted from getting it if there had been some information on the subject that you didnt have to search the damned haystack for
The C-Store page has the MVAM Advanced Escort update on it. Just like it has the Defiant Refit, Galaxy Refit, Excelsior Refit etc. The ships section of the website is for the in-game, free ships so it is in no way "broken" by not including C-Store items.
Really, the information is out there, and easily accessible... if you're unwilling to use the resources provided it's your own fault when you end up getting the wrong end of the stick.
OP Learn to research before whining about something you failed to investigate prior. The information is readily available to all players on the forums.
Like I stated earlier, go buy the RA Prometheus and get to VA instead of whining about having to be VA, just do it!
Why is this still an issue, you bought it and your not high enough yet to use it. Big deal, cryptic has better things to do with their time than post on every thread "Hey guys, go about your day knowing that the MVAM is for VA's only!" One thread is enough. No you know that you should READ the description before buying. IT WILL BE OK, I PROMISE.
Huh. Wonder how that got through the filter. Oh, well. I see this ending well. :rolleyes:
When you say 'Everywhere' what would you have LIKED to have seen? Where would you have liked to have seen these announcements, and how much effort would you have wanted to see Cryptic announce that the MVAM Prometheous was only for VA1+? (Presuming you can still answer, that is.)
ETA: In other words, how many reps and mods working for how many hours over how many threads/venues/channels (Facebook? Twitter? StumbleUpon? Gamasutra? Slashdot?) do you think it would have taken for this to be noticed, and/or sufficiently announced? Only being half-facetious here; it might be something good for Cryptic to know (if, you know, your feedback hasn't been poisoned, as is said in the polling biz.)
Possibly Cryptic can add such info as required rank to the item descriptions in the future.
Why in the future if they already did so in the past?
I really don't get the problem.
The description of the item, when you acquire it, tells you: Unlcoks for Vice Admiral characters.
I mean, I see that it is possible to buy the item without reading that information. But what place could possibly be better to inform the customer about the product he wishes to acquire then the very place you can acquire it.
It certainly cannot be a forum post. Because you might not even read the forums.
Should it be a bulletin that pops up one day randomly:"
Soon in C-Store, only for Vice Admirals: MVAM Advanced Escort
You could click over that. "Meh, stupid C-Store message, Lame, do not want"
A year ago, they said that the MVAM capability was removed/abandonded. Now it's suddenly in the game? I feel misinformed. Lied to even. Meh.
I don't think it was ever in the game, let alone said it would be implemented? But they've clearly made advances and made additions to the engine so that it's possible. How... how were you LIED to?
I don't think it was ever in the game, let alone said it would be implemented? But they've clearly made advances and made additions to the engine so that it's possible. How... how were you LIED to?
Sarcasm is hard to convey on the internet.
If you see any of my post and it seems nonsensical, hyperbolic or outright stupid, first assume sarcasm.
Huh. Wonder how that got through the filter. Oh, well. I see this ending well. :rolleyes:
When you say 'Everywhere' what would you have LIKED to have seen? Where would you have liked to have seen these announcements, and how much effort would you have wanted to see Cryptic announce that the MVAM Prometheous was only for VA1+? (Presuming you can still answer, that is.)
ETA: In other words, how many reps and mods working for how many hours over how many threads/venues/channels (Facebook? Twitter? StumbleUpon? Gamasutra? Slashdot?) do you think it would have taken for this to be noticed, and/or sufficiently announced? Only being half-facetious here; it might be something good for Cryptic to know (if, you know, your feedback hasn't been poisoned, as is said in the polling biz.)
all i have been saying, is that a simple announcement where everyone can find it(please do not give me that bs about it being in that one thread, ive already made my point on this), such as on the homepage for star trek online
all i have been saying, is that a simple announcement where everyone can find it(please do not give me that bs about it being in that one thread, ive already made my point on this), such as on the homepage for star trek online
The very first news headline on the official website is "Multi-Vector Advanced Escort in C-Store". What more would you like?
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while i know this info is on the c-store as of today it was not present before hand of product coming out. They have not done this action of showing the prduct info since the Glaxy X. that was my main clause you seem to miss out on. not trying to be a TRIBBLE here dude but, this information is different from dstahls answer about multi-vector mode, regardless of now a person has to buy a new ship even if you already have a prometheus. not explained in this c-store discription.
That information is missing. Also i did say that the information about ships is not in the ship area. We are playing star trek online. Not C-store online. While i know u wish to defend them i am just pointing out the clear facts. all c-store ship items and website items are not displayed or updated.
So if I am understanding you right, you saw an item in the C-Store and impulsively clicked the "Purchase" button without really understanding what it was, or waiting for all the information on it before deciding to buy it. And since you were impatient and made an impulse purchase before having all the facts, this is somehow all Cryptics fault?
Seriously, it was everywhere that it was for VA 1 ONLY. There was never any doubt or misleading or false advertising. It was written in plain and simple English.
The only information available on the MVAM, BEFORE IT LAUNCHED, was available in ONE THREAD
that is ONE THREAD to try and find in several different forum sections, each which may have THOUSANDS of posts. it is the proverbial needle in the haystack.
and yes, i have read every reply in this thread. i ignore the ones who are already ignoring the points I HAVE ALREADY MADE
i know what emblems are. i know how to get them. that is not the point here
and where was this information EVERYWHERE?
it was one thread. one
last i checked, thats not everywhere
sounds like it to me. impulse buyer comes to mind. I am somewhat of one though i dont complain if i have to wait to make the purchase.
Usually something like a sale pops up slightly after or a better version, or something i want more pops up. Or i just save money
I could be wrong, but I believe the OP is only remembering the initial conversations the Devs posted regarding MVAM, which were that it would be a console only. The OP had not kept up with the most recent design changes to it, so when they saw it in the C-Store, they bought it immediately without really reading any of the information on it.
I can totally understand where the confusion and aggrivation comes from in that case. However, I do not believe it is Cryptic's fault that the OP made an impulse purchase without reading all the information first.
WRONG AGAIN pay attention to the links for the love of gooblygoop.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=205261
Though cryptic is somewhat at fault.
their March ask a question thingy was a bit off with regards to the mvam and actuality.
'Hmmm, multi vector assault mo-BUYBUYBBUYBUBYUBUY' *clickclickclickclickclick*
'Yes!! I have it... now what is it?'
use the dev tracker then. its so easy to find the information in about 30 seconds.
all this rage for what is effectively some lost time spent on another character. 8000 skill points. what is that 5 ranks worth?
you made an incorrect assumption. the information was there. im sorry it was not splashed over the front page and that a little effort was required to click on the several links in the devs tracker about the ship you are so desperate for.
They didn't have to, the prometheus was a Rear Admiral ship to begin with, why would they make this for lower levels? Hey, just look at it as incentive to play more!
Furthermore there were infact several threads regarding the ship and the requirements to use it.
Even further. Your argument that "they did not post that information UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY PUT IT IN THERE" is completely and utterly useless to the facts. You cannot earn Emblems until VA, and why would you purchase a product without reading the description?
This is all irrelevant given the fact that it takes maybe 3 - 4 hours TOPS to get to VA from RA with moderate gameplay. The time you have wasted discussing this on the forums could have been spent in a Prometheus leveling up to VA to purchase the shiny toy you wanted bad enough to make a thread about
you really dont get it do ya, never said i bought it, never said i wanted to go impulse buy it. Just said information on ships should be updated in the site. not everyone has access to the forums. The website is still broken and not updated. Do you understand this or are you just ignoring my comments in thought of placing your own words into my statements.
have you even seen the ships section of the site? see how i ask a questions and not assume something.
thanks for doing the same mr. information is everywhere and cryptic has done this in the past where they post one thing say another thing and post other information else where. and i notice no FAQ for this new ship hmmmm wonder why lol.
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that is the same thread EVERYONE has been linking. it is the ONE THREAD the developers listed it in
and for the record, i couldnt buy the damn thing. the character i wanted this for is a RA and restricted from getting it
she wouldnt have been restricted from getting it if there had been some information on the subject that you didnt have to search the damned haystack for
No, it is not broken and yes, it is updated.
The C-Store page has the MVAM Advanced Escort update on it. Just like it has the Defiant Refit, Galaxy Refit, Excelsior Refit etc. The ships section of the website is for the in-game, free ships so it is in no way "broken" by not including C-Store items.
THE DEV TRACKER IS THERE FOR A REASON. USE IT!!!
:rolleyes:
Really, the information is out there, and easily accessible... if you're unwilling to use the resources provided it's your own fault when you end up getting the wrong end of the stick.
OP Learn to research before whining about something you failed to investigate prior. The information is readily available to all players on the forums.
Like I stated earlier, go buy the RA Prometheus and get to VA instead of whining about having to be VA, just do it!
It is there in the C-Store web page and you are restricted from buying it in game, what other info should be there?
Huh. Wonder how that got through the filter. Oh, well. I see this ending well. :rolleyes:
When you say 'Everywhere' what would you have LIKED to have seen? Where would you have liked to have seen these announcements, and how much effort would you have wanted to see Cryptic announce that the MVAM Prometheous was only for VA1+? (Presuming you can still answer, that is.)
ETA: In other words, how many reps and mods working for how many hours over how many threads/venues/channels (Facebook? Twitter? StumbleUpon? Gamasutra? Slashdot?) do you think it would have taken for this to be noticed, and/or sufficiently announced? Only being half-facetious here; it might be something good for Cryptic to know (if, you know, your feedback hasn't been poisoned, as is said in the polling biz.)
A year ago, they said that the MVAM capability was removed/abandonded. Now it's suddenly in the game? I feel misinformed. Lied to even. Meh.
Why in the future if they already did so in the past?
I really don't get the problem.
The description of the item, when you acquire it, tells you: Unlcoks for Vice Admiral characters.
I mean, I see that it is possible to buy the item without reading that information. But what place could possibly be better to inform the customer about the product he wishes to acquire then the very place you can acquire it.
It certainly cannot be a forum post. Because you might not even read the forums.
Should it be a bulletin that pops up one day randomly:"
Soon in C-Store, only for Vice Admirals: MVAM Advanced Escort
You could click over that. "Meh, stupid C-Store message, Lame, do not want"
I don't think it was ever in the game, let alone said it would be implemented? But they've clearly made advances and made additions to the engine so that it's possible. How... how were you LIED to?
If you see any of my post and it seems nonsensical, hyperbolic or outright stupid, first assume sarcasm.
all i have been saying, is that a simple announcement where everyone can find it(please do not give me that bs about it being in that one thread, ive already made my point on this), such as on the homepage for star trek online
The very first news headline on the official website is "Multi-Vector Advanced Escort in C-Store". What more would you like?