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Dev's and Captains- Organize to Request a New Star Trek Series

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edited March 2011 in Ten Forward
Hey everyone! Like most of you I have been really enjoying STO and think Cryptic has done a fantastic job!
Pausing for applause :o)


Now - I would love a Television Series set in the STO universe. I know Paramount is busy with Star Trek 2, and they likely view a television series not set in the alternate universe as a conflict. However, I was wondering if there is a way whether it be a petition, letters, etc, we could contact Paramount and express this interest.

Dev's - Stahl - this could really benefit the game. Imagine a television series with an active game, that is already established, and is growing a methos... Let's start casting Obsesek!
However - we could use your help. If we made the efforts mentioned above, would you present this to your paramount contacts?

The timing right now is perfect. There is currently no new scifi- based show airing in the US that is not cable based. Even long running cable based shows like Stargate have been canceled. They would have a wide open field, and since it has been such a long time, there is a pent up demand.

Thanks all for reading!:D
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    There isnt no new sci-fi anything at the mo.No new sci-fi films or Tv series.I would love a new Star trek series,especially with all the technology they have these days.Its a shame they left it so long because alot of the old actors are to old now.Man What id give to see Ds9 during dominion war with todays special effects.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    They were cancelled for good reason. Sci-fi is either hit or miss.

    No one wants to take the risk. As long as things are the way they are, it will be 10 years> before we see a new Trek series.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Let's start casting Obsesek!
    Clancy Brown as Obisek. There is no other alternative.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Star trek will not be back on tv ever again
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Staran wrote: »
    Star trek will not be back on tv ever again

    I sure hope your wrong.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    HerbieZ wrote: »
    They were cancelled for good reason. Sci-fi is either hit or miss.

    No one wants to take the risk. As long as things are the way they are, it will be 10 years> before we see a new Trek series.

    Ten is being conservative - I'd be surprised if we see anything in the general style in ten years, let alone Trek specifically.

    Sci-fi's been doing badly. Most of the new series in recent years have failed, the one that fell bass ackwards into real success ended up making its writers cut themselves because they were expecting to get canceled before they had to figure out how to resolve anything.

    The one network that would probably take the gamble on a new Trek series comes with a price CBS will never pay - the same creative control disputes that killed Farscape and almost killed Stargate. And that was a long time ago - when a Scifi channel original actually had a chance to be pretty decent and have something resembling production quality, and not Sharktopus vs. Mechamonkey.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    stevek765 wrote: »
    Its a shame they left it so long because alot of the old actors are to old now..

    I think old actors adds more to the series methos especially since STO is set several decades away from the last series we saw, it would fit perfectly.

    Most video games start towards the end of a television series run too, which is usually bad for the hype of the game, this could bring new life to STO and even more money to cryptic to push the game's development cycle.

    Could you imagine watching an episode and then being able to play through the episode as your own captain.... EPIC... *puts a quarter in the jar*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Staran wrote: »
    Star trek will not be back on tv ever again

    is there an educated reason why you say that or was that a guess based off your gut feeling.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I sure hope your wrong.

    same. but the odds are, by the time CBS has enough confidence in the IP again, TV will no longer be the medium for entertainment
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    hevach wrote: »

    The one network that would probably take the gamble on a new Trek series comes with a price CBS will never pay - the same creative control disputes that killed Farscape and almost killed Stargate. And that was a long time ago - when a Scifi channel original actually had a chance to be pretty decent and have something resembling production quality, and not Sharktopus vs. Mechamonkey.

    Yeah I have given up on scifi, / syfy / slyfy what ever they call themselves these days, they are just milking the reality cow. I would love to see them take a chance with something new... many people forget the best episodes of Stargate were when it was on showtime....

    wait a second.... a gritty startrek on showtime.... showtime is owned by CBS.... that would be epic.... another quarter in the jar...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    only if its a new ship/ new crew, new area of space.

    and i want a small combat patrol vessel or something. no stupid larger than earth starships, and family settings.

    Andorian Female Captain who is Hot
    Human First Officer
    Reman Security Officer
    Ferengi Pilot
    Romulan Engineer


    that be a nice divese setup of cast.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I was thinking about this the other day. I think they should do a series based on the future, where the federation is fighting the Termporal war that was alluded to in Voyager and Enterprise. That way we could visit all the trek eras and ones we haven't seen before, as well as fill in gaps in the stories. There could be cameos from the different actors and we get something new and interesting every week.

    At stake would be the Trek universe as we understand it, with alternative time lines and what if scenarios up the wazoo.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yeah I have given up on scifi, / syfy / slyfy what ever they call themselves these days, they are just milking the reality cow. I would love to see them take a chance with something new... many people forget the best episodes of Stargate were when it was on showtime....

    wait a second.... a gritty startrek on showtime.... showtime is owned by CBS.... that would be epic.... another quarter in the jar...
    I can tell you what I absolutely do not want to see:
    Any more "Gritty scifi reboots". I could barely tolerate the new Battlestar Galactica. It wasn't fun to watch, it was a painful experience. All the characters were jerks, so why care about what happens to any of them? Worse still, its success (and bizarrely enough, Firefly's failure) have forced producers into thinking this is the only way to make a sci fi show. Look how well that turned out for Stargate Universe. I pretty much peg the blame for the current lack of real scifi on new BSG.

    So no, I would rather never see another Star Trek ever again than see a "gritty" Star Trek series.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I was thinking about this the other day. I think they should do a series based on the future, where the federation is fighting the Termporal war t......
    :eek:
    /snore
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'd very much so like a new tv series set during STO's time period. I even started work on a pilot for one myself, though I doubt I could ever successfully pitch it to a tv studio.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Hi folks,

    While we certainly appreciate the sentiment, we need to remind you that this forum is for the discussion of STO. Not the general status of Sci-fi in the media. (Hint: Sci-fi is far and away from being dead. Just because there's no epic space saga on right now does not mean that you can't find good sci-fi if you look.)

    Please stay on topic.

    Thanks,

    Stormshade
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Resz wrote:
    Clancy Brown as Obisek. There is no other alternative.

    No. Hugo Weaving.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'd very much so like a new tv series set during STO's time period. I even started work on a pilot for one myself, though I doubt I could ever successfully pitch it to a tv studio.

    Honestly I think any new Trek series couldn't survive by adopting the same method as the previous series. The overarching and progressing story really worked out well for Enterprise and DS9.
    So we'd need that.

    But on top of that we'd need to tread new ground. Exploring human enhancement through bionics and genetic engineering in a more sensible and even handed manner would be a good way to go. The relationship between the post scarcity federation worlds and independent races who don't benefit from easy access to the federations technology, would also be interesting ground to tread.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Hey everyone! Like most of you I have been really enjoying STO and think Cryptic has done a fantastic job!
    Pausing for applause :o)


    Now - I would love a Television Series set in the STO universe. I know Paramount is busy with Star Trek 2, and they likely view a television series not set in the alternate universe as a conflict. However, I was wondering if there is a way whether it be a petition, letters, etc, we could contact Paramount and express this interest.

    Dev's - Stahl - this could really benefit the game. Imagine a television series with an active game, that is already established, and is growing a methos... Let's start casting Obsesek!
    However - we could use your help. If we made the efforts mentioned above, would you present this to your paramount contacts?

    The timing right now is perfect. There is currently no new scifi- based show airing in the US that is not cable based. Even long running cable based shows like Stargate have been canceled. They would have a wide open field, and since it has been such a long time, there is a pent up demand.

    Thanks all for reading!:D
    As much I'd love to see a new Star Trek show, I think STO and the potencial show shouldn't colide. Cryptic has a lot of storys, as well the comunity with the Foundry, wich would change a lot of the major events in Star Trek around 2410.
    Going futher in the future to set a new series is complicated...because, where to go? Remember the temporal episodes, most of them were acutally to complicated to comprehend or the theories totally wrong. This is the next step after the STO timline. Going into the past, ...well, where else? There was the NX, the A to J Enterprises, almost any crew is known... so where would you put the story to take place? The only posibility I see, with no redux, is the Enterpise B. But she had a relative short life.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Star Trek will be back on TV, probably when the new movies are done with and CBS realizes the real fanbase is with the Prime-timeline.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I am pretty sure after the last movie both Paramount and CBS are very well aware of the number of people still intrested in Trek. If they are good with one thing it is numbers.

    No need for any petition or anything, just keep buying the DVD's and go watch the next Movie in 2012.

    My only hope is that when JJ Abrams leaves the Series, that the next guy wants to go back to the Prime Universe.


    Anyway right now...

    V (2009)
    Fringe
    Sanctuary
    Outcasts
    The Event
    ...

    plenty of good SciFi-ish stuff to watch, not enough space ships but:

    Galactica is comming back with "Chrome and Blood" ...first Cylon war, lots of CGI battles and a young Adama sitting in a Raptor. yum yum


    PS: i thank god every day that good taste has prevailed over Stargate Universe and Caprica.
    Nobody will want to ever repeat those mistakes again and it made more room for new SciFi Shows.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    is there an educated reason why you say that or was that a guess based off your gut feeling.

    there are many educated reasons that there won't be a Star Trek Television show ever again, but i won't get into it because cryptic will say that I am derailing the thread, give me an infraction, and IP ban me from the internetz.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    No. Hugo Weaving.

    You sir, are the most awesome being ever.

    And yes, a new trek series should follow STO, from lowly beginnings as a fresh Lt. thrown into the fires of command, to the grand finale of the Iconians.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    There's already a few stories out there that do that already, although it's only fanfiction.

    If they do make a series though - I hope for the sake of all that is holy they have a decent writer. It's kind of sad when you can find fan-fiction that's better than the actual thing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Z3R0B4NG wrote: »
    V (2009)
    Fringe
    Sanctuary
    Outcasts
    The Event
    ...

    You've forgotten one :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You've forgotten one :D

    Well they canceled Stargate Universe.. so it's not that one.
    There theoretically are more episodes coming in the spring, but it's days are numbered.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SGU was IMHO the BEST SG show ever! There were no "Clowns in Space" and there was a great story which doesn’t became boring as in BSG (BSG was nice, but just after Season 3. After that is was baloney). SGU was canceled, because there wasn’t enough women from 30-60 watching it. Oh, doll.... -.- Actually it was cancelled by the same reason as ENT. Cancelling shows even before they get interesting will never pay off! Remember, TOS was once canceled as well and Gene Roddenberry fought to bring it back. AND AFTER THAT it became the franchise we know.

    As for JJ Abrams. I do not know, why everyone is whining so much. He did a great work reviving TOS with the fit actors for their roles. You do not like them, because they aren't the original cast, well, get over it, the original cast is too old for this, same as the cast of TNG, Voy and DS9. As for the whole movie deigns, well at least accept, ST 11 wasn't "Clowns on XTC in Space".

    The V redux was one of the most expensive failures in Sci Fi story, and I am very glad it was cancelled.


    I do not understand why the Trek Community has the most close-minded people in the whole Sci FI fan base. Even worse than the Star Wars fans.:mad: Why is it so? Why the most of them can can't accept something new. I remember at the airing of ST - Undiscovered Land, ...what a circus. :rolleyes: "Noooo, Klings want peace. Shapeshifters, nooooo. Anything nooooooo!!! This is no ST at all!!" Bla! And the circus went over to all the new series and movies. Always the same thing.
    As STO was released I prayed this won't happen... well it did happen but in a much smaller amount, thank god!

    All I want to say is, please stay a little open minded, give new ideas a chance otherwise we'll never get the opportunity to get new qualitative and dramaturgic Sci Fi series.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Being somebody who loves SG-1 - I can quite catagorically say SGU blew for one simple reason.

    It simply wasn't Stargate. It was SET in the Stargate universe, but it simply wasn't Stargate. It was Battlestar Galactica in the Stargate Universe.

    It was an attempt to capitalize on BSG's ending by creating a show similar to it to attract viewers.

    Naturally, it failed - because the Stargate universe (itself, not the show) is not a place where that kind of stuff takes place.

    Personally - I couldn't watch it after the pilot. It was extremely cringe-worthy. Frankly, the only way it could POSSIBLY be better, is if they fired the person who thought it was a good idea to try and CROSS Stargate and BSG.

    As for the Star Trek movie, my main complaint is the upgrading of the weapons.

    Star Trek uses phasers, not turbo lasers. It's Star TREK, a show about exploration, science and intelligence, not about blowing the TRIBBLE out of the other ship whenever possible. By changing the combat from submarine warfare to what amounts to basically beam spam, it lost the Star Trek quality. The only thing linking those battles to Star Trek are the ships and the crew.

    It was however, well-written in terms of dialogue and characters.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    BoredZero wrote: »
    As for the Star Trek movie, my main complaint is the upgrading of the weapons.

    Star Trek uses phasers, not turbo lasers. It's Star TREK, a show about exploration, science and intelligence, not about blowing the TRIBBLE out of the other ship whenever possible. By changing the combat from submarine warfare to what amounts to basically beam spam, it lost the Star Trek quality. The only thing linking those battles to Star Trek are the ships and the crew.

    Well that happened already in ENT and the movie just turned ENT turbo lasers to eleven, but that is evolution when 3D technology get's better to the point of being realistic enough art which is hard to notice as art.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Star Trek uses phasers, not turbo lasers.
    Excuse me, but you should know, that Enterprise NX01 was the first which used beams in Starfleet. Still after that the most other ships till TOS used cannons. JJ Abrams wasn't out of the Star Trek cannon at all. And f you think about the Jellyfish from the 25th century and her cannons, well, ...hello STO. almost every second ship here uses cannons and turrets, and the STO storyline is cleared to be cannon in Star Trek.
    It's Star TREK, a show about exploration, science and intelligence, not about blowing the TRIBBLE out of the other ship whenever possible.
    Buddy, you are playing the wrong game, yet. ;):D

    Don't you think this is absurde to grumble about ST 11 and still playing STO? ;)
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