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konagurl21
konagurl21 Posts: 7 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Assassin
okay so i wanted to know how the cards vs numea vs titles all work...
is +3 patt really just +3 or is it amped by other things...

someone told me my sin needs to be 10k magic/physical defence and hp to solo 3-3 and i was woundering how is the fastest way to get there in aps gear.
everything is currently +6 and my goal is no cash!!!!!

i can solo a ton of things but 3-2 and 3-3 are the ones i really need to be able to solo to be able to gear my toons way cheaper.
any advice is helpfull thanks
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  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    konagurl21 wrote: »
    okay so i wanted to know how the cards vs numea vs titles all work...
    is +3 patt really just +3 or is it amped by other things...

    someone told me my sin needs to be 10k magic/physical defence and hp to solo 3-3 and i was woundering how is the fastest way to get there in aps gear.
    everything is currently +6 and my goal is no cash!!!!!

    i can solo a ton of things but 3-2 and 3-3 are the ones i really need to be able to solo to be able to gear my toons way cheaper.
    any advice is helpfull thanks

    Describe your gear piece by piece and maybe we can tell you more on what you need to improve.
    Also what are the things you can solo?
    Can you solo 2-2 or 2-3?
    If you can do that and sell the mats you get there. get money and buy things you need to upgrade your gear. Than you can start soloing 3-3.
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  • konagurl21
    konagurl21 Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    okay here it goes... prepair for long list.

    1st lvl 102
    2nd lvl 101
    current lvl 97 *not worried about this ill have that at 101 before the week is up :)*

    current HP 7755
    Patt 8785-10685
    Pdef 5378
    mdef 5865
    crit rate 36%
    aps 2.86
    accuracy 4054 att lvls 75 def lvl 0 spirit 120 evation 3277

    WEAPON-
    g16 daggers+6
    crit +1% dex +18 1x aps
    GEMS 2x 32 att


    Robe
    str 8 dex 7 vit 6 mag 7 aps 1
    3x 40 hp gems

    neck
    lionheart +6
    pdef 537 reduce p damage 2% crit 1 att 31 has vit 9 for add

    belt
    lion heart +5
    pdef 477 crit 1 str 7 vit 5

    RINGS
    general badge
    heavens jail +4 dex 14 str 6 pres 142

    GEAR
    helm g15 TT +6
    hp 607 dex 10 crit 1 p/mdef 100
    3x 50hp gems

    tunic
    R8 +6
    hp 249 hp 150 dex 7 aps -10
    3x 40 hp gems

    legs
    G15 TT +6
    hp 317 vit 10 dex 7 p/m def +4% aps 1
    3x 50 hp gems

    Boots
    TT99 +6
    hp 249
    hp 80 dex 9 reduce pdmg 1
    GEMS - hp 75 hp 32

    ARMS
    TT 99 +6
    hp 249 hp 80 evade 125 aps 1
    gems 3x 50 hp gems

    CARDS!
    destroyer A att 150 mres 180 hp 125
    Battle B att 98 pres 180
    Longevity B hp 178 pres 380 str 10
    Durrability A hp 428 mres 916 mres 180 crit 1
    Soulprime B spirit 33 vit 10

    Numea is all lvl 2

    absolute virtue lvl 1 *working on that i know its a big part of it any suggestions for bloods would be nice too*

    thanks for help

    ALSO STATS!!!!

    vit 68
    str 108
    dex 493
  • laikiraski
    laikiraski Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    so , TT 3-3 ha ?
    1)work on your defence first ,espessialy the physical one ,that means refine your lionheart neck and belt .
    2)get some cards! they will rase your damage and survivability crasy ! (the lifeprime/soulprime spots not really important for the farming )
    3)did you get passives in primeval or some of them ? like defence passive ?it will improove your defence alot too
    4)i would suggest get round refine to +7 then your hp be around 9k, buffed = 12/13, daggers need to be +10 tho ,causeyou dont have high HP BUT your bp will heal you good
  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    10k DEF is not as easy to get on APS gear as you might think. my sin has around 11k phy def unbuffed in aps gear but i have max lv A def card, max nuema on def, serval cards which give me phy def and r9 ring refined which gives def too.

    i would say that around 7-8k is enough i survive tt 3-3 without any problems.
    When you have 10k phy def BUFFED its fine. when you have issues go omalleys blessing which gives 15 def lv.

    When you have 5 aps +7 weapon should be fine.
    When you have 4 aps, you might have minor problems with SOME bosses but in general you should be fine.
    3.33 aps is the lowest aps i would go as far as farming goes (solo ofc)

    Also the biggest thing you might not know is that you need to know the bosses. You need to keep track of what they are saying. its the fine difference between "damn the APS boss is IMPOSSIBLE" and "oh he goes aps again, i should back off".
    So knowing how to react in there and what to do to survive is way better then just to have pure equipment.
    Sure at some point it doesnt matter anymore but for you it will be alot easier when you know.

    cheers
  • DionDagger - Dreamweaver
    DionDagger - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,140 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »
    10k DEF is not as easy to get on APS gear as you might think. my sin has around 11k phy def unbuffed in aps gear but i have max lv A def card, max nuema on def, serval cards which give me phy def and r9 ring refined which gives def too.

    i would say that around 7-8k is enough i survive tt 3-3 without any problems.
    When you have 10k phy def BUFFED its fine. when you have issues go omalleys blessing which gives 15 def lv.

    When you have 5 aps +7 weapon should be fine.
    When you have 4 aps, you might have minor problems with SOME bosses but in general you should be fine.
    3.33 aps is the lowest aps i would go as far as farming goes (solo ofc)

    Also the biggest thing you might not know is that you need to know the bosses. You need to keep track of what they are saying. its the fine difference between "damn the APS boss is IMPOSSIBLE" and "oh he goes aps again, i should back off".
    So knowing how to react in there and what to do to survive is way better then just to have pure equipment.
    Sure at some point it doesnt matter anymore but for you it will be alot easier when you know.

    cheers

    I'm 2.5 aps sage and i solo all of the TT's just fine. +7 on armor,+10 g16 helm, and rank rings , but chest, which isn't refined or sharded because im working on a r8r set.
  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm 2.5 aps sage and

    mhm i wrote that for demons because i thought he is demon and dont has access to sage bp 24/7 which still makes a huge difference for not op characters.

    But other then that yes your right you dont need 3.33 aps but its faster b:thanks
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    if youre going totally free i recommend titles. Once you get them all done they should add about 250ish pdef which is pretty nice for 100% freeeeee baby. Plus attack evasion etc etc etc etc. They are long but easy c:

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  • Selbronne - Heavens Tear
    Selbronne - Heavens Tear Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    konagurl21 wrote: »
    okay here it goes... prepair for long list.

    1st lvl 102
    2nd lvl 101
    current lvl 97 *not worried about this ill have that at 101 before the week is up :)*

    current HP 7755
    Patt 8785-10685
    Pdef 5378
    mdef 5865
    crit rate 36%
    aps 2.86
    accuracy 4054 att lvls 75 def lvl 0 spirit 120 evation 3277

    WEAPON-
    g16 daggers+6
    crit +1% dex +18 1x aps
    GEMS 2x 32 att


    Robe
    str 8 dex 7 vit 6 mag 7 aps 1
    3x 40 hp gems

    neck
    lionheart +6
    pdef 537 reduce p damage 2% crit 1 att 31 has vit 9 for add

    belt
    lion heart +5
    pdef 477 crit 1 str 7 vit 5

    RINGS
    general badge
    heavens jail +4 dex 14 str 6 pres 142

    GEAR
    helm g15 TT +6
    hp 607 dex 10 crit 1 p/mdef 100
    3x 50hp gems

    tunic
    R8 +6
    hp 249 hp 150 dex 7 aps -10
    3x 40 hp gems

    legs
    G15 TT +6
    hp 317 vit 10 dex 7 p/m def +4% aps 1
    3x 50 hp gems

    Boots
    TT99 +6
    hp 249
    hp 80 dex 9 reduce pdmg 1
    GEMS - hp 75 hp 32

    ARMS
    TT 99 +6
    hp 249 hp 80 evade 125 aps 1
    gems 3x 50 hp gems

    CARDS!
    destroyer A att 150 mres 180 hp 125
    Battle B att 98 pres 180
    Longevity B hp 178 pres 380 str 10
    Durrability A hp 428 mres 916 mres 180 crit 1
    Soulprime B spirit 33 vit 10

    Numea is all lvl 2

    absolute virtue lvl 1 *working on that i know its a big part of it any suggestions for bloods would be nice too*

    thanks for help

    ALSO STATS!!!!

    vit 68
    str 108
    dex 493

    after puting ur gear into pw calc along with maxed passives, u have 15k pdef and 12 k mdef fully buffed. I added there compleated meridian but well... u definitly should get passives, titles and those things since they help a lot.
    Aslo... ppl were able to solo 3-3 before even g16 weapons, just using old style g13 dager ...

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