resouce war suggestion

Shidoshi - Lost City
Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
edited April 2015 in Suggestion Box
for a guild to be able to enter plunder mode, i think they need a base of lvl 20+. i have been noticing a lot of noob guild entering and fighting.
pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
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  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Shidoshi - Lost City wrote: »
    for a guild to be able to enter plunder mode, i think they need a base of lvl 20+. i have been noticing a lot of noob guild entering and fighting.

    You dont give up dont you with this sugestion of yours?
    Nope I dont agree with you.
    A faction with lvl less than 20 should have the same right to fight.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2015
    ... I'm not even going to dignify this with an in-depth explanation as to why this is so obviously not a good suggestion. This one's just that bad.
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  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    why is that bad. it prevent alt faction and troll faction from interfering with guild that actualy try in this game. OH but i forget people want to take advantage of this game, maybe that's the reason you two are calling my suggestion bad. it would prevent you from abusing your alt guilds in getting tokens.

    oh and opkossy if your not going to give an explaination then keep quite.
    pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    You never stop to amaze me.
    People always try to take advantage of everything, that is how life goes this days and thats exactly the same thing you are doing now.
    Actually exactly the same thing you doing with every suggestion thread you make.
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  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    bloodedone87 wrote: »
    You never stop to amaze me.
    People always try to take advantage of everything, that is how life goes this days and thats exactly the same thing you are doing now.
    Actually exactly the same thing you doing with every suggestion thread you make.

    Oh when have i try to take advantage of anything on this game?? OH never. you must be talking out of your *** again.
    pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Shidoshi - Lost City wrote: »
    Oh when have i try to take advantage of anything on this game?? OH never. you must be talking out of your *** again.

    Oh so taking out the factions with the lvl less than 20 doesnt give any advantage for the factions with lvl higher than 20?
    And I gues you are not in a faction with lvl 20+? You just being nice no?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2015
    Somebody's clearly full of himself here.

    And I'm not talking about bloodedone87 for those that need a hint. Maybe I should tell you to keep quiet if you aren't going to make good suggestions Shidoshi? Fair's fair, after all. b:cute
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  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    i could say the same about you OPKossy.

    from what i seen this is a good suggestion. its not for you to say its a good or bad idea. just because you a mod doesn't make you right all the time. i guess thats what you get froma crappy forum mod.

    yes i am in a faction with a base lvl of 20+ bloodedon87 it must be nice to hide your true main character name so you can troll people on forums.
    pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ... so only lvl 20+ bases? Does that mean that in order to actually attack and hold territory you'd also need to have a lvl20+ base?

    Smells to me the topicstarter is just a little whiney about the fact that the resource bases tend to be all gone some 5 minutes after the RW starts, leaving no time for him to farm carts - and wants the event restricted to long-established factions... That's an elitist attitude which I strongly disagree with. It's a PvE server problem mainly anyway - on PvP servers the defending faction can actually take out attacking players.


    That said, the resource bases could use a revamp, they should take longer to take down. Maybe an idea would be to limit the max amount of damage per hit they could take, kinda like how the mobs in Smoke over Archo will only take 1 damage per hit. This would work in favor of bigger factions - the more members beating an enemy base, the faster it's hp drops (instead of just having one overpowered toon take it out solo). Maybe even leave the resource base in a "destroyed" state but not despawn it until the RW ends, and let the carts continue on as normal - that gives all factions a chance to hunt carts too.
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  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Evryn - Morai wrote: »
    ... so only lvl 20+ bases? Does that mean that in order to actually attack and hold territory you'd also need to have a lvl20+ base?

    Smells to me the topicstarter is just a little whiney about the fact that the resource bases tend to be all gone some 5 minutes after the RW starts, leaving no time for him to farm carts - and wants the event restricted to long-established factions... That's an elitist attitude which I strongly disagree with. It's a PvE server problem mainly anyway - on PvP servers the defending faction can actually take out attacking players.


    That said, the resource bases could use a revamp, they should take longer to take down. Maybe an idea would be to limit the max amount of damage per hit they could take, kinda like how the mobs in Smoke over Archo will only take 1 damage per hit. This would work in favor of bigger factions - the more members beating an enemy base, the faster it's hp drops (instead of just having one overpowered toon take it out solo). Maybe even leave the resource base in a "destroyed" state but not despawn it until the RW ends, and let the carts continue on as normal - that gives all factions a chance to hunt carts too.

    the problem with that idea is chinatown is a big bully faction with many alts and alt guilds they will kill base's so 5 or 6 main faction will half to fight 4 or 5 base's allowing them to start targeting faction. they could care less about the carts.
    pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2015
    Shidoshi - Lost City wrote: »
    i could say the same about you OPKossy.

    from what i seen this is a good suggestion. its not for you to say its a good or bad idea. just because you a mod doesn't make you right all the time. i guess thats what you get froma crappy forum mod.

    I don't claim to be right all the time. However, you're the one sitting on the high horse with your head up your own posterior here. Me being a mod and my abilities as a mod are completely irrelevant to that fact, even if you don't wish to use any common sense or would prefer to continue behaving in a manner more befitting a pre-pubescent child. Maybe if you took some time to think a little bit or just re-read your posts you'd realize that.

    ... Then again, you seem to be convinced that you are always right so it may be something lost on you.



    Regardless, do tell why a faction should NEED a base of a minimum level of 20 to participate. Go on, I'll wait. Who on earth does your suggestion actually help outside of those who already have almost all the advantages of a high-end faction? Now compare it to the -EVERYONE ELSE- it hurts. Let's not forget the fact that, being on a PvP server, you're fully capable of simply KILLING any of these alts that aren't below level 30 (aka who don't matter) that you claim would cause such a problem. At least PvE servers have a legitimate, if unrelated, complaint in that blue names can setup AFK zhens on the spawns and completely shut down the ability for anyone to actually do anything.

    As is, your reasoning is nothing more than you being greedy and wanting to punish others who aren't in the same position as you are. At least that's what it shows based on your "reasons" in here so far. How about you take a minute or two and think up some decent and logical reasons for why such a harsh limit should be imposed while weighing the pros and cons and then come forward with them? Until you do that, nobody who sees this thread is honestly going to take it seriously because on the surface all it looks like is, "WAA I DUN WANT PPL 2 GET STUFF FROM RW WEN DEY ARNT IN MI FACTION!!1!1! PWI KEEP DEM OUT PLZ!1!1!!shiftoneone"
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  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Shidoshi - Lost City wrote: »
    i could say the same about you OPKossy.

    from what i seen this is a good suggestion. its not for you to say its a good or bad idea. just because you a mod doesn't make you right all the time. i guess thats what you get froma crappy forum mod.

    yes i am in a faction with a base lvl of 20+ bloodedon87 it must be nice to hide your true main character name so you can troll people on forums.

    My true character name is LuminaFerron from Archosaur server. Stormbringer.She is my main. And I am a male in real life.
    She is in the faction Tenacious. A small faction but with great ppl.
    I would change the name on the forum too but I have no idea how to do it.
    What did you said about trolling?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2015
    Evryn - Morai wrote: »
    ... so only lvl 20+ bases? Does that mean that in order to actually attack and hold territory you'd also need to have a lvl20+ base?

    Smells to me the topicstarter is just a little whiney about the fact that the resource bases tend to be all gone some 5 minutes after the RW starts, leaving no time for him to farm carts - and wants the event restricted to long-established factions... That's an elitist attitude which I strongly disagree with. It's a PvE server problem mainly anyway - on PvP servers the defending faction can actually take out attacking players.


    That said, the resource bases could use a revamp, they should take longer to take down. Maybe an idea would be to limit the max amount of damage per hit they could take, kinda like how the mobs in Smoke over Archo will only take 1 damage per hit. This would work in favor of bigger factions - the more members beating an enemy base, the faster it's hp drops (instead of just having one overpowered toon take it out solo). Maybe even leave the resource base in a "destroyed" state but not despawn it until the RW ends, and let the carts continue on as normal - that gives all factions a chance to hunt carts too.
    Valid points on both ends. Especially the revamp bit. Maybe have some sort of penalty towards the bases that are "destroyed" as a means of further encouraging keeping them alive. The biggest issue though is, like you said, how blue names can utterly devastate it on PvE servers. That needs to be fixed for certain but I don't see Wamnei bothering considering the treatment of the Primal quests that require PK mode on PvE servers to be completed to their fullest extent. :/
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  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I don't claim to be right all the time. However, you're the one sitting on the high horse with your head up your own posterior here. Me being a mod and my abilities as a mod are completely irrelevant to that fact, even if you don't wish to use any common sense or would prefer to continue behaving in a manner more befitting a pre-pubescent child. Maybe if you took some time to think a little bit or just re-read your posts you'd realize that.

    ... Then again, you seem to be convinced that you are always right so it may be something lost on you.



    Regardless, do tell why a faction should NEED a base of a minimum level of 20 to participate. Go on, I'll wait. Who on earth does your suggestion actually help outside of those who already have almost all the advantages of a high-end faction? Now compare it to the -EVERYONE ELSE- it hurts. Let's not forget the fact that, being on a PvP server, you're fully capable of simply KILLING any of these alts that aren't below level 30 (aka who don't matter) that you claim would cause such a problem. At least PvE servers have a legitimate, if unrelated, complaint in that blue names can setup AFK zhens on the spawns and completely shut down the ability for anyone to actually do anything.

    As is, your reasoning is nothing more than you being greedy and wanting to punish others who aren't in the same position as you are. At least that's what it shows based on your "reasons" in here so far. How about you take a minute or two and think up some decent and logical reasons for why such a harsh limit should be imposed while weighing the pros and cons and then come forward with them? Until you do that, nobody who sees this thread is honestly going to take it seriously because on the surface all it looks like is, "WAA I DUN WANT PPL 2 GET STUFF FROM RW WEN DEY ARNT IN MI FACTION!!1!1! PWI KEEP DEM OUT PLZ!1!1!!shiftoneone"

    LOL your stupid OPKossy. VERY STUPID. so pvp server have no legit reason to complain. maybe you should take you're own words and shove it up you're own ***. why don't you think. OH I'M SORRY you need a brain for that. my suggestion would help more then me you idiot. it would help other guild that do SPEND the time and who are DEDICATED to this game and spend time on their faction to get to a lvl of base so the can particapate with out having to worry about these stupid lowbie faction full of alt where people just place them to leech off everything.
    pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    So when people dont agree with you you start with insults.
    Very mature of you.
    You are exactly the way Kossy describe you.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2015
    Shidoshi - Lost City wrote: »
    LOL your stupid OPKossy. VERY STUPID. so pvp server have no legit reason to complain. maybe you should take you're own words and shove it up you're own ***. why don't you think. OH I'M SORRY you need a brain for that. my suggestion would help more then me you idiot. it would help other guild that do SPEND the time and who are DEDICATED to this game and spend time on their faction to get to a lvl of base so the can particapate with out having to worry about these stupid lowbie faction full of alt where people just place them to leech off everything.


    Way to make a response proving my point precisely, Shidoshi. Somehow, I knew you'd stoop to making a fool of yourself instead of actually taking the out I gave you and listing some valid points and reasoning behind this.
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  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Problem is Shidoshi that you are making a fatal misassumption:
    - That alt factions all have a low level or no level base. Not true.
    - That established factions all have a high level (20+) base. Also not true.

    Aside from that, people tend to run the RW on their mains more then alts.
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  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Evryn - Morai wrote: »
    Problem is Shidoshi that you are making a fatal misassumption:
    - That alt factions all have a low level or no level base. Not true.
    - That established factions all have a high level (20+) base. Also not true.

    Aside from that, people tend to run the RW on their mains more then alts.

    the 20+ is just a number that can be figitted around with. it was just a number i put out.

    you be surprised about the main to alt ratio going on. its almost like for one main their's about 3 alts and in 90% of the case all 4 ( the main and alts) would be logged on the some time on one computer. its funny how you half to voilate the code of conduct just to make any money on the game now a days
    pwi gms are useless. submitting tickets are useless. start calling their main office's. raise hell. take back the game.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2015
    Since you wish to continuously edit back in deleted content, you've earned your thread a close. Pity as there was someone you were actually getting into a discussion with without trying to act out and that may have actually lead somewhere had you wished to adhere to the rules.
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