Delta bosses not dropping mats

Jaabg - Sanctuary
Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Quality Corner
Hi

Recently it has started becoming irksome, that in each full delta run i take part in, there is at least one boss that gives 0 drops.

If you check out each boss in the wiki link for delta, all bosses will drop items 100% of the time (24 items in total)

Stage 1

Boss: Crypt Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17357)


Stage 2

Boss: Skeleton Legion Guardian (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17358)
Boss: Skeleton Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17359)


Stage 3

Boss: Tigera Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17360)


Stage 4

Boss: Sori Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17361)


Stage 5

Boss: Adawolf legion Commander (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17362)
Boss: Adalwolf Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17363)


Stage 6

Boss: Feligar Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17364)


Stage 7

Boss: Taurox Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17365)


Stage 8

Boss: Zombie Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17366)


Stage 9

Boss: Dark Legion Marshal(http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17367)


Stage 10

Boss: Legion Marshal (http://www.pwdatabase.com/mob/17368)

The above issue is similar to how extra mobs spawn in lunar when you are clearing, delta has this peculiar bug. It was bad enough that money was removed from delta

you can refer to this topic http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1523661 where 95% of the votes (293 significant considering the forums) voted yes, but we all know how that went.

If you could get the issue fixed of delta bosses not dropping mats, items, it would be appreciated. This is a very old problem, i just wanted to point it out again due to the fact that people are catching up on cultis for pill babies so more delta is slightly more popular these days.
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  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Boy do I miss delta/the coins from the mushrooms.

    I know I ran it quite regularly and absolutely loved the instance before the coin removal, as did the people whom I ran with, sadly after it we stopped running it daily. It was the same for many a squad who ran it daily, now it is indeed quite difficult to get a squad together for it for culti. (The costs. QQ) --- Yes you/we can still earn coin from it but it is at such an indirect way people just don't bother with it anymore.

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    Anyways I digress... my point for bringing that bit up is this:

    There were times even during those days that some bosses wouldn't drop a thing at all, it was mainly the early bosses, but it did happen. sometimes even twice in the same run.

    Ergo I believe its more of a 99% chance that the bosses will drop something.

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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The bosses aren't level ?, they're level 95, so are affected by overlevel drop nerf: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/drop

    Long story short, for 100% drop rate, no one in squad can be over level 97.
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Long story short, for 100% drop rate, no one in squad can be over level 97.

    Wow, i never thought the lvl difference would factor into a 100% rate, i was under the impression 100% = 100% b:cry. Thanks for letting me know *shoos away all the 105's from delta*.

    Slivaf - do you recall if mushrooms used to drop incomparable shards? Of late i only picked immaculates and one perfect.
  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wow, i never thought the lvl difference would factor into a 100% rate, i was under the impression 100% = 100% b:cry. Thanks for letting me know *shoos away all the 105's from delta*.

    Slivaf - do you recall if mushrooms used to drop incomparable shards? Of late i only picked immaculates and one perfect.

    I want to say they use to drop perfect ones, (late waves) but it has been a while. :$

    Don't recall seeing an incomparable drop there. (but yea as I said it has indeed been a while.)
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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It's always been this way. I love RB Delta and have run it countless times over the years. Generally we get drops but there are always one or two stingy ones.

    As it was pointed out above, the bosses actually have levels, and since now the groups that run it are always 100+ it makes a difference to the drop rate. I'm not sure why it would say 100% since it never has been.

    Edit: I know it states "3. 100%" but if you scroll down to the drops listing, there is not one item that actually is 100%. That's usually where I look to see about drop rates.
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    Edit: I know it states "3. 100%" but if you scroll down to the drops listing, there is not one item that actually is 100%. That's usually where I look to see about drop rates.

    can people not read simple tables?
    3. 100% means it will drop 3 items 100% of the time (*8 right above it)

    most non bosses drop 0, 1 , 2, or 3 things at a time..

    of course all drops are modified by level pentalty
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I want to say they use to drop perfect ones, (late waves) but it has been a while. :$

    Don't recall seeing an incomparable drop there. (but yea as I said it has indeed been a while.)

    I have incomparable shards of items, and i know i never made those, i must have picked them up from delta. Now i only get perfect and immaculates from there.

    Thanks for the replies everyone b:pleased.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Aurogon can drop incomparable elemental shards, maybe you got those from AEU?
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Aurogon can drop incomparable elemental shards, maybe you got those from AEU?

    Possible, but these drops are before AEU came out, could be i am mixing things up.
  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    You got the incomparable shards as drops from wygie bosses in Lunar when you were running it with me.
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You got the incomparable shards as drops from wygie bosses in Lunar when you were running it with me.

    Herald of agony is all about immaculates http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/23560.
  • sinithsky
    sinithsky Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    this may be irrelevant but if you have at least 1 person in squad with no earning time and they attack the boss it will not drop anything. at least that's what i've heard. i personally havent had that problem yet
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  • Ostara - Lost City
    Ostara - Lost City Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Usually there's a chance that boss won't drop mats. It's always been like that. With my experience(and I run a lot of full GV's) it might be 1 or 2 bosses that don't drop anything and usually it's the first half of GV.
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    sinithsky wrote: »
    this may be irrelevant but if you have at least 1 person in squad with no earning time and they attack the boss it will not drop anything. at least that's what i've heard. i personally havent had that problem yet

    True, that would be the case, but that would apply for all bosses, and not just a few. But no one in squad had that issue, if someone does, we tell them to sit pretty, but didn't have an issue with that so far
    Ostara - Lost City wrote: »
    Usually there's a chance that boss won't drop mats. It's always been like that. With my experience(and I run a lot of full GV's) it might be 1 or 2 bosses that don't drop anything and usually it's the first half of GV.

    Others enlightened me on the issue, i always wondered why mobs were ? while bosses were lvl 95. Now i know

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