Is this kind of joke?

ArcticRain - Raging Tide · March 2015

What's the point of Active Points at 90+ RB/RB2? (maybe lower but not hundred percent sure). I think it's pathetic because they expect you to do some quests that you can't even get at your lvl, so how do they expect you to get lucky points? Also, I thought it wsn't active until lvl100+ (or is it different for RB? I just think it's unfair. Did they do it deliberately or is it just kind of bug?

Also, a few days ago, I was doing a quest and the active points menue opened up that said I could have done BQ for active points, but when I did BQ, I didn't get any. Anybody know why?

But seriously, they should have the active points offer quests you can only do, rather than quests at 95+ that you can't do because your lower. I seriously think it's pathetic.

On the other note, most things you get from events quest are pointless, for example EXP scratch card. what's the point of getting only 1k exp pack if you need over 18mil to lvl? The ONLY things I can think of from the events quest or w/e are the hypers, and pills. Even I would waste anything for a measly 30 flyer or fashion.

eland20 · March 2015

i find the whole level restrictions pathetic
why is G15-G16 gear limited for people who are 100+ or RB
Since new people have to face RB-People with G16 gear while they can only use G1-G12 gear the game totally went offroad. Competition is unfair.

but to your point. i think the active point system is limited to all quest 100+.
you will never get any active point at lower level, either reborn or not.
its another unfair system against new people who have todo more things than the advandced people.
also the fact that faction base quest below level 90 is not worth doing it, shows how bad PWI handle new people.

but i think the active point system is meant for the cashshop people who get the autopot thing.
people told me you can use more active points then.

its all unfair b:thanks

Mosz - Heavens Tear · March 2015

eland20 wrote: »

i find the whole level restrictions pathetic
why is G15-G16 gear limited for people who are 100+ or RB
Since new people have to face RB-People with G16 gear while they can only use G1-G12 gear the game totally went offroad. Competition is unfair.

but to your point. i think the active point system is limited to all quest 100+.
you will never get any active point at lower level, either reborn or not.
its another unfair system against new people who have todo more things than the advandced people.
also the fact that faction base quest below level 90 is not worth doing it, shows how bad PWI handle new people.

but i think the active point system is meant for the cashshop people who get the autopot thing.
people told me you can use more active points then.

its all unfair b:thanks

embarrassing logic

why lvl restrict gear? there are lvl restircted areas, quests, events, you want MORE imbalance for weak people? also no way low lvls would get ger farmed from end game instances..think gear elitism is bad now? gj making it 100 times worse, LFM bh39 only r9s3 plz.

only cash shop peopel can afford 3 gold autopot per month? something that combined with free pots is cheaper than charms and actually saves everyone money? thats not only stashable but also freely tradeable

there are plenty unfair things in the game, but literally everything you listed makes the game MORE fair than less... wow PWE should hire you as a creative director

ObviousAlt - Raging Tide · March 2015

Active points were meant only for 100+

After rebirth the only get a few quests that work with that system until you hit 100 again
Stronghold Assault (50)
Search for Energy (80)
Morai Forces (95)

Base quests are 100+ only for active point system

Event quests are fast and easy for basically free stuff stop complaining

drcalgori87 · March 2015

the point system is fine the way it is, high level players had to work hard to get high level (all we did was fc, if you deny then so be it). pw wants high endgame players to focus on spending vs playing/earning, so naturaly the less you have to do the more you will spend. Now when it comes to gear, i agree the gear situation is a mess, just look at nw. To me the point of nw was to improve your gear by making raps and uncanny's to get g15, but sadly now its a place for the cash players to get more coin than a player who actualy works to earn every little scrap they have. personaly what they should of done with nw is restrict based upin rep, 300k rep players have their own nw with other 300k rep i,e r9. 200k same thing and non rep players such as us g16 fight other level 100's who are not in the r9/r8 category meaning it comes down to skill and not just gear. I know some players will say "i'm in g15 gear and can kill r9 players no problem and heres the example." find me a g15/g16ws geared person that can 1-2 shot an r9 barb with over 60k hp, point proven. the gear system and nw system was a mess when they made it and still is a mess. Now as to Base quest being pointless under level 90, really? i do base quest for one reason only, Feat tokens. all levels of base quest give you same merit, you then take merit/contribution point down to manor of just and get Feat Tokens. why get feat tokens you ask, so that when you rb you can then trade those tokesn in for a quest at the manor of justice. I have rb'd 2 toon on both first and second rb very fast. my main was able on first rb to go from 1-100 in just under 7 hours all fromfeat tokens, second rb was around 8.5 hours again feat tokens. so base quest is important to do regardless of what level you are or if it gives xp or not.

Colum - Raging Tide · March 2015

Leveling as RB is so easy theres no point for active points before 100+ regardless....

nbreaking · March 2015

The active point system is not a joke but this thread is b:victory

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide · March 2015

drcalgori87 wrote: »

the point system is fine the way it is, high level players had to work hard to get high level (all we did was fc, if you deny then so be it). pw wants high endgame players to focus on spending vs playing/earning, so naturaly the less you have to do the more you will spend. Now when it comes to gear, i agree the gear situation is a mess, just look at nw. To me the point of nw was to improve your gear by making raps and uncanny's to get g15, but sadly now its a place for the cash players to get more coin than a player who actualy works to earn every little scrap they have. personaly what they should of done with nw is restrict based upin rep, 300k rep players have their own nw with other 300k rep i,e r9. 200k same thing and non rep players such as us g16 fight other level 100's who are not in the r9/r8 category meaning it comes down to skill and not just gear. I know some players will say "i'm in g15 gear and can kill r9 players no problem and heres the example." find me a g15/g16ws geared person that can 1-2 shot an r9 barb with over 60k hp, point proven. the gear system and nw system was a mess when they made it and still is a mess. Now as to Base quest being pointless under level 90, really? i do base quest for one reason only, Feat tokens. all levels of base quest give you same merit, you then take merit/contribution point down to manor of just and get Feat Tokens. why get feat tokens you ask, so that when you rb you can then trade those tokesn in for a quest at the manor of justice. I have rb'd 2 toon on both first and second rb very fast. my main was able on first rb to go from 1-100 in just under 7 hours all fromfeat tokens, second rb was around 8.5 hours again feat tokens. so base quest is important to do regardless of what level you are or if it gives xp or not.

Why separate those with R9 from those that don't have R9 in NW? Even my characters that I have done NW with in the past that re only G15/G16 have come out with 150 to 250 tokens. Sure each was one shot a lot, but not always. Yeah there will always be people better geared, with better shards/cards/refines, but who cares.

Your example of a 60k hp barb is a moot point. Hell even most R9rr characters unless well sharded/carded and in a like squad aren't going to do much to stop one of these barbs. I see one of those with the flag, I just let them go, and find a battle to take part in instead, or run as back up killing/slowing those helping him turn in the flag, and hope some OP person can stop him.

As for working for every scrap....I work 50 to 70+ hours a week at my job. It pays very well, so I cash shop. I work for every scrap. I also work harder than someone spending time in game 10+ hours a day farming while living in mom and dad's basement. So again, moot point.

bloodedone87 · March 2015

drcalgori87 wrote: »

the point system is fine the way it is, high level players had to work hard to get high level (all we did was fc, if you deny then so be it). pw wants high endgame players to focus on spending vs playing/earning, so naturaly the less you have to do the more you will spend. Now when it comes to gear, i agree the gear situation is a mess, just look at nw. To me the point of nw was to improve your gear by making raps and uncanny's to get g15, but sadly now its a place for the cash players to get more coin than a player who actualy works to earn every little scrap they have. personaly what they should of done with nw is restrict based upin rep, 300k rep players have their own nw with other 300k rep i,e r9. 200k same thing and non rep players such as us g16 fight other level 100's who are not in the r9/r8 category meaning it comes down to skill and not just gear. I know some players will say "i'm in g15 gear and can kill r9 players no problem and heres the example." find me a g15/g16ws geared person that can 1-2 shot an r9 barb with over 60k hp, point proven. the gear system and nw system was a mess when they made it and still is a mess. Now as to Base quest being pointless under level 90, really? i do base quest for one reason only, Feat tokens. all levels of base quest give you same merit, you then take merit/contribution point down to manor of just and get Feat Tokens. why get feat tokens you ask, so that when you rb you can then trade those tokesn in for a quest at the manor of justice. I have rb'd 2 toon on both first and second rb very fast. my main was able on first rb to go from 1-100 in just under 7 hours all fromfeat tokens, second rb was around 8.5 hours again feat tokens. so base quest is important to do regardless of what level you are or if it gives xp or not.

I think I can translate what you are saying:

''I hate cash shoppers and R9r3 players''

ZetsumieX - Raging Tide · March 2015

only fix that active system needs is to allow us to autocomplete the quest w/o spending useless time running around to the npc to get it (and in some cases like the racoon quests to also get reward from npc). Especially for the primal quests, i usually end up rather doing the quests since i'm already there anyway and they fast enough.

virusofyourlife2 · March 2015

drcalgori87 wrote: »

the point system is fine the way it is, high level players had to work hard to get high level (all we did was fc, if you deny then so be it). pw wants high endgame players to focus on spending vs playing/earning, so naturaly the less you have to do the more you will spend. Now when it comes to gear, i agree the gear situation is a mess, just look at nw. To me the point of nw was to improve your gear by making raps and uncanny's to get g15, but sadly now its a place for the cash players to get more coin than a player who actualy works to earn every little scrap they have. personaly what they should of done with nw is restrict based upin rep, 300k rep players have their own nw with other 300k rep i,e r9. 200k same thing and non rep players such as us g16 fight other level 100's who are not in the r9/r8 category meaning it comes down to skill and not just gear. I know some players will say "i'm in g15 gear and can kill r9 players no problem and heres the example." find me a g15/g16ws geared person that can 1-2 shot an r9 barb with over 60k hp, point proven. the gear system and nw system was a mess when they made it and still is a mess. Now as to Base quest being pointless under level 90, really? i do base quest for one reason only, Feat tokens. all levels of base quest give you same merit, you then take merit/contribution point down to manor of just and get Feat Tokens. why get feat tokens you ask, so that when you rb you can then trade those tokesn in for a quest at the manor of justice. I have rb'd 2 toon on both first and second rb very fast. my main was able on first rb to go from 1-100 in just under 7 hours all fromfeat tokens, second rb was around 8.5 hours again feat tokens. so base quest is important to do regardless of what level you are or if it gives xp or not.

... Yes, let's put all the non-rep players in one NW, so that the people with high refined T3 armor, Emperor tome, Warsoul Weapons, S cards and NW ornaments can roflstomp the G15/T3 people without all that extra stuff. And yes, those toons exist *i.e alts of said R9RRs you're complaining about* and yes, those R9RRs would choose to play their alts with OP gear in a setup like that in a heartbeat, because by your own logic : severely outgearing your competition in NW = more NW tokens, thus if you are R9RR and outgear some of your opponents (while still having a large percentage of equal geared competition) you'll get less tokens than if you're UBER-T3 going against a smaller population of UBER-T3 but mostly no-rank G16 with scrappy gears.

Simply put, your logic is flawed.

Colum - Raging Tide · March 2015

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide wrote: »

Why separate those with R9 from those that don't have R9 in NW? Even my characters that I have done NW with in the past that re only G15/G16 have come out with 150 to 250 tokens. Sure each was one shot a lot, but not always. Yeah there will always be people better geared, with better shards/cards/refines, but who cares.

Your example of a 60k hp barb is a moot point. Hell even most R9rr characters unless well sharded/carded and in a like squad aren't going to do much to stop one of these barbs. I see one of those with the flag, I just let them go, and find a battle to take part in instead, or run as back up killing/slowing those helping him turn in the flag, and hope some OP person can stop him.

As for working for every scrap....I work 50 to 70+ hours a week at my job. It pays very well, so I cash shop. I work for every scrap. I also work harder than someone spending time in game 10+ hours a day farming while living in mom and dad's basement. So again, moot point.

About same token amounts on my noobish alts, my barb used to get 200-300 tokens with his g16 and have not tried on the badly refined r9rr yet.

Well as for 60k hp barbs... You do not need an OP to stop him, but it is fair that you cannot do a thing ALONE. However just a few people can lock a barb down fairly easily until help arrives to kill him. If there's a cleric nearby they can use their auras to make barb's charm weaker and same thing with psychics. As a seeker you can do a rather nasty trick by flying in the air, then transpositioning the barb and quickly using heartseeker - barb will be stuck in the air immobilized unable to invoke or take any other actions. This is of course assuming that the barb isnt antistunned at the moment and you're fast enough (and some luck from transposition proccing). Nonetheless, it's a way to **** the barb over if you have few other people there helping.

I think the MAJOR problem with people in NW is that they're not focusing on the main objective, they will rather slaughter each other than go after the flag carrier or try to stop the flag carrier helpers/protect their own flag carrier. In crystal contest people do not spread enough to protect ALL crystals, and in bridge battle there's a PK fest in the middle of everything with only little focus on the towers.

bloodedone87 · March 2015

I know I am going a little bit off topic here with this comment but I will have to do it since someone said something about ppl not being able to 1-2 shot a barb with 60k hp.
Well that is how it should work.
In any game the barbarian is consider the strongest class of the game.
The barbarian is the Tank. The one that goes in first line. The barbarian is the one with the highest strenght. Its the '' the shield'' for the other players. Protecting them by attracting all hits or the major hits from bosses to him. Cause he has the power to survive more than other classes. The barbarina is the one that you should struggle with your friends to knock him down.
The barbarian is the class that has a hit so powerfull that can blow his enemies in 1 shot if they are not equal or stronger than him.
In this game is an R9r3 barb with 60k HP doesnt 1-2 shot a g15 player than maybe the one that plays the barb should reconsider and go play other class.
And some of you may say: ''Oh its easy to play a barb, you got high HP and high str. its easy to survive'' Nope its not easy to play a barb. It requires actually a good brain to play a barb( thats why I dont play a barbb:chuckle).

Alot of people can play a barb. Only a few can master a barb.
b:bye

Kniraven - Lost City · March 2015

This seems like a silly thing to complain about really.

Just level up then go back to using the active point system.

Is this kind of joke?

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