Problem pulling agro w/life hunter

It shows the text "only barbarians can blabla his somethingsomething hit".
A second or 1-3 after that he slaps.

If people don't like it, just stand down and hit only every once in a while, or throw in a subsea.
After a bit just slap it normally.
Or wait for a chop to happen, go all out for a little bit until (just before) an axe gets thrown and pray to pan-gu the barb knows what fleshream / stomp of the king / any other aggro grabbing skill is.

Marengo - Lost City wrote: »

This is really a serious problem. I don't know what to advise... Maybe... bow at range on toad? If it doesn't help, I think you should talk with barb about it and find out if his weap is decent enough to hold agro before fs run. If not, you can refuse to go with this squad and find another. It may take a while, but apparently worth it. Another option is to apply to support/quality corner and to ask to nerf life hunter. I saw my squad mates switching weaps on toad, but that's so ridiculous. r9r with lvl1 weap, haha! I never understood that and always spark on toad + dd like crazy b:cute I can feel your pain, bud b:sad

holy damn lord of trolling... >.<

Real sins pull agro at Toad spamming a SiNGLE skill (QQ) and TANK it!

That's why I avoid sins in my FS squads, because gtfo you're OP enough!

When you know his attack pattern you can also keep an eye on the stun-DoT from toad. The 2nd agro in squad will be stunned and debuffed by DoT and your agro will be set back to 0. You can take advantage of this knowledge by doing more DD after getting stunned by the DoT skill from toad. I have been able to triple spark and do a few nice crit hits without taking agro from decent geared barbs (my r999 +12 weap vs their g15-g16 +5 stuff)
Of course I would still try hold back a little if you see too many zerk-crits or something. I would also learn his attack pattern first in case you actually get agro so that you'll be able to time AD or something. He's pretty easy to resist when you know when.

If the next stun then goes to someone else (easily happens if there's another high DD) I would not go max out on DD again before you got another dot-stun

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Or wait for a chop to happen, go all out for a little bit until (just before) an axe gets thrown and pray to pan-gu the barb knows what fleshream / stomp of the king / any other aggro grabbing skill is.

What, there's barbs that try to tank frog without spamming ream and stomp?
That said, aps it until a chop, use Deaden, then go all out until you're hit by the chop. And preferably don't stand side by side with people who don't have deaden....

Easiest solution. Lower your dps on bosses you know you can't tank.

If we need to tell you HOW, then you should just stop now.

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

At toad, I run in and bestial onslaught him to bring him to corner. I switch in tiger form to run in the corner because it is faster that way, and after first axe I stomp of the king him quickly. Then I switch in human and tank toad with my skill spam macro rest of the dungeon.¨

Can't say I'd have lost aggro to a sin before, couple times few r9rr+12 archers but that's really all I can reckon. And yes, they've been all out.

Oh, i go stand right next to it, down the stairs, hugging the wall of his pool. This does not agro him yet.
when everyone is present, I cast onslaught on it so that it will walk around and down the stairs to attack me. This way it will be turning its back to the squad. I dont need to move and can use the time he is walking to spark. Then i start my DD macro

I lost agro a few times to end game sins who spark as i do and then start with elimination+life hunter. I assume they are babies who want to prove that they can out-DD me even though it causes them to die.
And evryn, yes we tank standing up and it works waaaaaay better than in tiger form. (if you are str build with decent refined R9)

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

I can tank toad until he does his slap b:chuckle, but yeah re-learning to control agro should not take to long. I can just go back to regular skill spaming or bow him to death. I am not sure on barbs gear I will look at that next time. One instance was a psy.

One this is for sure, life-hunter is op and I am using g16 daggers, can't wait to see what r9 can do.

Or you could learn to play your class and tank Toad o.o "his slap" can be tanked by any sin worth his salt, and it was explained in previous posts actually.

Spark it, immune it, deaden it... just that easy >.<

butterglobe wrote: »

I noticed this hasn't been suggested.

To release agro, just force stealth. Boss will immediately turn to the next highest dmg dealer (or barb). Forcing stealth gives you a clean slate (resets back to 0) so just continue to wack with all your might and the boss should be dead before you can steal aggro again.

This simple method also works on other bosses in other instances like AEU etc. Try it.

Does this really work? o.o Even on 150 (?) bosses? o.o

I gotta try it with my archer then, because we can also force stealth and this would be pretty useful for us

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

This has happened to me several times on drake using a g16 bow. The barb would get a bit angry because the boss would reset as he could not hit me up in the air with the cleric b:chuckle but never with toad.

Thanks again for the replies guys, I have a few different sets of daggers I can mess with and see which is the best for decent damage and at the same time not agro'n.

xD No prob. Just hire me as a Barb as I'm usually in the 700k-3m range with debuffs on fsp bosses =P

People, roll STR Barbs. Aggro problems solved.

As for Bosses in fsp:

Toad:

I usually stand right at the place where he spawns (directly behind him when he spawns) and start off with pentrate armor -> triple spark -> Onslaught and so on. Ofc that requires the squad to wait for my sign to call it. Otherwise I just Holy path to the same spot as mentioned above and do the same stuff.

Blossom:

Not worth mentioning anything really. Just attack and kill.

Mushi:

I noticed only very few people are actually doing it effective. They always tend to pull mushi down the stairs which I find a massive waste of time.

I let one mob alive...go up the stairs and wait for anyone to stand in front of the sockets at the ending of the stairs (which will lead into them not getting pushed away). Once the mobs is dead I spamm Tab + random skill button to immidiatly get aggro. With me being with my back against the wall and the others also unable to get pushed back it usually goes way smoother than the regular way. Granted...with complete randoms that would be a huge mess to get all people to stand there which is why I always duo FSp with my GF. Cleric + Barb = Epicness in FSP (Also helps getting a vortexing twink for Azeroth).

Yes i waste time and 2 sparks pulling mushi with berserkers wrath b:laugh

I use that time to spark while he comes down the stairs though so it doesnt really feel that bad. (With CE)

The most important for mushi efficiency is not to spark every time he gives you sparks. Instead, spark when your spark is about to run out. Use CE/Tea if needed. Make 3 spark cycles in 2 of his chi cycles and be perma sparked.

Him giving you sparks does not kill you if you have 2.99 sparks. I believe actually even when your low into the third spark it doesnt kill you. I dont know exactly, but i have done it like this all the time. There haven been many occasions where i was tired, stoned and whatever and thought that he should have killed me because i sparked too late and he gave me sparks when i was near full yet i didnt die even once.

Socqar - Lost City wrote: »

I didn't know that DOT - axe did reset agro o.o I knew that it was directed to the 2nd main agro keeper after the tank, but reseting agro? That's some nice knowledge...

Easy tip then: Spark-crazy-DD right after you get the DOT on you, it's pretty much save? xD

Hmm, I guess it's depended on how much aggro the barb have been able to build up meanwhile. I wouldnt go full out DD still around beginning. If the boss already below 50% and the dot comes to you, I believe you shouldn't worry too much - of course keep an eye open still. But yes it resets aggro. I've also seen so many clerics failing at the very beginning of toad by healing the barb if he gets stunned at beginning, 0 aggro on barb and toad turns around directly towards cleric ready to do his one-shot. I did so many face palms watching clerics on toad...

The easiest way to not aggro is to just let barb/rest of squad get him down to about half hp before u start attacking. Me personally I just tank him if the barb cant hold aggro. Can be easily tanked if u know how to time ur sparks. He will say "Only Barbarians can tank....", then he will turn, stun the squad and debuff someone, then he will do the one shot. Or if u and someone else have expel, you can take turns expeling and purifying urself. I hope this info helps. Good luck!


b:thanks

For me its that simple:
i tank every boss except toad because im way too lazy to deal with the onehit slash he has, so i equip my APS set and go APS with my bow which deals quiet nice damage over time.

Sure i could go better and try to tank the boss and actually dont be lazy for once but i never saw someone complaining and its not like i do that with every boss.
The rest of the bosses i either tank or deal serious damage so yea.
Most of the time the last boss doesnt even get to his buffs because good BMs wait until he is 10 seconds away from it and throw DG then to kill him fast.

So yea theres that.

PS: sometimes i aggro the toad with my bow which is kind of sad (+0 G15 Nirvana bow with Spirit Blackhole)