NW Tokens

dardedze
dardedze Posts: 8
edited February 2015 in General Discussion
Ok so.... Nw is ***** up.
Dont start to tell me about how i should of had kills how i should of gotten action .. 5 mins beeing in field.blablablablabla. I GOT THAT I HAD IT ALL.
But even when i wake up at 6am....when i had 11k points.. Our nation was in FIRST PLACE. And yet i get 0 Tokens?????
WHELL *** U PWI I AM DONE WITH NW
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  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Battle time. Being "in the field" doesn't cut it. It has to be battle time
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  • Socqar - Lost City
    Socqar - Lost City Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    5 minuts of battle time, you have to check that on each map (press M and up on the right you can see the battle time per field you enter)

    If you calculate how much u got in each field and sum it you have to get those 5 minutes
  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dardedze wrote: »
    Ok so.... Nw is ***** up.
    Dont start to tell me about how i should of had kills how i should of gotten action .. 5 mins beeing in field.blablablablabla. I GOT THAT I HAD IT ALL.
    But even when i wake up at 6am....when i had 11k points.. Our nation was in FIRST PLACE. And yet i get 0 Tokens?????
    WHELL *** U PWI I AM DONE WITH NW
    Since you admittedly afk'd through the NW, since you didn't check your tokens until you 'woke up', I'm pretty sure noone in NW is going to miss you.

    If you want advice or some rational comment on what happened to you, it'd be probably be best not to start off ranting and swearing, when based on what you said, this problem is your own fault as you did not meet the requirements for NW rewards. But you don't want us to tell you what they are...its just blablabla and you had it all. Well obviously you did not.
    Good luck Sunday, when I am sure you haven't actually given up and will AFK again after people do point out the way to do it that meets the requirements and then I'm sure NW won't be so ****ed up then.
  • dardedze
    dardedze Posts: 8
    edited February 2015
    Since you admittedly afk'd through the NW, since you didn't check your tokens until you 'woke up', I'm pretty sure noone in NW is going to miss you.

    Lol... when did i admited i was afk?. I was killing. having action utc... for at least 1h 30 mins. Then i got boored. I am not an alt..and i dont bring 5 dam alts like some.. But if i have to wake up for nw 6am and not be sure that iam gona get tokens.. Aniways . b:bye
  • RankNine - Momaganon
    RankNine - Momaganon Posts: 1,241 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    someone that actively participates in NW, instead of just entering and leaving as many battles as possible will NEVER get 0 tokens. gotta love those guys that come here and complain about their fail attempt of abusing the system.
    wrong section as well. inb4 close.
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  • tmllover
    tmllover Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I also found that sooulforce has a lot to do with how many points you get per fight/map land.


    I can go in and solo a map. Lets say a crystal run. I capture all crystals, kill a person, or kill no one. If someone comes in on my team, and has higher spirit, they will get more points then me simply just by entering. I am not OP by any means but I am running at about 27Kish soulforce.

    Your best chance is to actively participate in the fights/action.
  • Satyrion - Sanctuary
    Satyrion - Sanctuary Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    tmllover wrote: »
    I also found that spirit has a lot to do with how many points you get per fight/map land.


    I can go in and solo a map. Lets say a crystal run. I capture all crystals, kill a person, or kill no one. If someone comes in on my team, and has higher spirit, they will get more points then me simply just by entering. I am not OP by any means but I am running at about 27Kish spirit.

    Your best chance is to actively participate in the fights/action.

    27k spirit? Holy damn!

    I also noticed difference in higher soulforce, but being rank 1 doesn't always mean that you get more points. Forexample yesterday in NW I was alone in a capture flag battle. Before I turned in last flag I waited for squad member, and when he entered I turned in, him being rank 1 and me 2. He has higher soulforce than me. But I still got almost 1k points from the battle, while he got 700ish

    I just think NW is weird lol
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Yes it is weird indeed. Those rankings it gives after the battles. Cant make anything out of that really :p

    someone that actively participates in NW, instead of just entering and leaving as many battles as possible will NEVER get 0 tokens. gotta love those guys that come here and complain about their fail attempt of abusing the system.
    wrong section as well. inb4 close.

    This i agree. I never heard of anyone that i deem trustworthy tell me first hand they got no tokens for actively participating NW.

    So dont try to fool us. And other dont try to educate him on the system. Its really simple, if you are active, you will get tokens.
    Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    For the life of me, people just don't get it. It does not matter how active you are throughout the two hours, if you do not get the min req's to get tokens, you wont get them.
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  • cucujanu
    cucujanu Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wow 300 token bad nation. how empty are your nation wars...............
  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I haven't done NW since the expansion because of all the new alts I have to level BUT....

    Just before the expansion, I did NW on my lvl 61 cleric, best piece of gear is +2 Foundation of World and suffice to say it was 2 hours of being one shot practise for the rest of ya'll....

    I got 350 tokens. OP you're doing something wrong.......
  • foxmike
    foxmike Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    NW is indeed weird. I was in a sqd of two, a fail cleric was with me. We were in sqd the whole NW time. I got 19k points (almost alwaysrank 1 in every field) our nation was 2nd.
    My points = 19k hish
    her points = 6k hish


    My token = 112
    her token = 250

    WTF yeah NW is weird b:cry

    I dont play NW for tokens. Its the fun of PK that matters to me. I dont even take the Tokens from mail box b:surrender
  • rieihdius
    rieihdius Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Mmmm I think that there is a lot of factor that determine the number of tokens on NW, but the ones that get 0 is mostly due being afk.

    I got no tokens only 2 times (at least that I remember) since I play Nation Wars. The first time I got 0 I was really sleepy so I only stay on for like 30 minutes.
    Second time I had this horrible lag and I was constantly being disconnected from the server.

    There is one thing that I noticed on nw: is highly influenced by the Soulforce that the players have. Of course if all have similar level and refines (therefore their Soulforce is similar) this will not be noticed and the thing that will determine your points per war will be your skill and the things you do on nw.

    But on the other hand: if your soulforce is low and someone, lets say 102 with +12 gear enter your war, that person will probably eat all that war score. This is not something that someone told me or that I read somewhere, It is something that I noticed playing some of my toons and it happened the 100% of time to me.

    some examples:
    Capture the flag
    - Me on level 85 mystic with + 2 gear and + 3 weapon, No enemies and No allies at first.
    - I grab flag and take it to capture point.
    - Enemy Psy show up (I cant say his exact gear but it was similar to me since I was able to kill him and he killed me too)
    - Psy kill me and grab flag
    - I kill psy and flag get reseted
    - then allied Barb show up and goes afk, barb is rrr9 + 10 armor and weapon, level 101
    - psy retreat
    - I grab flag second time and win the battle
    -total score 3500 points (aprox) My rank 2 my score 350 points or so <.<

    Bridge Battle
    - Me on level 102 2nd reborn veno rrr9+10, 7 enemies and 8 allies. all of them are low level and / or undergeared, best geared on my side is a g15 seeker.
    - at the moment I enter the battle my nation had destroyed seven towers and the enemies 0
    - I only help to destroy 1 tower
    - and killed 2 enemies: 1sin that kill himself on bramble and one cleric that I one shot
    - So total score: 1295 your rank: 1 your score: 967....

    Seriously WTF I didn't do anything and eat all those guys points b:surrender

  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It's you, OP. It's your playing. The only times I've received 0 tokens, were from quitting a character in a bad nation without bothering to stay in long enough to earn tokens, or I think as a real low lvl that tried to fight it out.

    If you get one shot, stop fighting it out. That earns you no time, since you instantly die. And unless you are a cleric or veno, you're likely helping any by staying around. Leave, and go elsewhere. One shot earns you jack for getting tokens, and eats any food/charms you're using for no use.

    Find either empty or low pop maps with some suitably weaker characters. Those are the ones you can fight, and actually earn on. Though entertainingly, the gear imbalance makes it harder to reach NW token rewards whether spanker or spankee.

    Playing one character I earn around 30K contri, playing two I earn 40k between the two (almost even split). When both are in the same nation, their earnings reflect proper proportion based on their contri score. A 6k score might seem low, but if they are in winning nation they can easily earn more than someone with double their contri in an opposing nation.

    From what I've seen, contri determines your placement. They award set % for each placement. So if enough alts place under you, that will skew the results even if the number of participants is different. Hell, going from 28K to 30K ends up giving about 100 extra tokens, so it gets pretty extreme the higher you place.

    Just one of the many issues regarding NW I have for how they determine scoring. I have gone over the abuses many times in the past, but the funny thing was CSers griped that it was fine as is, and I was just jealous. Except the multiple abuses I outlined, actually provided a blueprint for how weaker players could in fact earn more than CSers, just by abusing the system. Which I am more than happy to do, until enough complain about the broken system.

    Funny thing is, I still end up being more useful for my nation(s) dual boxing, than most OP players are even playing single style. I screenshot the really good ones, just in case one wants to whine and claim I'm exaggerating.
  • tmllover
    tmllover Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    tmllover wrote: »
    I also found that spirit has a lot to do with how many points you get per fight/map land.


    I can go in and solo a map. Lets say a crystal run. I capture all crystals, kill a person, or kill no one. If someone comes in on my team, and has higher spirit, they will get more points then me simply just by entering. I am not OP by any means but I am running at about 27Kish spirit.

    Your best chance is to actively participate in the fights/action.




    EDIT....I meant soulforce and not spirit. My bad
  • Grindata_ - Heavens Tear
    Grindata_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    when im in nw i tend to afk the last 20-30min cause i get bored of going in to die since im trying to earn tokens to r8r my pill baby sin who's in r8 atm just missing boots and wrists.

    my first nw heres how things went i battled for 1hr 30min got 5.1k contribution and 85 tokens and was in the nation that failed. 2nd nw which was yesterday was in winning nation got 7k contribution and earned 120 tokens only afking in the last 10-15min of the war. either ur glitched or ur doing something wrong.
  • Grindata_ - Heavens Tear
    Grindata_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    also dont be shy about more op players then you ive noticed u get more points for dieing in a battle then just standing around doing nothing.
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I've never got 0 tokens when I havent been afk and actually tried to fight with people no matter will I die or not...
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  • Ocypete - Lost City
    Ocypete - Lost City Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sontzu wrote: »


    200-250 players usually. Light Nation was epically bad this week, started with 60+ players, but many quit and were fewer than 40 by the end

    Wow, that tells you something about your server there. On Lost City, we have anywhere from 100-120 per nation to start and ends at around 80-90.
  • Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear
    Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    MMO's the home of **** event times,gg!
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Battle time...battle time. If you like to go for unreliable stuff like that. Sure. If you wanna jump: grab and bring 2 flags to their destinated goals. Done. You will get tokens to a 100% even if thats the only thing you do the whole nw and otherwise just afking at the base.

    Look for empty/no-enemy capture the flag territories. Thats your best bet. I guess I already wrote this a bazillion times on forums. most seem to ignore it. Good.
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  • Reliea - Sanctuary
    Reliea - Sanctuary Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Battle time...battle time. If you like to go for unreliable stuff like that. Sure. If you wanna jump: grab and bring 2 flags to their destinated goals. Done. You will get tokens to a 100% even if thats the only thing you do the whole nw and otherwise just afking at the base.

    Look for empty/no-enemy capture the flag territories. Thats your best bet. I guess I already wrote this a bazillion times on forums. most seem to ignore it. Good.

    This, so true.
    Last night 2 friends and I did NW together; Seeker and I (veno), and a 102 nonrb veno. Seeker and I did active battles, killing people, running flags etc, while the other veno did empty battles running flags etc, and at the end we all came out with pretty much equal tokens, actually the other veno got 10 more tokens than I did at the end!

    I personally prefer doing active battles because I enjoy the action and I'm not too worried about how much reward I get (playing is my reward :D ), but if I wasn't well equipped or high level, I would do the empty ones if I still wanted to participate; it helps your nation AND it gets you decent rewards. If you can't run fast, start crystal or bridge battles, and leave if 3+ enemies join if you don't want to die repeatedly. If I do NW alone, I jump around a lot; battle gets too full? I leave and start a new one or join one that is in need of help, I literally never pay attention to how long I've actually been in a battle and it's never effected me being denied a reward at the end. But then again, I never afk, which I still thinks has the majority of blame for people who end up getting 0 reward at the end.