Sky Pirate

DATALEC - Dreamweaver
DATALEC - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
edited February 2015 in General Discussion
Some people think this is a myth or has never worked probably due to the fact that only a certain amount of people go looking for it and the majority of people just dont know where to look or what your get.
So lets start with you get vitae-mp/hp food/bloods now if your alone in a room you can get maybe 12 conch(3 gives 1000 vitae from quest or u can use them 1 at a time for 200)Then there the mp /hp food not sure on those dont get them lol then pearlsx4(2 pearls from quest give 10 blood or 3 if you use just 1) SO all in all you can get 4k vitae and 20 bloods(quest is once a day for the vitae and bloods so you can get the bonus each day or open each one for less).

Now i know that anyone can make a squad and go looking for drake which would be fine if you can get a random squad that actually know where and what there doing but since 99% of the players dont know where to look and what to look for random squad are not a good idea.Some people might not be in a faction or like me in a faction but your the only one in it so getting faction to look for those people are not an option,people in small factions could try but im guessing not many in those know what to do or have fee people online..

Not to say big factions are wrong to farm drake just to have an extra chance to make an A card or to take people who need vitae or bloods but when this drake spawns 4 times a day and most of the time its 1 faction getting into this instance and the only way anyone else can get inside is to get really lucky and have the pirate spawn on you I think maybe its time people try and change there greedy nature and let others who need vitae and bloods have a chance.

Might be same on other servers not sure but on DW 1 faction constantly finds this and most of the time its the same few people getting in just to get an b-a chest some dont actually need anything they just get pots....

So does this also happen on other servers?
Do you think that this should be a once a day thing but once its killed the portal stays open for 10mins giving people time to find it?
Is it the right of the biggest faction to just take everything and *** the rest of the server or should they try and lead the way and help people other than themselfs?
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  • Fail_BM - Raging Tide
    Fail_BM - Raging Tide Posts: 929 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    "you only get anything in this life if you squash the little peoplw"

    Isn't that how this world works?

    PWE didn't think very well this event.
    So does this also happen on other servers?

    Yes.

    Do you think that this should be a once a day thing but once its killed the portal stays open for 10mins giving people time to find it?

    Yes, but only if they manage to limit the amount of alts per account you can get in. No alts in there.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    tbh, just make the instance accessible once a day for everyone Arcane Sky IX and higher via the Merchant Sokka npc.
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  • Father_gold - Sanctuary
    Father_gold - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    tbh, just make the instance accessible once a day for everyone Arcane Sky IX and higher via the Merchant Sokka npc.

    that would be far too fair.
  • aburiidah
    aburiidah Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I think they should make it accessible to everyone at least once a week and leave the event for sky pirate the way it is for now. So even if people can't do the event they will have the chance to do it once a week.
  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Things like this aren't thought out well are only enjoyed by the large factions. Personally, I've never even tried or gave a second thought to the Drake announcements since I know its pointless to go try.
    Its also not worth me getting upset about. If the large factions want to farm it, power to them. They have the ability to do so and so they will take advantage of it, like most people would when they find something they can take advantage of. Fair or not, it was poorly designed to be this way and that's where the true problem is.
  • Father_gold - Sanctuary
    Father_gold - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    they should just make it a weekly like the weekly morai quest. have to be a certain boundary level and just stick him in a small instance.
  • Ocypete - Lost City
    Ocypete - Lost City Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You are obviously doing it wrong. I alone have found it atleast a dozen times. Once or twice I was pked as I tried to enter. Once or twice I went in with allies from other factions. And several other times I went in alone. You just need to be lucky like with packs. Stop your sniveling and spend some time learning about where he spawns and search for him.
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    All you need to compete against the big factions is to get as many people as them. The more looking, the better.
  • DATALEC - Dreamweaver
    DATALEC - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You are obviously doing it wrong. I alone have found it atleast a dozen times. Once or twice I was pked as I tried to enter. Once or twice I went in with allies from other factions. And several other times I went in alone. You just need to be lucky like with packs. Stop your sniveling and spend some time learning about where he spawns and search for him.

    i do know several location where it spawns and when i needed bloods on my sin or psy yes i found it several time aswell but that was when it first started and once i got all i needed i stopped finding it.I've made an sb hence why i require bloods and vitae yet again but from the time i stopped to now the faction im talking about have had along time to also find out where it spawns and has a few squads searching Vs me so i tend to not find it much now in time.
    I also once did a world chat telling people the location so that some other players could come BUT several of the people in this faction came aswell and even thou i world chatted in order to help so other players do this they came and killed it straight away how nice of them lol...

    Also i heard that someone found it and did a world chat and kalo(from this faction)came an pk'd the person who found it what a nice guy lol
  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Found it solo one time while moving between primal quests. Noone was around. Funny event - got 10 bloods and some vitae from it. How does one get an A card from Drake?
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  • rikurebirths
    rikurebirths Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Found it solo one time while moving between primal quests. Noone was around. Funny event - got 10 bloods and some vitae from it. How does one get an A card from Drake?


    Well it spawns 3 times everyday, timewise i can't help you there cause of timezone and all.

    I can tell you this much, one of the spawn time is certain before reset 1-2 hours (ish) before.

    It spawns on primal world with that being said not in story mode either, height 45-50. My faction ( I mostly bother Eoria b:shutup ) and I usually prepare for it pretty early on and we spread out and have sigents ready.

    As for the C-A pack deal, you need 2 Perals and 10 Coral, IF you are lucky enough you can get 2 C-A chest with a Conch involved too.

    Goodluck and happy hunting. b:cute
  • DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver
    DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Data I can't tell if you're serious or trolling. I know you've already raised this with us in game at least once before, so I'll reply in a "Story mode" way (harr harr xD)

    Let's imagine you and your motley crew are a band of swashbuckling pirates out riding the high seas and you know of a treasure hidden somewhere, you and your crew go in search of it, and after several long months at sea, you uncover these hidden gems. Hooray!

    NOW are you seriously saying that you (or any other band of treasure hunters) would then blare out a foghorn with the GPS coords and invite every other random pirate in the world to come and share your bounty, the limited amount of wealth you and your crew uncovered, free for all to take?

    No? Didn't think so. Really scraping the barrel with the point on morality. It's quite simple.

    Finders keepers, losers weepers. This isn't a new concept, it's been the basis of western society for more than 4000 years.

    The only advantage we have is people willing to wait up to two hours in a squad together to find it. Someone will say in faction chat, forming Drake squad and invites whoever bumps. Sometimes there's two squads. There's nothing stopping you from also forming a squad and looking for it. All it requires is teamwork and communication. Good luck my friend.
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  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    2 pearls and 10 coral... and then do what with it exactly? With a bit of digging my myst should be able to get that amount twice...
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  • rikurebirths
    rikurebirths Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    the Merchant Sokka npc.


    What she said, there will be one in Kirin town, exchange it there.
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Actually we in EQ often get Sky Pirate as well, and thats becouse me and a friend rallied our faction up to try to look for him, at least when i am online

    And we found him a lot

    Really not that hard
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You are obviously doing it wrong. I alone have found it atleast a dozen times. Once or twice I was pked as I tried to enter. Once or twice I went in with allies from other factions. And several other times I went in alone. You just need to be lucky like with packs. Stop your sniveling and spend some time learning about where he spawns and search for him.

    Thanks very much for the help, the assist in where to look, and the support.
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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    b:surrender Tbh I think this is a silly way of looking at it. We can all QQ about bigger factions, stronger players, better gear, cash shoppers, people who are more skilled, people who are jerks, cat shops who charge too much, server lag, and so on.

    Fact is we all have an equal chance at this whether you're in a big faction or not. Pirate drake is not dependant on gear, strength, class, skill, or otherwise. It's all purely luck. And the only way to be "unfair" is by increasing your chances at finding him by having a full squad looking. This isn't a strategy employed by just larger factions unless the people on your server are too lazy/unprepared/have given up hope.

    Get your friends together in a squad and look. Get squad signets.

    I know lots of "little people" who find drake repeatedly just through forward thinking, good planning, and being prepared.

    Other than that, it's just luck. I'm in a bigger faction and we get Drake (when we look for it) maybe 30-50% of the time. That means there are others out there who find it themselves.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Card packs come from Merchant Sokka's purple quest. When you talk to him, he randomly gives 3 quests which are commonly pearl for blood, conch for vitae, etc. Occasionally one of the quest has a purple entry and it's exchange corals and pearls for A pack. Another one is conch and pearl for A pack.
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  • DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver
    DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Card packs come from Merchant Sokka's purple quest. It's rarer to get the quest.

    You can use a coral (I think it's a coral) to refresh his quest list, if the purple quest isn't showing as an option when you look.
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  • Demodude - Dreamweaver
    Demodude - Dreamweaver Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Yeah it is coral to refresh the list. It can be refreshed 5 times if I remember right. And nice story Dark b:laugh
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  • DATALEC - Dreamweaver
    DATALEC - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Let's imagine you and your motley crew are a band of swashbuckling pirates out riding the high seas and you know of a treasure hidden somewhere, you and your crew go in search of it, and after several long months at sea, you uncover these hidden gems. Hooray!.

    be better to say your pirates are on an island and need to find the X and each pirate is searching for it and since your band of pirates is a huge band you can strategically place each one of your pirates around the island it only takes you minutes to find the X rather than a month.
    NOW are you seriously saying that you (or any other band of treasure hunters) would then blare out a foghorn with the GPS coords and invite every other random pirate in the world to come and share your bounty, the limited amount of wealth you and your crew uncovered, free for all to take?.

    I wasn't suggesting you inform people of the location i was saying maybe you could take people other than the same people that do it ALL the time for cards.Limited wealth?There are 4 rooms and 16 people can enter(i think) it spawns 3 times a day.So there plenty of loot to share even if you limit the people in squads to only go searching once a day so at least on the other spawn different people can enter rather than same people all 3 times.
    Finders keepers, losers weepers. This isn't a new concept, it's been the basis of western society for more than 4000 years..

    Good reason to maybe change then
    The only advantage we have is people willing to wait up to two hours in a squad together to find it. Someone will say in faction chat, forming Drake squad and invites whoever bumps. Sometimes there's two squads. There's nothing stopping you from also forming a squad and looking for it. All it requires is teamwork and communication. Good luck my friend.

    Its more like 1hr tbh since the time doesnt differ by 2hrs, as i said about forming squads im not in a faction(devoted only has me active) no point in getting random squads most wouldnt know what to do....Is abit of a troll but honestly its annoying that i see the same people getting pirate for cards when i would be happy finding it once a day and just getting bloods lol or vitae lol
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Drake isn't designed for "letting as many people in as you can". Even with a 10-man Party it can happen that some won't even get ported in. LEt alone if you do this with more then 10 people.

    It's best if you team up with max 6 people for max results for anyone. Indeed. It is a pure luck thing. If you got a good organized Squad (like mine, we get it more then 50% of the time on our server) then it increases your chance of finding it. That's totally ok. It's ok that there is an event for the more organized people, that actually wanna put loads of effort into it and not for the mere, lazy public.

    Heck people always wanna have freebies but totally forget about what kind of stress others put themselves into for stuff like drake. Ofc drake is amazing and I wouldn't be Astral Sky VII on my SB with around 300 spare bloods lying around without it, true. BUT. Imagine planning your whole day around the times drake arrives (well during holidays and vacation only ofc) and only giving yourself time to do other things (even ingame ones like PV and stuff) when drake is gone and you got around 3-5 hours for it to spawn again. Then get ready and blast out thousands of perfect Stones to fuel your flyer and search around that friggin ugly primal world up to 3 times a day for that damn thing. Does that sound like fun? NO! It's not. Is it worth it imho? Yes. Would I grant it to others for free and 0 effort? **** yourselfs.

    Put in effort and organize a squad to look for it or get lost. Always those people that wanna have everything handed to them on a silver plate. If your squad is more effective than mine? Gratz. That's ok. BUt getting in for free? Bwahahahahahaha! GET LOST. Drake isn't unfair, most people are just lazy, greedy pricks.
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I wonder what your poll result would be if you wouldnt state the 2 options like that.

    Im quite a socialist hippy type of guy, but when i see the answers stated like that..... Didnt even read your post or have any idea who the sky pirate is and voted the second one b:pleased
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    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    (well during holidays and vacation only ofc)

    Wut Joe ! you work or go to school on the side ! b:angry
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  • modshadowct
    modshadowct Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Yes, lets go all communist on this pirate. Share it all. Meh, I've found it alone more times than I can count. It's not that hard. People not knowing where to look? That's on them. Plenty of ways to look it up. Now, I go with faction we usually have 4-5 people looking and get it almost everytime. Even small factions can manage that many people most days; They just don't worry about drake. Not the people who find it's fault for caring enough to look.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Personally, I think this should be open once a day to everyone just to promote people to actually play. :/ Heard too many stories since NH hit of people quitting because of how asinine getting cards are and how much more effort it takes now to get a character even halfway decent. Allowing everyone to access it once a day via an npc would alleviate so much of this. :/
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  • Demodude - Dreamweaver
    Demodude - Dreamweaver Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited February 2015

    Its more like 1hr tbh since the time doesnt differ by 2hrs

    It actually is 2 hours. The spawn windows are each 2 hours. And there have been many times where it will spawn in the last 5-10 minutes of the window and we do spend 2 hours waiting for it (of course playing an alt or doing something other than sitting and watching the computer screen for 2 straight hours b:chuckle )
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Drake isn't designed for "letting as many people in as you can". Even with a 10-man Party it can happen that some won't even get ported in. LEt alone if you do this with more then 10 people.

    It's best if you team up with max 6 people for max results for anyone. Indeed. It is a pure luck thing. If you got a good organized Squad (like mine, we get it more then 50% of the time on our server) then it increases your chance of finding it. That's totally ok. It's ok that there is an event for the more organized people, that actually wanna put loads of effort into it and not for the mere, lazy public.

    Heck people always wanna have freebies but totally forget about what kind of stress others put themselves into for stuff like drake. Ofc drake is amazing and I wouldn't be Astral Sky VII on my SB with around 300 spare bloods lying around without it, true. BUT. Imagine planning your whole day around the times drake arrives (well during holidays and vacation only ofc) and only giving yourself time to do other things (even ingame ones like PV and stuff) when drake is gone and you got around 3-5 hours for it to spawn again. Then get ready and blast out thousands of perfect Stones to fuel your flyer and search around that friggin ugly primal world up to 3 times a day for that damn thing. Does that sound like fun? NO! It's not. Is it worth it imho? Yes. Would I grant it to others for free and 0 effort? **** yourselfs.

    Put in effort and organize a squad to look for it or get lost. Always those people that wanna have everything handed to them on a silver plate. If your squad is more effective than mine? Gratz. That's ok. BUt getting in for free? Bwahahahahahaha! GET LOST. Drake isn't unfair, most people are just lazy, greedy pricks.


    Exactly the red part. We were 10 man squad and I didn't get in. So even though you can fit 16 theoretically, it's not always possible.
  • DATALEC - Dreamweaver
    DATALEC - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Heck people always wanna have freebies but totally forget about what kind of stress others put themselves into for stuff like drake. Would I grant it to others for free and 0 effort? **** yourselfs.

    Put in effort and organize a squad to look for it or get lost. Always those people that wanna have everything handed to them on a silver plate. If your squad is more effective than mine? Gratz. That's ok. BUt getting in for free? Bwahahahahahaha! GET LOST. Drake isn't unfair, most people are just lazy, greedy pricks.

    as i said in post #22 im not suggesting people sit around wait for someone to find it and signet them to the pirate...i was just saying that its unfair that the same people tend to find it rather like yourself you say you find it 50% of the time so half the time an instance that can fit upto 16(yes i know some might not get in but thats random who will then)is being done by 6 people and the same 6 people.

    One point is people are greedy like yourself that stockpile bloods and vitae and instead of thinking wait a minute i have enough i will let another group get some.They don't... they continue to farm it everyday when they don't really need it , this is especially true to the people that do it to get the Cards.

    Things will not change i do my part by only looking for it at 1 time slot and when i have enough i will stop like i stopped on my sin and psy.Maybe the whole pirate issue isn't even that bad after all in time people get max spirit and there skills but be nice for a change to see people helping people by forming squads with different people in squad rather than the same ones all the time giving others a chance to hunt for it too .....WORLD PEACE
  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Drake isn't designed for "letting as many people in as you can". Even with a 10-man Party it can happen that some won't even get ported in. LEt alone if you do this with more then 10 people.

    It's best if you team up with max 6 people for max results for anyone. Indeed. It is a pure luck thing. If you got a good organized Squad (like mine, we get it more then 50% of the time on our server) then it increases your chance of finding it. That's totally ok. It's ok that there is an event for the more organized people, that actually wanna put loads of effort into it and not for the mere, lazy public.

    Heck people always wanna have freebies but totally forget about what kind of stress others put themselves into for stuff like drake. Ofc drake is amazing and I wouldn't be Astral Sky VII on my SB with around 300 spare bloods lying around without it, true. BUT. Imagine planning your whole day around the times drake arrives (well during holidays and vacation only ofc) and only giving yourself time to do other things (even ingame ones like PV and stuff) when drake is gone and you got around 3-5 hours for it to spawn again. Then get ready and blast out thousands of perfect Stones to fuel your flyer and search around that friggin ugly primal world up to 3 times a day for that damn thing. Does that sound like fun? NO! It's not. Is it worth it imho? Yes. Would I grant it to others for free and 0 effort? **** yourselfs.

    Put in effort and organize a squad to look for it or get lost. Always those people that wanna have everything handed to them on a silver plate. If your squad is more effective than mine? Gratz. That's ok. BUt getting in for free? Bwahahahahahaha! GET LOST. Drake isn't unfair, most people are just lazy, greedy pricks.

    It sounds like you're implying that a lot of the people who don't look for drake, or haven't found drake are lazy, unorganized, and just not good enough to get it.

    I do agree that a squad shouldn't have to invite random people that they don't even know. That's would be nice if they did, but considering the nature of drake, I likely wouldn't invite random people either, since the more people present in that general area, the less likely the chance that myself, and my squad will get in, even though we did the work to find it. I know the faction(s) that OP is talking about. It is true that they (one in particular) dominate him on my server, to the point that no one else can really compete much. It is also true that they put forth effort to do so. It's nice that their work is rewarded, but the fix on this shouldn't be player based. Of course, they're going to level their alts, try to gain more A cards, etc. Who wouldn't? PWI needs to fix this, and I fully agree with Eoria about making the instance accessible through a npc once a day.

    Now, I've mentioned that those factions deserve to be rewarded for their work, but now let me point something else out.... It's not like other factions, other squads, other random people haven't been trying to look for drake. Many people, like myself have never even seen a glimpse of him, and I've been searching. I know a few spawn areas only because a few of my friends were nice enough to show me. Most of the playerbase doesn't even know that much. I've burned up a lot of genie energy on my flyer too, and my time and my effort wielded nothing. I gave up on getting Drake because of a few reasons....First, the system message for him coming and going can be less than a minute after he spawns, and I only know approximate areas. Secondly, I already finished gaining my bloods, via UCH and dailies. My efforts to find drake have always been fruitless, but I did put forth the effort. I'm not implying that I should get everything for free, or that factions should give it for free. I just feel that the whole system for him needs to be reworked, to make it fair for the entire playerbase.


    Personally, I think this should be open once a day to everyone just to promote people to actually play. :/ Heard too many stories since NH hit of people quitting because of how asinine getting cards are and how much more effort it takes now to get a character even halfway decent. Allowing everyone to access it once a day via an npc would alleviate so much of this. :/

    I 100% agree with you. +1.

    @OP: I don't feel that the squads should have to invite random people, specifically because of how broken Drake's system is already. I think that PWI should alter it, and the solution that Eoria offers is a good one in my opinion.
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