How does rebirth work? Is it worth it?

Phyllon - Archosaur
Phyllon - Archosaur Posts: 10 Arc User
edited January 2015 in General Discussion
I was testing out my skills on Krixxix last night and noticed that it took me about a minute to drop him... Then this psychic comes along and drops him in two hits. She tells me that it's because she's RB2, and suggested I try it.

I'm interested, but I wanted to know if it was worth it. I did some reading and saw that it costs about 1000 gold. Is this actually the case?

I don't think I'd even consider spending that kind of money on a game, can't imagine why anyone would... o.o
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  • rawrepicfail
    rawrepicfail Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I was testing out my skills on Krixxix last night and noticed that it took me about a minute to drop him... Then this psychic comes along and drops him in two hits. She tells me that it's because she's RB2, and suggested I try it.

    I'm interested, but I wanted to know if it was worth it. I did some reading and saw that it costs about 1000 gold. Is this actually the case?

    I don't think I'd even consider spending that kind of money on a game, can't imagine why anyone would... o.o

    While being rb2 is helpful for killing things faster because of the stat boosts there are alot of other factors that go into play also. The biggest difference being what type of gear this person has. If she was rank 9 that would be what would cost 1000 gold that you may have been looking at. However they could easily drop krixxix in lower gear. Tier 3 nirvana is farmable in game and does perfectly above and beyond anything needed in pve. Rebirthing itself is relatively free. For the first rebirth you need an item which you get for free in the quest line to get your rebirth. The 2nd needs 2 items that are acquired from dailies that you get after rebirthing. There's guides around the forums about rebirthing just need to do some searches.
  • Phyllon - Archosaur
    Phyllon - Archosaur Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit worried! ^_^ I might still try it then.
  • rawrepicfail
    rawrepicfail Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit worried! ^_^ I might still try it then.

    No problem, rebirthing opens up alot of options for your toon such as primal passives which is another free stat boost available to us. So it is definately worth it.
  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    UMMMM After they stop Fc Power leveling no.

    first rebirth is 4x exp and literaly stops being 4x after you hit 100 second is 3x something the way things are with repair bills no jones blessing, dq being worth 1 gold and armor drops only being worth 150 coin and you have a 8 hour cap to earn xp absolutely not.


    They will be people running in here telling you different that are pros in this game but for an average gamer with some social life nope.

    this game is seriously crippled im surprise i dont see spam like coca cola flashing across are screen and to keep playing click on this ad lol or spam in are toon inbox saying enlarge your lolb:chuckle

    its goten bad

    if you do re-wake id do it at lv 102 plus save on fantasy fruit from lucid and pills that give you xp etc bounty hunter rewards always take the exp pills and always take the brain pill bh 1 and drunk from endless universe save up alot befor you rewake 2nd time

    anything that gives you xp pills scrolls and the like save up.

    i hope pwi fixs the ablity to at least earn enough to fix your gear

    people will argue you can do cube and some bounty hunter quest reward you with 2mil 5 mil cards but they leave out its random reward.

    honestly im rewaken and i will not rewake a second time till i have enough xp saved up to get to at least 101 from fruit silver scrolls brain pills and the big crazy stone exp pills and drunk xp pills and have done the math 1-100 x3xp and whats left to get to lv 101.

    and to those people up in arms all i say this fix the game and i wont have anything to say about it lol
  • rawrepicfail
    rawrepicfail Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    UMMMM After they stop Fc Power leveling no.

    first rebirth is 4x exp and literaly stops being 4x after you hit 100 second is 3x something the way things are with repair bills no jones blessing, dq being worth 1 gold and armor drops only being worth 150 coin and you have a 8 hour cap to earn xp absolutely not.


    They will be people running in here telling you different that are pros in this game but for an average gamer with some social life nope.

    this game is seriously crippled im surprise i dont see spam like coca cola flashing across are screen and to keep playing click on this ad lol or spam in are toon inbox saying enlarge your lolb:chuckle

    its goten bad

    if you do re-wake id do it at lv 102 plus save on fantasy fruit from lucid and pills that give you xp etc bounty hunter rewards always take the exp pills and always take the brain pill bh 1 and drunk from endless universe save up alot befor you rewake 2nd time

    anything that gives you xp pills scrolls and the like save up.

    i hope pwi fixs the ablity to at least earn enough to fix your gear

    people will argue you can do cube and some bounty hunter quest reward you with 2mil 5 mil cards but they leave out its random reward.

    honestly im rewaken and i will not rewake a second time till i have enough xp saved up to get to at least 101 from fruit silver scrolls brain pills and the big crazy stone exp pills and drunk xp pills and have done the math 1-100 x3xp and whats left to get to lv 101.

    and to those people up in arms all i say this fix the game and i wont have anything to say about it lol

    I dont disagree with this guy but at 100 rb1 you can get in fsp. People will buy items that you can make from fsp so if you really need the money thats an option. Theres also joj quests that give small amounts of money but it isnt rng dependent. I dont consider myself an hardcore player but i've never had problems paying for my repairs and i never even bothered with botting for dq items before the changes. so meh.
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited January 2015
    I dont disagree with this guy but at 100 rb1 you can get in fsp. People will buy items that you can make from fsp so if you really need the money thats an option. Theres also joj quests that give small amounts of money but it isnt rng dependent. I dont consider myself an hardcore player but i've never had problems paying for my repairs and i never even bothered with botting for dq items before the changes. so meh.

    With the exp boost, and the other quests, it's extremely easy to level without FCC when you RB. PV isn't as much of a challenge and is pretty easy to solo. You've probably still got loads of quests that you never did previously, and guess what, not only is the grind gone from them for the most part, but the rewards for exp, spirit, and coin have been increased.

    The part that most people seem to be having a problem with, is that it requires actually playing. A game isn't a handout, but an experience. If you want a handout, go find a slot machine.
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  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    b:dirtydid you say you can do jolly jones after rewake b:thanks ohhhhh ty so much master i will one day remove peble from your hand.

    if that is true that be awesome.

    but i notice on my rewake id get things like lv to low to complete this quest etc thought they nerf anything good didnt think you can stack high lv bh before rewake can you?


    i mean if you can stack lv 100 bounty hunter quests and rewake and get xp at 3x or 4x b:dirty drewllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg




    Pwi new slogan should be Nerf or Nothing b:chuckle Just saying
  • rawrepicfail
    rawrepicfail Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    b:dirtydid you say you can do jolly jones after rewake b:thanks ohhhhh ty so much master i will one day remove peble from your hand.

    if that is true that be awesome.

    but i notice on my rewake id get things like lv to low to complete this quest etc thought they nerf anything good didnt think you can stack high lv bh before rewake can you?


    i mean if you can stack lv 100 bounty hunter quests and rewake and get xp at 3x or 4x b:dirty drewllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg




    Pwi new slogan should be Nerf or Nothing b:chuckle Just saying

    lol make an alt and do joj. I was just giving the guy some suggestions. stop being a troll. Like sylen said people dont realize you actually have to play the game. which is what i'm going to go do now. b:kiss
  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lvl 65 and I rebirthed for the first time on my SB about 3 hours ago. If anyone has trouble releveling after rebirthing, they really suck at this game. I mean god-awfully.
  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    b:chuckleSylen is right you can level really fast on your 1st rewake if you had save all your old low level quests unfortunately i loved the game so even tho i Fc alot and power leveled i made mistake of doing all my quests.


    Just cause you power leveled doesn't mean you don't enjoy story lines and cool quest lines like the one where you go to find the girl and she dead when you find her that was so messed up all that work and turns out her corpse is right there dead i felt like final fantasy when aries diedb:cry


    this game is really beautiful and i did enjoy or the cartoon movies after rewake with the children quest line ps pwi should do alot more animated story lines just saying.

    But what Sylen left out was that we now have an 8 hour cap take that into consideration if you have mob quest yeah you have the quest exp but you wont get xp from those mob quests if your past that 8 hour cap which is like what?


    if your going to cap us xp it shouldn't count against mobs that are in quest once you reach your goal then the earning time should turn back on just saying
  • rawrepicfail
    rawrepicfail Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    b:chuckleSylen is right you can level really fast on your 1st rewake if you had save all your old low level quests unfortunately i loved the game so even tho i Fc alot and power leveled i made mistake of doing all my quests.


    Just cause you power leveled doesn't mean you don't enjoy story lines and cool quest lines like the one where you go to find the girl and she dead when you find her that was so messed up all that work and turns out her corpse is right there dead i felt like final fantasy when aries diedb:cry


    this game is really beautiful and i did enjor the cartoon movies after rewake with the children quest line ps pwi should do alot more animated story lines just saying.

    But what Sylen left out was that we now have an 8 hour cap take that into consideration if you have mob quest yeah you have the quest exp but you wont get xp from those mob quests if your past that 8 hour cap which is like what?


    if your going to cap us xp it shouldn't count against mobs that are in quest once you reach your goal then the earning time should turn back on just saying

    If you are expecting to play long enough to wipe out 8 hours of earning time a day.....I think you need to turn the comp off. b:chuckle
  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    You should try PvP non RB vs RB2 for laughs.

    I once hit a non-RB player for 200k or so.

    Surely that was also about a gear difference, but still RB is a must. Passive skills, active skills, spirit, war avatars, extra stat points.

    Indeed it sucks that you cant FC anymore. Going from level 80 to 100 will be anoying again, even at 4x exp. Probably best to simply have some patience and autocultivate for exp. I guess you can use hypers on that if you like. (at the rarely used settings that give not so much XP but for a longer time)
    Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.
  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    b:sad i cant this game is freaking crack highly addicting they reel us in with awesomeness then they nerf us there MMO pushers its like you want a hit your going to have to pay nowb:pleased


    b:cryDamn you pwi pulls out american express my visa maxed out you take food stamps ebt card i think i got cash benifitsb:surrender
  • Keisari - Raging Tide
    Keisari - Raging Tide Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    If you are expecting to play long enough to wipe out 8 hours of earning time a day.....I think you need to turn the comp off. b:chuckle

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  • Illyn - Raging Tide
    Illyn - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Level 9x quests currently give around 1.5 to 2m exp for rb players requiring you to kill only 15 or 30 mobs. I lvled my rb2 wizard up from 96 to 99 after only a few hours of questing.

    My mystic was rbed for 2nd time 3 days ago and she's already lvl 7x even playing only 2 hours daily.

    It's extremely easy to lvl up rb toons, even without FC, especially if you have a decent weapon.
  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    b:cute i might look into that i know they mention they refine quests and xp associated with old quests and something about grinding mobs in quest can any confirm this is true ?
  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    UMMMM After they stop Fc Power leveling no.

    first rebirth is 4x exp and literaly stops being 4x after you hit 100 second is 3x something the way things are with repair bills no jones blessing, dq being worth 1 gold and armor drops only being worth 150 coin and you have a 8 hour cap to earn xp absolutely not.


    They will be people running in here telling you different that are pros in this game but for an average gamer with some social life nope.

    this game is seriously crippled im surprise i dont see spam like coca cola flashing across are screen and to keep playing click on this ad lol or spam in are toon inbox saying enlarge your lolb:chuckle

    its goten bad

    if you do re-wake id do it at lv 102 plus save on fantasy fruit from lucid and pills that give you xp etc bounty hunter rewards always take the exp pills and always take the brain pill bh 1 and drunk from endless universe save up alot befor you rewake 2nd time

    anything that gives you xp pills scrolls and the like save up.

    i hope pwi fixs the ablity to at least earn enough to fix your gear

    people will argue you can do cube and some bounty hunter quest reward you with 2mil 5 mil cards but they leave out its random reward.

    honestly im rewaken and i will not rewake a second time till i have enough xp saved up to get to at least 101 from fruit silver scrolls brain pills and the big crazy stone exp pills and drunk xp pills and have done the math 1-100 x3xp and whats left to get to lv 101.

    and to those people up in arms all i say this fix the game and i wont have anything to say about it lol

    Not sure if this is the biggest load of garbage I ever read, but would be pretty close.

    There are NO downsides to RB'ing.
  • Reliea - Sanctuary
    Reliea - Sanctuary Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Definitely rebirth yourself.
    Like MegaMERC said, there is no downside.
    It really doesn't take as long as you think it will, I know, I was skeptical myself, but it is 100% worth it.
    If you don't, you're cutting out a big chunk of ways to improve your char since some things require a certain stage of RB for you to have access to them, and you will feel a giant improvement in your power just from RBing, even if you do nothing else but level to rb2 100+ Depending on your class you can get some awesome skill upgrades that you need to RB and do Primal dailies for. The new Passive skills alone are 200% worth the effort.

    Even when you could hyper in FCC I rarely went, if at all; with the xp bonus you get from killing mobs and completing quests, plus bhs, morai dailies (with bonus xp pills), even PV and other random xp pills they throw at you, getting back to 100 is no trouble at all.
    Just make sure you do as many quests as you can while you rb the first time, since that will give you the biggest bonus return on quest xp/pill xp, then on rb2 make sure to do all the dailies you can and any spare quests you didn't complete on the first rb.
  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    But what Sylen left out was that we now have an 8 hour cap take that into consideration if you have mob quest yeah you have the quest exp but you wont get xp from those mob quests if your past that 8 hour cap which is like what?

    Ok, I got on this morning and did two runs of 95+ PV to get lvl 100, then hit rebirth. Used the freebie fantasy fruit I stocked 10 of, plus the freebies from Questmaster. Used a few of the scarlet fruit, still have 22 leftover from Perfect Quests for 2nd rebirth. Used the 3 weak profundity scrolls, still have level 6 one left for 2nd rebirth.

    Soloed through BHs, ran the PV for 30-44, 45-60 twice each, and then joined a really crappy 61-74 before saying **** it, and jumping out and soloing my own instead, since they did so terrible in it, and I was wasting hyper with them just basically leeching.

    Then started killing off quests to make up for the terrible PV, and I'm about to hit lvl 73 sitting meditating. Then I will get back to playing and most likely hit 80+, with any luck 95 but not likely.

    The point? I used only 1 hour and 17 minutes of earning time. All those hours of questing, crazy stoning, grinding my level up only came to 77 minutes.

    If you are questing, and you use 8 hours earning time up, you're likely been playing 12-16 hours in that one day. Trying to make 8 hours earning seem like 8 hours playtime, truly means you are doing something terribly wrong.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I already have stacked 50 fantasy fruit bags for my storm for when she will be reborned.
    I was wandering what lvl I will get if I use them all at lvl 1 rb. I should get up to lvl40 no?
    My math is not that good. Kinda skipped math lessons or didnt pay any attention when i was in schoolb:chuckle
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I wouldnt worry about the lower levels. When i rebirthed, i simply did all the BHs once or twice starting BH19. Within an hour or so (dont remember that well, maybe it was 2 but surely no more) That easilly brought me to the level where i could wear all my equipment and solo FC. (something in the 40s)
    Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited January 2015
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  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    b:chuckleTOLD YOU THEY SHOW UP LMFAO i remember 4x geting from 99-100 was brutal all i know is there's a point when your like why did i reawaken just saying i known some op guys that went threw that god so weak well till you get back to the lv you were and you will see a huge difference but the way things are ehhh im good you can keep it little longer thx but no thx.


    But if they did a huge xp boost on old quests and added new ones with huge difference i might reconsider tell thenb:bye
  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    b:chuckleTOLD YOU THEY SHOW UP LMFAO i remember 4x geting from 99-100 was brutal all i know is there's a point when your like why did i reawaken just saying i known some op guys that went threw that god so weak well till you get back to the lv you were and you will see a huge difference but the way things are ehhh im good you can keep it little longer thx but no thx.


    But if they did a huge xp boost on old quests and added new ones with huge difference i might reconsider tell thenb:bye

    How is using the awakened weapon, with sky demon pearl and demon slaughter belt OP? That's the OP gear I was using when soloing the first few PVs. I don't have/didn't need NW+12 ornies to do it, it really is easy as a good player. And even with the awakened weapon, the mobs were still one shots in there.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    laiwaisan wrote: »
    b:chuckleTOLD YOU THEY SHOW UP LMFAO i remember 4x geting from 99-100 was brutal all i know is there's a point when your like why did i reawaken just saying i known some op guys that went threw that god so weak well till you get back to the lv you were and you will see a huge difference but the way things are ehhh im good you can keep it little longer thx but no thx.


    But if they did a huge xp boost on old quests and added new ones with huge difference i might reconsider tell thenb:bye

    to translate what you said:
    bla bla bla bla,snif snif snif,b:cryb:cry

    Games are made to be played.
    b:bye
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  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I already have stacked 50 fantasy fruit bags for my storm for when she will be reborned.
    I was wandering what lvl I will get if I use them all at lvl 1 rb. I should get up to lvl40 no?
    My math is not that good. Kinda skipped math lessons or didnt pay any attention when i was in schoolb:chuckle

    I think I only used 15 fantasy fruit and 2 scarlet fruit, which were free from Lucidsilver/perfect questmaster. That got me to 30, at which point I ran PV twice and made it almost to next PV. Then did BH and turned in for 2nd, then got red quest that also required qingzi and did it again. Saved BH2 to turn in when I hit 50 after another dual set of PV, still soloable but the mobs were a bit more than one shots. I also had a B card in Destroyer and Battle; both free from the giveaways both with arc, and the website that sponsored extra ones.

    For the 97-100 range, that's just being smart. Do the celestial tiger events, I did the past 2 and made 2nd place. Didn't use alts to give extra contribution, so didn't score the highest. Which works out better, since in 2nd place you get 1 million coins and 10 silver chest rewards. From those I've already gained around 40+ celestial tiger of the orange kind. Should be 60+ by the time I reach 97 again, and 3 million coins. Also received 2 sage/demon event cards, which I've used to get free health charms from event boutique.

    Sell some off if you need cash, and craft CoF letters. Use these to run the cube multiple times, plus the free one a day. Each run gives you 4 million xp, possibly more with room 49. Doing the free one with duty badge, plus just one CoF letter run at lvl 99 will give you 27% to the next level. Add that to BHs and other dailies, and it's stupid easy to go from 99 to 100 with using only what you get from the game.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I think I only used 15 fantasy fruit and 2 scarlet fruit, which were free from Lucidsilver/perfect questmaster. That got me to 30, at which point I ran PV twice and made it almost to next PV. Then did BH and turned in for 2nd, then got red quest that also required qingzi and did it again. Saved BH2 to turn in when I hit 50 after another dual set of PV, still soloable but the mobs were a bit more than one shots. I also had a B card in Destroyer and Battle; both free from the giveaways both with arc, and the website that sponsored extra ones.

    For the 97-100 range, that's just being smart. Do the celestial tiger events, I did the past 2 and made 2nd place. Didn't use alts to give extra contribution, so didn't score the highest. Which works out better, since in 2nd place you get 1 million coins and 10 silver chest rewards. From those I've already gained around 40+ celestial tiger of the orange kind. Should be 60+ by the time I reach 97 again, and 3 million coins. Also received 2 sage/demon event cards, which I've used to get free health charms from event boutique.

    Sell some off if you need cash, and craft CoF letters. Use these to run the cube multiple times, plus the free one a day. Each run gives you 4 million xp, possibly more with room 49. Doing the free one with duty badge, plus just one CoF letter run at lvl 99 will give you 27% to the next level. Add that to BHs and other dailies, and it's stupid easy to go from 99 to 100 with using only what you get from the game.

    I am not worried about lvl up fast after RB cause I know it will be posible.
    I was just curios what lvl I will be after I use 50 fantasy fruits at lvl 1 RB.So i did the math again this time using:https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpwi-wiki.perfectworld.com%2Findex.php%2FExperience_Points&ei=WGynVMLvHKWHygP414GADA&usg=AFQjCNFGAwmU4TZ-Z0baDPJDJh3tRoJurQ&sig2=Rch36nV-mdCtiO74Un_Y7A
    Its like 50x5000=250000
    250000x4=1000000
    So in fact looking at https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpwi-wiki.perfectworld.com%2Findex.php%2FExperience_Points&ei=WGynVMLvHKWHygP414GADA&usg=AFQjCNFGAwmU4TZ-Z0baDPJDJh3tRoJurQ&sig2=Rch36nV-mdCtiO74Un_Y7A
    And looking at experience point tablet on that page
    I should be lvl 68 or 69 just using those 50 fruits. But I dont know if I am doing the math right.
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Doubt RB has huge impact on killing Krixxix, kept 1 shotting him before the whole thing came out. b:surrender
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