DQ System Update?

Can someone tell me where all the coin goes?

Obviously, people want coin to buy things. They buy things from players who charge exhorbitent prices because other players are willing to pay that much.

I realize some people want lots of coin to buy gold, but the people who sell gold get that large amount of coin too.



I have no way to know for sure, but I'm curious if for some of those bots' owners that it wouldn't be faster to actually earn whatever/make whatever item they need/want by working for it rather than grinding coin to buy it. (obviously that would not be the case if they want Boutique Gold).



And I've a horribly awful idea I suddenly like to see for the anarchy it would cause!

Just what would happen if there was an inflation cap on all Catshop and Auction - Buy transactions. By that I mean pretend the most you could charge for an item may be like x1000 time the NPC sell price. Take one of those Pack Flyers whose NPC price is 10000 coin. Max Catshop or Buy Now price then is 1,000,000.

I wouldn't limit the price for direct player to player trades, nor a limit if an item is actually bid on in the Auction House rather than straight bought, so there are options - ones that would require direct player interaction.

Don't think it would ever happen, even at a 10k inflation cap, but Part of me would like to watch what sort of chaos such a change would bring ::cackles evilly::




Disreguarding the momentary anachic thoughts - please tell me aside from player trading (inc. Gold) where do the Coins go?

orangeladey wrote: »

Can someone tell me where all the coin goes?

Obviously, people want coin to buy things. They buy things from players who charge exhorbitent prices because other players are willing to pay that much.

I realize some people want lots of coin to buy gold, but the people who sell gold get that large amount of coin too.



I have no way to know for sure, but I'm curious if for some of those bots' owners that it wouldn't be faster to actually earn whatever/make whatever item they need/want by working for it rather than grinding coin to buy it. (obviously that would not be the case if they want Boutique Gold).



And I've a horribly awful idea I suddenly like to see for the anarchy it would cause!

Just what would happen if there was an inflation cap on all Catshop and Auction - Buy transactions. By that I mean pretend the most you could charge for an item may be like x1000 time the NPC sell price. Take one of those Pack Flyers whose NPC price is 10000 coin. Max Catshop or Buy Now price then is 1,000,000.

I wouldn't limit the price for direct player to player trades, nor a limit if an item is actually bid on in the Auction House rather than straight bought, so there are options - ones that would require direct player interaction.

Don't think it would ever happen, even at a 10k inflation cap, but Part of me would like to watch what sort of chaos such a change would bring ::cackles evilly::




Disreguarding the momentary anachic thoughts - please tell me aside from player trading (inc. Gold) where do the Coins go?

The coins are/were probably used for nw gear upgrades which with sog coin fees can be upwards of 200m coins per piece. Other than that people are buying gold/dod/dot/matchless wings/c packs, pretty much anything endgame.

DoodsWH - Sanctuary wrote: »

If you are asking where does the coin go as in get taken out of the game then repairs, teleing, various forms of end game upgrading and High end base gear. the packs , buying gold, buying stuff from peoples catshops do nothing to take coin out of the economy, it merely recycles around.

out of it all i think the base helm is several billion coins. that would be the largest coin sink to take coin out at the moment. but the amount of base points you need takes awhile plus people tend to horde a sht ton of coin in the form of big notes. just in case.

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The coins are/were probably used for nw gear upgrades which with sog coin fees can be upwards of 200m coins per piece. Other than that people are buying gold/dod/dot/matchless wings/c packs, pretty much anything endgame.

Thanks for explaining guys, I had no idea that the manufacturing fees and such were so high for the newer stuff. A pity that from what everyones ranting about that the prices seem set to meet the supply of coin rather than the supply of goods.

And it always seems sad to me that end-game seems to be what everyone rushes towards. But when bosses are impossible and not just a hard fight for your level, I do understand the desire to be stronger. I;ve only played intermitently, and also dragged my level progression out trying to accomplish some tasks when they are more challenging so the whole idea of an end-game thing is something I kind of dread, even if I do understand.

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

Bump.

Sparkie hasn't gotten back to my PM from last week. Another frankie-type of CM, unfortunately. Will send a ticket in tomorrow when I get a chance.

See frankie always responded to my PM's but I can't get anything from Sparkie. frankie was also more vocal and kept us better updated. Not sure what Sparkie is doing, but it's obvious he's not really here.

The DQ system we had was fine and i didn't seen any problem with it, if there would be no bot, then i believe it would work perfectly now.

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

For people interested...

PWE contacted me this morning, and since we aren't able to copy-paste these jokes of "support", I'll paraphrase what the support staff stated.

Intern support staff that doesn't read tickets at all:
"Hi! I see that you are upset with some DQ issue. We will contact you at some point in the future to let you know it has been resolved, and will forward this issue to the developers when we get a chance. Thanks!"

WTF!?!?!

I replied and stated that they should actually read my lengthy ticket and it's not in regards to a DQ issue I'm having, but instead in regards to the open-forum issue dating back to 2013 on the DQ promise.

Anyways, I'll continue sending tickets and responses for as long as it takes.

PWE needs to get their act together. Seriously. You are a company that is supported by micro transactions from players, but the players are unable to contact anyone from the company. How is that logical?

Oh DON'T just DON'T bother with pwi support, they literally don't give a damn about anything, they will copy paste same answer, and then will just put ''support replied'' if you keep sending tickets no matter if you change something. And if you keep sending tickets even after that they will just ban you.

Bump for all reasons logical i do not need to state. Would be nice as usually to get a legit GM response in regards to this issue. I mean seriously it seems like this thread is getting totally ignored like the plague by them.

zoner112012 wrote: »

Bumping yet again so this doesnt get forgotten. Come on how hard is it for a GM to say SOMETHING about this?

I don't mean this in a rude way at all, but wouldn't it save a lot of heartburn to simply let the issue die an inglorious death?

I'm quite certain after the next expansion, when NO DQ items have value, there will be such an outcry and possible large-scale defection from the game that some prompt action will be taken. I spend some rl cash on the game, but I also enjoy grinding -- auto and not -- and when I no longer have incentive to do it, a huge component of what I enjoy about the game will have been lost. I'll probably return to one of PW's older and much more successful, less P2W competitors, where a vibrant commodities trade system still exists.

Just saying, PWE, don't care if you comment now or not, but I hope you're not sitting on your collective thumbs concerning this issue.

I just love how Sparkie and co. repeatedly avoid this thread and the stickied one like if they were detected land mines that could never be disarmed.

Good company representants don't hide skeletons in their closets~. b:surrender

b:victory

I'm going to quote myself here: I don't expect to see a new DQ system at all in the future. Its just a bunch of false propaganda so they could do away with the DQ system and not get backlash from their gaming community.