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I was told TW factions decided not to TW this weekend as a form of "moment of silence" in honor of Tam and people are upset because Hoorah bid.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

*shrug* Says enough about them.

Couldn't agree more.

Anyone who says "vindi did it cuz they dun wanna tw", is not only disrespectful to the gesture, but totally insane.

True, you don't have to do something nice when someone asks you politely.
Every other TW faction was happy to oblige.
For one person, the world has stopped, sometimes it's nice to acknowledge that.
It's lovely that even in an online community where 99% of the people you meet you will never see in person, that you can still touch someones life enough that they feel the emptiness you leave when you're gone.
There were 100+ people at the in-game memorial, people from all over the world who can gather in a digital place, who can't always gather in person, and I still find that so amazing.

Read Bud's post later in this thread, the gesture truly touched Tam's IRL family, and that feels like it was worth it 100x over.

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

I was told TW factions decided not to TW this weekend as a form of "moment of silence" in honor of Tam and people are upset because Hoorah bid.

Not being insensitive but, the world doesn't stop when rl things happen. Having a moment of silence on a game is absurd, you're simply asking for drama and trolls, and carrying that moment of silence over to Saturday is just silly. Everyone knows that everyone will still be on the game doing whatever else they're doing. If you consider the game a fight then I can understand the need for a pause, but if you consider the game a fun way to spend your time carry on having fun. It's really about perspective and how seriously you take the game.

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

I was told TW factions decided not to TW this weekend as a form of "moment of silence" in honor of Tam and people are upset because Hoorah bid.

Actually there was no getting together of faction leaders. There was a request made in wc and that is all. So what Is actually no surprise is that this post was made. Good job Templar

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

Not sure if you're referring to me, since you quoted me, or just people in general xD though I was just passing the message in case people are confused about the screenshot/link. I'm neutral to both sides.

People in general.

hiitsmeguys wrote: »

Not being insensitive but, the world doesn't stop when rl things happen. Having a moment of silence on a game is absurd, you're simply asking for drama and trolls, and carrying that moment of silence over to Saturday is just silly. Everyone knows that everyone will still be on the game doing whatever else they're doing. If you consider the game a fight then I can understand the need for a pause, but if you consider the game a fun way to spend your time carry on having fun. It's really about perspective and how seriously you take the game.

agreed b:surrender

So they decided to continue fighting....
Just because a request was made, doesn't mean that it has to be adhered to. For those who knew that individual (or wish to pay respects in some way) and were willing to oblige, that's good on them, but you cannot expect all parties to be willing to play along.

Yall so silly lol. Even though I didn't know her I did see her in arch alot and it's sad knowing that the actual Tam won't be on ever again because she "left" us, but not everyone feels the same way we are all different. If she loved tw isn't it more of an insult to her not to tw? I'm sure she would want everyone to have fun in honor of her. It's a game war not real life war. If I was gone I'd want everyone to pk because I love pk, but doubtful that would happen since everyone is basically pve nubs joking... I'm actually not. While the rest of you are basically insulting her by not doing something I'm told she loved to do, Hoorah will be celebrating her in game life. No I am not biased I hate hoorah actually, but I'm happy they chose to tw this week.

-TitaniaErzaa

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Really? I don't play the game much anymore but I knew Tam for 5 years and even though her and I went our own ways after I shut Regi down I still respected her. I'm offended that so many people are trying to play victim for people simply wanting to enjoy TW like they should in a game. Don't even pretend for a minute that you guys care about her if you didn't even know her.

Templar, you fall into the 99% of the people pointing fingers that didn't even know her personally. It's no surprise that you don't respect her, if you actually knew her, you'd know she never once missed a TW in 5 years even when she was sick. She absolutely loved TW and wouldn't miss one to save the world. If you guys think for one minute that you are honoring her by canceling TW then you're just proving that you really don't know her at all or care about her. Do you really honestly think that's what she wanted? Really? Yeah, I thought so.

If you actually wanted to honor her you'd be fighting to win TW for her, not trying to make excuses and rob people of the fun she felt so passionately about. You guys would be attacking us right now if you were stronger than us, but you aren't so you are spitting on her by trying to guilt trip people into canceling TW, her favorite aspect of the game. Hoorah didn't even attack Vindi this week out of respect. Hoorah is the only faction that actually respected Tam by enjoying TW for what it is, a game.

Do yourselves a favor and stop making an *** of yourselves for using her passing as a weapon and excuses to harass people, that's just pathetic and degrading. If you want to talk **** then talk ****, but don't drag her name through the mud when you're doing so. I truly feel bad for her that this has happened. RIP Tam.

Exactly this is my same viewpoint. Forgot rip. RIP Tam ^^<3
-TitaniaErzaa

Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »

People grieve however they grieve Dan, memorials are for the living, not the dead

When Nephy passed, as her "family", Pinnacle honored her memory by taking Stairway to Heaven that week, led by Tam

As Tam's "family", Vindicate requested a ceasefire for this weekends TW, a "moment of silence" so to speak

I've known Tam just as long as you, and while I agree with how she felt about TW, I also know of her history with Dball, and lets just say him being the one to break the "moment of silence" leaves a very bad taste in my mouth

Let's do Tam a solid Legends, let's beat Hoorah's *** tomorrow night, in her honor

Not that there was a formal agreement ever made, but vindi and hoorah not fighting each other is already a ceasefire, hoorah and leg are unrelated to Tam though so I'm not sure whats being broken, they're completely Seperate wars. A ceasefire with vindi was honored, but everyone else is fair game IMO, tam was never part of leg, so not sure how hoorah and leg TWing has anything to do with Tam and her family which was never in leg of hoorah

Technically there was a ceasefire I believe, just there was a misunderstanding that hoorah thought the ceasefire was more toward vindi/hoorah. At least that is the benefit of the doubt I give them.
Although its hard to dig that out when you get some stupid pple disregarding the way a faction would like to honor someones death. As it stands everyone has their own way of mourning and, only thing is consideration can go a long way when a tragedy out of 'pixel' happens. And if it was really a misunderstanding then it just makes hoorah look worse by trying to justify their actions. Hoorah was never a scapegoat, its always your own actions that make you pity yourself to think so.

Lets take a step back and look what it really going on here.


The leader of Vindicate posted on their own private forums (genious) about a cease-fire. He said they wanna get together to mourn for their loss instead during the time of TW. Whatever the reason for this time being picked is doesnt matter.

So apparently its a Vindicate issue, well Vindicate good news, you have no TW this weekend, we gave u guys the opportunity to do what u wished to do, for which u should be very thankful towards Dball, because not everyone agreed with this but he literally begged for understanding and felt this was necessary.

Now I have not heard any statement whatshowever from Skuttlebutt, or from Dball, about a cease-fire. So it seems to me like both these factions have decided to take a different approach than Vindicate, which is up to them, because they are their own faction, what the leader of Vindicate says doesnt mean anything to them.

Now Vindicate is mad, because we arranged a TW which has absolutely nothing to do with them, they are in no way related or involved in this TW, but they feel like they must call us out on this.

Now here's what u guys dont understand, Vindicate doesnt say what happens on the server, they can say what happens in their faction. Without ever asking Dball they planned for a cease-fire and Dball respected that. The fact there is a TW between Hoorah and Legendary has literally nothing at all to do with Vindicate...

So here is my suggestion Ur faction leader choose to post something that involved the whole server on ur own private forum. You guys choose to post something that doesnt involve you guys at all on the public forums, I would kindly suggest you take ur nonsense to ur own private forums, where u can **** n moan n QQ all u want.

Because from the way I look at it, you guys came here for one reason and one reason only, and that is to QQ at us, for allowing u a free night on saturday by not attacking you guys but attacking someone else instead, so you guys can pay ur respect.

Now I realise social interraction can be hard for some, but the right words to be posted here are:

Thank you Hoorah for not attacking us Saturday, we apoligize for not directly contacting you with this request or making a public statement, but we are happy you were nice enough to do it anyway.

And if you said that we wouldve told you that you are welcome, this weekend will be disappointing TW wise, but we'll be sure to make up for it the week after

See? No drama, just normal interraction, you get to do what u wanted, we dont get to do what we wanted, but out of respect for ur wish decided to yield and give u guys the week off.

Now if legendary wanted the week off aswell then perhaps Skuttlebutt shouldve spoken up, but he didnt, I dont see any post anywhere, nor do I hear him complain about the TW.

- qontroL


Sorry VenusArmani I hope u wont have to snip much here ^-^ My utter disgust with how people on this server choose to manipulate stuff that should never ever be manipulated to make other people look bad got me a little worked up. I always thought this server had quite a mature enviroment so seeing this come out from people I used to respect is quite shocking.

It's pretty disrespectful that expectations were made and demanded when the request made was too half assed to be made a public request to begin with, then creating a huge stink about it afterwards when it wasn't followed... How dare you?

You guys should be thanking Hoorah for meeting the request half way even though the same would not have been done for us in the same situation and there was no common decency to inform or forewarn anyone ahead of time when people already made plans for the week. Instead a half assed post gets made on a private forum during TW bidding.

Dball had members who wanted TW, some didn't, and he met everyone half way, so before you open your mouths again be grateful that it was even considered when a decision was made to satisfy all sides because I certainly don't have a reason to log in for another week now.

coolstorm wrote: »

There was a request to observe a moment of silence by not conducting any TW this weekend to honor Tam's passing.

Hoorah decided to not comply, for them fighting is a better way of honoring her. Difference of opinion, nothing else. Let's move on and stop pointing fingers.

This thread and most of the comments in it are disrespectful to the memory of Tam.

I ask that mod close this and all threads alike.

It's a game, not reality. If you want to honor her, do so where it actually matters - IRL.

Try to read what others are saying here instead. If you can't honor her passing IRL and want to do it in PWI, you'd do what she wanted everyone to do - to TW. You're just being ignorant.

coolstorm wrote: »

Your post is an ignorant rant, attacking what you don't understand. Move on...

Trying to see it as if there are two different views of this is ignorance to me, as well as one of the sides you're refering to.