Enable server change for Gold!

oxyma · October 2014

Because a lot of players chose the wrong server! (East instead of West, etc)

And i know what everyone will answer: "We can't because there may be 2 players with the same name etc". As we can't change our ing name! I really don't understand how it's still not possible in this game!

xtoraah · October 2014

That's your fault for choosing the wrong server lol

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide · October 2014

Seems someone needs to study the global again and figure out what east and west means

Jadsia - Lost City · October 2014

I can't ever see something like this happening outside a server merge. If people chose the wrong then they'll have to reroll on another server and start from scratch and hope someone from the other server is willing to trade for the gold you have on your original server or you'll have to just suck it up and keep playing on the server you originally chose.

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rieihdius · October 2014

oxyma wrote: »

Because a lot of players chose the wrong server! (East instead of West, etc)

And i know what everyone will answer: "We can't because there may be 2 players with the same name etc". As we can't change our ing name! I really don't understand how it's still not possible in this game!

Edit misunderstand your suggestion b:laugh

In case of character it is a more complex problem, but even so I think it would be possible if they succeed somehow to give a diferent ID, but since Im not an expert on PWI Internal character Databases I can not tell you if it is really possible since I don't know what does their database use as primary key.

Salari - Raging Tide · October 2014

If I remember right, the reason it can't or should I say wont be changed to another server is there is not one player database for all servers. So you can't switch the toons from one server to another as they may conflict with the new one. If these databases where sync'd then you would not have the problem of different servers with toons with the same names.

If the db's where sync'd switching toons to another server would be fairly easy. Db access is quite simple as it is meant to be.

Wazwaz - Sanctuary · October 2014

lol simply cuz pwe programmers and DBAs do not understand their own database schema so they don't know how to make it without it messing up the whole thing
b:chuckle

Jadsia - Lost City · October 2014

sontzu wrote: »

Probably one of the most common reasons people choose the "wrong" server in my experience is not know what pve and pvp means, since they are new to MMOs. I am one of those, and I chose HL based on the fact it had lowest ping.
Having invested a great deal of time, and (some) money in my various toons, I really don't feel like starting again on another server.
Being able to pay some gold and be moved to another server might be a good solution for some people, I'm not one of them; I have too many friends on HL and rpk is not the issue it used to be. There's no reason in principle why it couldn't be done; perhaps the only block would be the cost, since it would involve a GM having to copy a persons complete account data, transfer it to the new server, perhaps having to perform some reformatting for compatibility, and deleting the original account. Probably an hours work, and since they would want to make a profit also, that would dictate a price too high for most people who would want to move, at a guess.
Also, they seem to run the servers on a skeleton staff anyway, so probably wouldn't be able to spare the man-hours for it

A person should get some form of experience in what their server is about within the 1st 35 levels. There really isn't a whole lot invested at those levels other than some time unless someone frosted to 10x and dumped money into their game.

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

If I remember right, the reason it can't or should I say wont be changed to another server is there is not one player database for all servers. So you can't switch the toons from one server to another as they may conflict with the new one. If these databases where sync'd then you would not have the problem of different servers with toons with the same names.

If the db's where sync'd switching toons to another server would be fairly easy. Db access is quite simple as it is meant to be.

If we had shared DB between all servers then we might have cross server NW by this time maybe. Don't know.

Evryn - Morai · October 2014

Gold exchange between servers is unlikely to be activated. The economy of the various servers is different. 1 Gold on RT isn't 1 Gold on Morai for instance...

And Wazwaz - if you can design a database solution that can be updated in realtime (or maintain a failsafe transaction scheme that takes high latency into account while not affecting performance for the operations involved) then I suggest you apply for a job there. Please remember that the servers are distributed across the globe, and latencies between them can be as high as 2 seconds. May not seem much in absolute terms, but it can be hell to keep a database synced if you have thousands of operations being fired at it with various degrees of latency. It opens you up for double transactions - kinda like that +10 orb fiasco we had a few months back.

opkossy · October 2014

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

If I remember right, the reason it can't or should I say wont be changed to another server is there is not one player database for all servers. So you can't switch the toons from one server to another as they may conflict with the new one. If these databases where sync'd then you would not have the problem of different servers with toons with the same names.

If the db's where sync'd switching toons to another server would be fairly easy. Db access is quite simple as it is meant to be.

This is pretty accurate.

Even the EU servers, which were designed with a merge in mind, took some time to prepare for their merge. The East/West coast ones? The PvP/PvE ones? Yeah they weren't designed with that in mind and as old as they are, it would take a LONG time to even begin sorting through everything required to consider this sort of thing on them.

Though this belongs in the Suggestion Box and will be moved there.

heerohex#3018 · October 2014

We should be able to transfer servers!

This will not be happening anytime soon for two reasons.

A) The name cannot be changed because it interferes with the database

It has the potential for abuse by giving players an unfair advantage over others i.e PvE to PvP server and vice versa or an older server with better prices to a new server with more expensive prices. Suddenly that gear is more valuable

However, you can in fact save your characters look. Simply get a makeover scroll and save your character as a preset. Then when you make your new character you can use that preset to enjoy the same looks. Also with a bit of luck, your name hasn't been taken on the other server as they do not share a database with the exception of the European servers whose names do share a database. Also note that it is not expressly against the ToS to offer items and coins to other players on one server for items and coins on the other server. But you must exercise caution and do at your own risk. PWI cannot be held responsible if you lose your items to another player in a bad trade. Again this is NOT recommended by PWI (nor myself, to be honest) but it is also NOT against the terms of service. If you decide to do this, you do it your own risk.

Think the answer to this has been covered but just so as above.

And before people say its so simple its not just one database. TBH the whole system (databases XML Lists ETC) is such a mess this is one of the reasons i was hoping for an Engine upgrade. Something that also caused issues with the NW Server V Server. Server merges require a lot of work to get done because of this. Hopefully in time to come this will be possible. For now...

Thanks,

Enable server change for Gold!

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