APS to R9
amakunoo010
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I would like to know what you guys think of my plan into getting r9. If you have any suggestion that would be very much appreciated.
My plan is using this gear to farm until I achieve r9.
That is the gear I want to use to farm r9 because making the dagger into g16 with 2xinterval is really hard to get and that would cost too much money, so instead of putting a lot of coins to get 2xinterval I am just gonna save it for r9.
I am also a returning player, I only had 80mil coins on my toon, too bad i don't know how to merchant, the only thing I do to get money in this game now is doing bh and fsp only and also I will go sage assassin
My plan is using this gear to farm until I achieve r9.
That is the gear I want to use to farm r9 because making the dagger into g16 with 2xinterval is really hard to get and that would cost too much money, so instead of putting a lot of coins to get 2xinterval I am just gonna save it for r9.
I am also a returning player, I only had 80mil coins on my toon, too bad i don't know how to merchant, the only thing I do to get money in this game now is doing bh and fsp only and also I will go sage assassin
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I'd suggest G16 anyways. Even without interval, it's going to be better damage than most G15 stat combinations you can get... and G16 has a greater chance of at least one -int on it because you get three bonus stat add-ons compared to G15 only giving you two. Especially since you're saying you intend to go sage, so you won't have permaspark with your current setup regardless without use of chi skills.(Insert fancy image here)
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I'd suggest G16 anyways. Even without interval, it's going to be better damage than most G15 stat combinations you can get... and G16 has a greater chance of at least one -int on it because you get three bonus stat add-ons compared to G15 only giving you two. Especially since you're saying you intend to go sage, so you won't have permaspark with your current setup regardless without use of chi skills.
In your opinion how many recast will it take to get 1xinterval?
And thanks for the advice.b:thanks0 -
go g16 but being sage go for more atk lvl i got +40 +3 +2 lvl on my g16 dagger and sage chill whit jone's is crazy damg not dont aps on stuff lol use ur skills thats y u have them0
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go g16 but being sage go for more atk lvl i got +40 +3 +2 lvl on my g16 dagger and sage chill whit jone's is crazy damg not dont aps on stuff lol use ur skills thats y u have them
Well I am more of a dph than aps so that is why i'm going sage.
I have a question, in your opinion would it be much faster to farm r9 gears if I directly wear full t3 gears?
Since there will be a lot of farming in lunar and warsong for r9 mats being aps is good but do you think it is much more better to use full t3?0 -
Farming in instances where you need DPH is very, very luck based because you only can farm FSP for the most part for money where you require DPH and hoping for a good selling book on a random squad with 10 people is kinda meh.
APS is the king in farming still and using DPH there is only viral when you have crazy r9 gear, other than that aps is the way to go.
So yea like others mentioned, g16 daggers with 2x int on them is hard to roll yourself but compared to r9 its cheaper to just buy them.
On my server 2x int daggers go for around 250mil-350mil and thats a damn nice deal for them.
Also when you dont want to pvp people r9 has close to no purpose to you, it deals more damage yea but g16 deals enough as it is.
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Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »Farming in instances where you need DPH is very, very luck based because you only can farm FSP for the most part for money where you require DPH and hoping for a good selling book on a random squad with 10 people is kinda meh.
APS is the king in farming still and using DPH there is only viral when you have crazy r9 gear, other than that aps is the way to go.
So yea like others mentioned, g16 daggers with 2x int on them is hard to roll yourself but compared to r9 its cheaper to just buy them.
On my server 2x int daggers go for around 250mil-350mil and thats a damn nice deal for them.
Also when you dont want to pvp people r9 has close to no purpose to you, it deals more damage yea but g16 deals enough as it is.
cheers
I played in raging tide server and i saw a catshop selling 2xint with crit+1% around 550mil. If it was you, do you prefer buying it or go with standard aps gear with r9 daggers? W/c will be cheaper?0 -
amakunoo010 wrote: »In your opinion how many recast will it take to get 1xinterval?
And thanks for the advice.b:thanks
If I remember correctly, you need 6 rolls on average for -int on N3.__Sami__ - Archer - 105/103/102 - mypers.pw/1.8/#132088 - Active
HideYoHubby - Assassin - 105/101/101 - Inactive
WnbTank - Barbarian - 103/101/101 - Catshop0 -
HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »If I remember correctly, you need 6 rolls on average for -int on N3.
That is nice to hear but in the game i really really have terrible luck.b:cry0 -
what i'd advice u is:
-think about geting the ns3 dager for the purpose of faster farming. even if u are unlucky it will take u like 20-30 rerols to get -int once. Btw on my server u can get s3 dager for about 80-130 mil with 1x -0.05int. i whould not advice buying the 2x -int dager if u don't think of it as ur endgame dager(btw. u can aslo skip this part and go on with the current gear for jsut farming untill u get r9 dager(about 150% longer farming time with ur current dagerthan with the g16 dag))
the diffrence in dmg beetween ur current dager and the g16 one will be about 1:1,5 at same refine
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-get RA as soon as posible so u can get cards from fsp and passives which will help with ur def.
-continue farming untill u get: 1.ring>2.dager>3.belt>4.rest (the farming will take u a lot of time too)
hope that this helped ya
oh i am assuming that u already have the gear linked in pw calc0 -
Selbronne - Heavens Tear wrote: »what i'd advice u is:
-think about geting the ns3 dager for the purpose of faster farming. even if u are unlucky it will take u like 20-30 rerols to get -int once. Btw on my server u can get s3 dager for about 80-130 mil with 1x -0.05int. i whould not advice buying the 2x -int dager if u don't think of it as ur endgame dager(btw. u can aslo skip this part and go on with the current gear for jsut farming untill u get r9 dager(about 150% longer farming time with ur current dagerthan with the g16 dag))
the diffrence in dmg beetween ur current dager and the g16 one will be about 1:1,5 at same refine
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-get RA as soon as posible so u can get cards from fsp and passives which will help with ur def.
-continue farming untill u get: 1.ring>2.dager>3.belt>4.rest (the farming will take u a lot of time too)
hope that this helped ya
oh i am assuming that u already have the gear linked in pw calc
Thanks for your advice.
Nope I didn't have account yet, I am just using my cousin's account to get as many advice as I can and use it to bh and run fs for the meantime. I am planning to make a toon this 2015.b:laugh0 -
rerolling -int on a G16 weapon happens 1 in 7 rerolls. Since rerolling effectively costs about 10m per try, this means it is usually a little cheaper to buy the complete weapon if we purely look at the numbers. Of course if you like doing warsong anyways it would be silly to farm boring TT, sell for coins and then buy daggers and you better just farm your rerolls yourself. Just noting this because to my own huge surprise when i offered reroll/craft service on WC, people actually asked me to sell them reroll services. I felt a bit sorry for the customer and was glad i rolled him -int on third try
If you are planning to go R9, i would advise you to get a lunar G16 dagger. That way you can later sell it again and it doesnt really cost you anything.
Google warrenwolfie if you want to learn more about merchanting. I can assure you it will make it an enormous load easier and less borig to obtain R9 free to play than farming.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »rerolling -int on a G16 weapon happens 1 in 7 rerolls. Since rerolling effectively costs about 10m per try, this means it is usually a little cheaper to buy the complete weapon if we purely look at the numbers. Of course if you like doing warsong anyways it would be silly to farm boring TT, sell for coins and then buy daggers and you better just farm your rerolls yourself. Just noting this because to my own huge surprise when i offered reroll/craft service on WC, people actually asked me to sell them reroll services. I felt a bit sorry for the customer and was glad i rolled him -int on third try
If you are planning to go R9, i would advise you to get a lunar G16 dagger. That way you can later sell it again and it doesnt really cost you anything.
Google warrenwolfie if you want to learn more about merchanting. I can assure you it will make it an enormous load easier and less borig to obtain R9 free to play than farming.
Thanks for your wonderful advice and for learning how to merchant i will try and read it later.
If ever I directly buy g16 with 1x-int with +10 refine,how much is the average price? (in raging tide server no one sells gold and the price of highest gold buyer is 3,999,900 atm)b:cry0 -
I havent been on much lately, but 1 month ago on archo it was like this:
Dagger unrefined, no -int: 90-100m
Dagger -int: 130-200m depending on other stats majority in lower end of range.
Dagger +10 -int: not too sure, i'd guess 300-500m or so prices vary quite a lot with the less often sold items and stats being varyable.
Archo gold and thus refines seems bit lower than on your server, so the +10 i guess is worth more on yours. Buying items like that is mostly a matter of being online a lot and being patient for the right offer. Then it can be significantly cheaper than starting from scratch.
I dont see refined daggers trade a lot though and i never bought/sold any myself. My price estimate thus is more of a "fist/claw +some extra" kind of estimate. For some reason everyone seems to make their G16 daggers TT, saving themselves some 20m in at the start but preventing them from selling a 400m item later when they want to swich to R9.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
amakunoo010 wrote: »Well I am more of a dph than aps so that is why i'm going sage.
I have a question, in your opinion would it be much faster to farm r9 gears if I directly wear full t3 gears?
Since there will be a lot of farming in lunar and warsong for r9 mats being aps is good but do you think it is much more better to use full t3?
i would say farm ur g16 u can use the badges to make other g16 gear to sell is a good way to fram r9 at the same time ur looking for ur molds i my self fram r9 for my acher useing my sin with g16 only toke me about 4 monthsDeadalus - Harshlands wrote: »Farming in instances where you need DPH is very, very luck based because you only can farm FSP for the most part for money where you require DPH and hoping for a good selling book on a random squad with 10 people is kinda meh.
APS is the king in farming still and using DPH there is only viral when you have crazy r9 gear, other than that aps is the way to go.
So yea like others mentioned, g16 daggers with 2x int on them is hard to roll yourself but compared to r9 its cheaper to just buy them.
On my server 2x int daggers go for around 250mil-350mil and thats a damn nice deal for them.
Also when you dont want to pvp people r9 has close to no purpose to you, it deals more damage yea but g16 deals enough as it is.
cheers
yes but.. with the new skills sins have for prim the damg is just unrealamakunoo010 wrote: »That is nice to hear but in the game i really really have terrible luck.b:cry
its all ramdon depends on how many ppl have reroll weps ans so forth my self ive made x2 int 2 time witn only about 4 rerolls and got x1int on frist and 2nd lots of times0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »I havent been on much lately, but 1 month ago on archo it was like this:
Dagger unrefined, no -int: 90-100m
Dagger -int: 130-200m depending on other stats majority in lower end of range.
Dagger +10 -int: not too sure, i'd guess 300-500m or so prices vary quite a lot with the less often sold items and stats being varyable.
Archo gold and thus refines seems bit lower than on your server, so the +10 i guess is worth more on yours. Buying items like that is mostly a matter of being online a lot and being patient for the right offer. Then it can be significantly cheaper than starting from scratch.
I dont see refined daggers trade a lot though and i never bought/sold any myself. My price estimate thus is more of a "fist/claw +some extra" kind of estimate. For some reason everyone seems to make their G16 daggers TT, saving themselves some 20m in at the start but preventing them from selling a 400m item later when they want to swich to R9.
I already had the TT90 dags,legs, and head. So I guess, you advice me to sell those and make lunar ones am I right?i would say farm ur g16 u can use the badges to make other g16 gear to sell is a good way to fram r9 at the same time ur looking for ur molds i my self fram r9 for my acher useing my sin with g16 only toke me about 4 months
yes but.. with the new skills sins have for prim the damg is just unreal
its all ramdon depends on how many ppl have reroll weps ans so forth my self ive made x2 int 2 time witn only about 4 rerolls and got x1int on frist and 2nd lots of times
4 months, that was fastb:shocked
yeah that is why dph sin is more powerful now xD
well I hope I will get -int in 1 to 10 triesb:surrender0 -
amakunoo010 wrote: »So I guess, you advice me to sell those and make lunar ones am I right?
yep you are right Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »yep you are right
Okay then I will follow your advice sir and anyway the merchanting guide you told me is nice but I guess it doesnt matter to me if I will just become a heavy farmer since I am a player who enjoy the game and take time to play.b:thanks
One more thing I would like you to know sir is I also ask my factionmates about this and 50% of them agree what you advice to me and 50% said "go with the standard gear(they mean barrier thorn:nirvana dagger) and refine them to +10 because going g16 will cost you a lot of coins".
From what the other said that didnt agree to your advice I guess that will take time but it doesnt matter to me since I am not FCC addict.
From your opinion what do you think on what the other says?b:thanks0 -
amakunoo010 wrote: »Okay then I will follow your advice sir and anyway the merchanting guide you told me is nice but I guess it doesnt matter to me if I will just become a heavy farmer since I am a player who enjoy the game and take time to play.b:thanks
One more thing I would like you to know sir is I also ask my factionmates about this and 50% of them agree what you advice to me and 50% said "go with the standard gear(they mean barrier thorn:nirvana dagger) and refine them to +10 because going g16 will cost you a lot of coins".
From what the other said that didnt agree to your advice I guess that will take time but it doesnt matter to me since I am not FCC addict.
From your opinion what do you think on what the other says?b:thanks
Anyone that advised you to actually stick with g13 and refine them to +10? Unfriend them. That is the worst advice anyone could give at this stage in the game.
G16+3 out damage g13+10, roughly.0 -
Refining a non-G16 weapon to +10 is a waste of money. Even refining one with bad stats is a waste of money.
If you refine a G16 weapon to +10, the value of the item will be slightly lower than the total of the cost to make it. I think it isnt even a good idea to start refining a G16 weapon with bad stats. Everything you invest on a sub-par weapon is lost in the end. A +10 dagger with -int, 130max, 130max will sell pretty well and you can probably get the cost of making it. If the 130max are magic stats, you more likely get half the cost of making it.
If you refine a lower grade weapon to +10 its value will be a lot lower than the cost to make it.
Since the value of these items is a lot lower than the cost to make one, it could however be interesting to buy 1 of these for a nice price. Some people made them a long time ago and they are still around, sometimes available for a bargain price for temporary use.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
yep in pve g13's suck even way back when. R8 can out dd it any day with a int tome. I roll'd my g16's for double -int on the 6-7th try real lucky. It took over 100 to get double -int on my barb's g15 fists.
If you want specific add's shop around for them you can literally roll till the end of time and never get what you want. A lot of people will give odd's of rolling x add's but remember that 1 in x odd's is just a chance not a guarantee.
WannaBM is right, you can find bargains. I picked up a g15 niv wrist for 200m. It was +11 with 2 josd. Seeing my barb is r8r and will never be r9 that item was a steal for me. It is far less in price than what it would cost to +10 his current wrists.Marine - Marshall - Raging Tides - Retired
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Yes, because people really need 900+ dex or 1000+ magic just for the lulz0 -
Now that I gathered many advice from you guysb:thanks, now I know what to do.b:victory0
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