Seeker Genie Builds

I got 2 main genie here

my first one is for pve and also in some pvp situation where having chi or a damage immunity is better then faith
Holy path, absolute domain, cloud eruption, tangling mire, heart of steel and fortify.
This is pretty much a all around genie that helps for anything.

my second genie is only for pvp an i use it for bridge battle in nw, TW a lot and 1v1 vs cleric, psy, sin, bm and mystic.
Its skill are Faith, holy path, heart of steel, tangling mire, fortify, extreme poison

mix of pve/TW in 1 genie x,x

holy path, tangling mire, fortify, frenzy, cloud eruption, expel, extreme poison

belnor wrote: »

So reading the description for "Frenzy" it lowers the defense and resistances. Can this be treated like "Sacrificial Slash" where the debuff can be transferred with QPQ?

Frenzy doesn't work like sac slash, because it's one icon for the attack boost and defense reduction and acts as a buff unlike sac slash which is one attack level buff and one defense level debuff.

belnor wrote: »

Wow that's a pretty good genie. Still working on getting something better than the ones I've got.

I did try out "Heart of Steel" with Sunday's NW. Had some luck with it. Well except for one map where I had a cleric and psychic duo that was a little more than I could handle.

So reading the description for "Frenzy" it lowers the defense and resistances. Can this be treated like "Sacrificial Slash" where the debuff can be transferred with QPQ?

For QPQ and this is when you actually have a good few seconds to pull it off, i use it with crimson soul powder, fortify and then the other seeker goodies.

Nudimmud - Lost City wrote: »

If you actually have enough time to stack all those then QPQ them before dying in pk then your opponents are doing something wrong.

I actually stopped using crimson soul powders on Lost City because people would see me doing it and immediately drop me before I could QPQ it. These days I have just enough time to use sacrificial slash and QPQ it before people notice and hit me, but that's just my experience.

It's not based on time as much as it's based on speed. You're also much easier to notice and be disposed of if you're just tossing debuffs randomly (and thus probably at the wrong times too) than if you use them during an opening. If you have the primal QPQ and Sac slash then speed should be no issue to you (though I'd understand if you didn't aswell, for cancelling purposes).

Since you said that you can use Sac and QPQ before being noticed, then you should also be able to use Sac Crimson QPQ without issues (and fortify aswell, with the bonus of having EP added too if you want). It depends on your clicking order (or hotkeying, but I click mainly, as that's my most used style) but one thing you should note is you can press sac slash then crimson and then qpq without any issues timing wise (crimson will activate right as sac slash finishes and then qpq will pop aswell, so the time is basically the same), not to mention you can easily toss genie debuffs in while channelling those seeing as those can be used during other things no problem (and only come with a short delay between them if you use multiple ones).

I don't know if I can remember my genies as they exactly were, as I haven't logged on in a while. Off the top of my head it was something like:

A 89/100 longevity used for 1v1 PvP purposes (though I used it for more than that but it was the best for 1v1's):
Dex built as far as I remember and
Holy Path
Absolute Domain
Badge of Courage
Extreme poison
Remove Paralysis
Will Surge
And level 1 Fortify

Was mainly those times when my timing was at its peak so having a genie that could handle stuns etc was the most fitting for me.

Holy Path is self explanatory;

Absolute domain was pretty handy for resisting damage in critical situations back then (as this genie is quite old);

Badge of Courage would be used to break out of stuns, mostly when breaking a stunlock was crucial or when being stunned would be too dangerous due to certain incoming combos;

Extreme Poison is pretty self explanatory too;

Remove Paralysis is a skill I got later on due to fights with sins that had Tidal as their daily source of nourishment along with tackling slash;

Will Surge is something I got mostly to practice and because I didn't have it, though it was handy when it came to getting hit by nova/thicket/gale force and other freeze-seals as well as preventing certain foes from turning the fight around by tossing that one seal before they drop;

Fortify was used for stun resisting really often, I'd say it was my most used skill infact. I would also use it for the already known fortify QPQ combo along with EP for extra damage. Though more often it would be used to do both things simultaneously.

Next up~

A 87/100 infliction made with the thought of group PvP rather than 1v1 PvP, which also became my PvE genie afterwards:
This one was vit/mag built with a hint of str/dex as far as I remember and
Holy Path
Faith
Level 1 Fortify
Extreme Poison
Tangling Mire
Heart of Steel
as for last spot, I was unsure of what to put there, so I kept changing it between many things but for PvE I'd go with Earthquake there for soloing FSP and some other bosses.

Holy Path, Fortify and Extreme poison are the same as before;

Faith is something I got in hopes of trying something new and possibly making timing easier for me in group fights since 10 people tossing stuns around wasn't something I could always resist with the old genie. It was mostly my replacement for Absolute Domain, with the reason that relying on AD wasn't a good idea and that there are cases when purifying yourself would save you rather than resisting incoming damage;

Tangling Mire had the purpose of making those tanky arcanes easier to drop when used along with sac slash and the rest. Also had some purpose for increasing aoe damage;

Heart of Steel had a few uses (named Archers, Clerics and fellow Seekers) but to sum it up it was used to survive those classes without having to use more important resources or in a critical situation where other resources were not available. For an example let's say you fortify combo and qpq it to an enemy seeker, thus resulting in them sending that back to you. You would then Heart of Steel to negate all coming damage (because Fortify combo should be followed by metal attacks or else they're doing something wrong). Also handy for resisting a combo that was qpq'd to you while you sac slash and/or send it back;

Can't remember what I used for the last besides PvEarthquake (which actually worked quite well in PvP sometimes too). But it's pretty self explanatory as I already said above, though one thing to note is that it won't be a 100% interrupt if you have any stance on at the time.

I think that pretty much sums it up.
I would post my reaaaaally old PvE genie aswell, but I can't remember that one at all.

On Lost City, as soon as I start to ramp up any part of a QPQ combo I begin to get hit, because people know what is coming. If I stack further debuffs it makes me get hit so hard that I die during the tiny gap. Further, because I start to get hit I am forced to save my pvp pot for something useful. The biggest issue isn't with needing to hit harder, its being able to survive once I hit harder.

Believe me, I have everything lined up and timed down to 1/10 of a second. It isn't a matter of lining my stuff up better or preparation. Its more become a matter of cost v. effect. If I use those massive QPQ combos in pvp at the right time I can drop my target, so long as I don't die during. The issue is that I drop shortly after, because there is nothing left for me to defend against the onslaught with.

Its just how it is here in end-game pvp right now. People hate on seekers in pvp fast. b:cry

Nudimmud - Lost City wrote: »

On Lost City, as soon as I start to ramp up any part of a QPQ combo I begin to get hit, because people know what is coming. If I stack further debuffs it makes me get hit so hard that I die during the tiny gap. Further, because I start to get hit I am forced to save my pvp pot for something useful. The biggest issue isn't with needing to hit harder, its being able to survive once I hit harder.

Believe me, I have everything lined up and timed down to 1/10 of a second. It isn't a matter of lining my stuff up better or preparation. Its more become a matter of cost v. effect. If I use those massive QPQ combos in pvp at the right time I can drop my target, so long as I don't die during. The issue is that I drop shortly after, because there is nothing left for me to defend against the onslaught with.

Its just how it is here in end-game pvp right now. People hate on seekers in pvp fast. b:cry

maybe their just more keen on seeker potential b:avoid i guess every server has their priority list b:chuckle