About Primal World Dailies
SaintDominic - Sanctuary
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I'm currently doing the lvl 50 daily quest with the owls, and I can't even survive from the mobs. Just letting you know that I recently came back after being gone for about a year. Am I doing something wrong?
Is it me or the mobs at Primal World hit pretty hard? I was trying to do my daily quest for lvl 50, and I just died instantly. b:shocked
Is it me or the mobs at Primal World hit pretty hard? I was trying to do my daily quest for lvl 50, and I just died instantly. b:shocked
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SaintDominic - Sanctuary wrote: »Is it me or the mobs at Primal World hit pretty hard? I was trying to do my daily quest for lvl 50, and I just died instantly. b:shocked
They generally hit harder than most other mobs in-game, yes.I host an Ecatomb mirror here: ecatomb.gdevtalk.net
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bluestuffzzz wrote: »They generally hit harder than most other mobs in-game, yes.
So I'm screwed basically. b:sad0 -
SaintDominic - Sanctuary wrote: »I'm currently doing the lvl 50 daily quest with the owls, and I can't even survive from the mobs. Just letting you know that I recently came back after being gone for about a year. Am I doing something wrong?
Is it me or the mobs at Primal World hit pretty hard? I was trying to do my daily quest for lvl 50, and I just died instantly. b:shocked
I know most of my AAs get creamed easily there. You need decent level and armors to do well.0 -
firegoddess1880 wrote: »I know most of my AAs get creamed easily there. You need decent level and armors to do well.
I guess I picked a wrong time to come back, which was about a year, because according to many people my gear is very outdated. b:surrender0 -
Be smart. Land only when someone else has agro. Kill one by one. Not really that hard.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Its not just you. I have a decently geared sin with low refines and I almost always die. The advice I can give is to wait until someone else comes through. They usually draw aggro from all and aoe them all. Then you run to the boxes and run out as quick as possible after you get the popup...I dont even close it until I'm away a distance. Run towards the northern part of the fenced in area...they don't spawn there.
I have zeal so I can pull one at a time, but if I don't stun them they can still get me even with a charm. If all else fail ask guild for help or even a random that is in the area as most people have been cool about helping and buffing me before sending me on my merry little way. Good luck out there.0 -
I have a lvl 101 r9 +6/7 ea and these things hurt me. They do 1k to me. Sometimes I can stand them but most of the time I have to attack the ones by themselves or use earthflame on my genie.lvl 101 ea from Lost City.
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As the previous posters say - wait till camp cleared by someone else for first part, then team up with someone or be patient and pull one by one if no-one around. But this IS one of the hardest NW dailies around so don't be discouraged. Whoever dreamt this one up for level 50's has a strange sense of humour.0
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Its not exactly for lvl50's, since you have to be reawakened to enter Primal. They probably assumed people had decent 100 gear and knew how to pull and fight a single mob by the time they hit 100 and reawakened to lvl50.zenmonkeyzzz wrote: »Whoever dreamt this one up for level 50's has a strange sense of humour.0 -
Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »Its not exactly for lvl50's, since you have to be reawakened to enter Primal. They probably assumed people had decent 100 gear and knew how to pull and fight a single mob by the time they hit 100 and reawakened to lvl50.
As a veno I'd hope I'm better at pulling than any other class. Problem is I didn't get my Herc back till level 64. The mobs are basically archers - Arcane classes toughest challenge. They hit for around 2000-2200 on a level 50 (reborn) in moderately refined g16 ( i.e. not awful gear). With only 3700 HP at that level unless you one or 2-hit them you're in trouble.
Even if you manage to pull and kill one by one, if you're trying to clear the camp to get to the boxes, chances are the mobs will be respawning again before you do it.
My point was, compared to other daily quests in NW ( or even OHT or Morai ) this one is really tricky until you are higher level.0 -
Around level 50 most people should already have most of their gears on if they set their stat points properly. Level 100 capes, helms and ornies should give enough stat points for that (Hint: Most classes profit from statting so that they get armors on and then with couple more points the weapon on, too. No statting to possible Vit. before all gears are on.)
And methods for how to do it on various classes:
Cleric: Stack of IH+Plume Shell, Tempest -> Razor Feathers -> Siren's Kiss -> Razor Feathers -> Quests done or cleric dead(and cleric needs a better weapon or kill single mob at a time).
Mystic: Lure mobs one at a time with summons.
Psychic: Psy Will -> couple nukes -> Earth Vector -> more nukes.
Veno: Lure with some pet/Tame pet or ParaNova->Noxious Gas -> dead mobs if enough strong veno.
Wizzie: Mountain's Seize -> Hailstorm -> BT or BIDS(with AD/Expel/IG).
Archer: Blessing of the Condor -> BoA -> Expel when mobs close
Sin: if strong enough, Spark -> SS -> ER, otherwise Knife Throw -> APS.
Seeker: AoE-spam or vortex. Yush, vortex ain't that nooby here.
BM: Phys. marrow -> Stun -> HF -> AOE-spam
Barb: Too many ways to do it easily.
That's how Kitty used to do it, at least o,o Kitty had T3+6 weapons on most her chars that time, T2's with GoF/SS on melees.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Keisari - Raging Tide wrote: »
Mystic: Lure mobs one at a time with summons.
Use Salvation buff > Falling Petals > Gale Force > Summon both heal plants > Primal Swirling Mist > Gale force again if not already all dead.
Heal self when needed.
For me thats how i always solo on mystic without waiting for someone to agro the mobs first, its faster that way. Because sometimes it takes awhile for the people to come agro them and has to be ones thats able to fully agro them too. That being said, when people that can hold agro, they will aoe kill them all too, then you would have to wait around for it to spawn (and if you are unlucky you would have few others standing around waiting to pull those mobs one by one too)
Another way for mystic/veno to do it is, fly in air, send pet down to kill them while u heal pet. But this need to be done carefully because if your range is not right, the mobs can hit you even while you are in air.0 -
I'm assuming that you're doing this on your cleric, based on your avatar. It would help to know your gear, refines, and shards honestly.
If you are higher geared, and can survive a few blasts...
Stack IH > Plume Shell + MP Herb + Wings of Protection + Guardian's Light if need be....Tempest.
If you're not able to one shot them, I recommend zeal pulling, and take them one by one.
Don't be afraid to use other genie skills to help. I often Absolute Domain/Expel in the middle of my tempest to keep them from interrupting me, while granting me immunity...and them death.
Their normal attack doesn't hurt bad. It's the slash attack they do that hits me for around 900.
NOTE: I am not R9rr. I am Full G16, with my highest refines being +7. So that is a very reasonable and obtainable option if you don't have appropriate gears yet, and want to still be able to deal with this quest."Male Player using female toon. Please don't flirt with me."
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SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm assuming that you're doing this on your cleric, based on your avatar. It would help to know your gear, refines, and shards honestly.
If you are higher geared, and can survive a few blasts...
Stack IH > Plume Shell + MP Herb + Wings of Protection + Guardian's Light if need be....Tempest.
If you're not able to one shot them, I recommend zeal pulling, and take them one by one.
Don't be afraid to use other genie skills to help. I often Absolute Domain/Expel in the middle of my tempest to keep them from interrupting me, while granting me immunity...and them death.
Their normal attack doesn't hurt bad. It's the slash attack they do that hits me for around 900.
NOTE: I am not R9rr. I am Full G16, with my highest refines being +7. So that is a very reasonable and obtainable option if you don't have appropriate gears yet, and want to still be able to deal with this quest.
I'm currently wearing TT90 chest, legs, and boots with the archangel sleeves and TT99 glaive. For my attack moves I used a combination of stacked IH>plume shell>cyclone>plume shot and stack IH when need to be. I totally agree that the slash part is what gets me. Ugh! I'm not big on refines and shards, since I'm poor lol. I don't utilize my genie to its full potential either, but I will definitely take your advice on the absolute domain/expel genie skill. I mainly use my genie for pulling and holy path. b:surrender0 -
SaintDominic - Sanctuary wrote: »I'm currently wearing TT90 chest, legs, and boots with the archangel sleeves and TT99 glaive. For my attack moves I used a combination of stacked IH>plume shell>cyclone>plume shot and stack IH when need to be. I totally agree that the slash part is what gets me. Ugh! I'm not big on refines and shards, since I'm poor lol. I don't utilize my genie to its full potential either, but I will definitely take your advice on the absolute domain/expel genie skill. I mainly use my genie for pulling and holy path. b:surrender
Why...TT99 weapon?b:shocked
Now that it's easy to get Raps for T2 in a couple NWs, there's no single reason to have TT99-weapon(except if you bought that weapon and instantly equipped it...a very bad choice if you don't already have blacksmith level 6 to reforge it).b:surrender
Since you're wearing mostly TT90-gears, try to get some decent slightly-refined physical ornaments to help your survivability.b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Keisari - Raging Tide wrote: »Why...TT99 weapon?b:shocked
Now that it's easy to get Raps for T2 in a couple NWs, there's no single reason to have TT99-weapon(except if you bought that weapon and instantly equipped it...a very bad choice if you don't already have blacksmith level 6 to reforge it).b:surrender
Since you're wearing mostly TT90-gears, try to get some decent slightly-refined physical ornaments to help your survivability.b:cute
What can I say? I've been gone for more than a year. I came back to this big change and realizing that I'm so behind gear-wise lol!0 -
Keisari - Raging Tide wrote: »Around level 50 most people should already have most of their gears on if they set their stat points properly. Level 100 capes, helms and ornies should give enough stat points for that (Hint: Most classes profit from statting so that they get armors on and then with couple more points the weapon on, too. No statting to possible Vit. before all gears are on.)
And methods for how to do it on various classes:
Cleric: Stack of IH+Plume Shell, Tempest -> Razor Feathers -> Siren's Kiss -> Razor Feathers -> Quests done or cleric dead(and cleric needs a better weapon or kill single mob at a time).
Mystic: Lure mobs one at a time with summons.
Psychic: Psy Will -> couple nukes -> Earth Vector -> more nukes.
Veno: Lure with some pet/Tame pet or ParaNova->Noxious Gas -> dead mobs if enough strong veno.
Wizzie: Mountain's Seize -> Hailstorm -> BT or BIDS(with AD/Expel/IG).
Archer: Blessing of the Condor -> BoA -> Expel when mobs close
Sin: if strong enough, Spark -> SS -> ER, otherwise Knife Throw -> APS.
Seeker: AoE-spam or vortex. Yush, vortex ain't that nooby here.
BM: Phys. marrow -> Stun -> HF -> AOE-spam
Barb: Too many ways to do it easily.
That's how Kitty used to do it, at least o,o Kitty had T3+6 weapons on most her chars that time, T2's with GoF/SS on melees.
Jad just sends her nix in and aggros all the mobs and watches it 1 shoot them all to death (with natural synergy) while jad gets the quest pop up. Jad's nix has herc skills so it tanks the entire group of mobs fine with a heal or 2I **** bigger than you...
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SaintDominic - Sanctuary wrote: »I'm currently wearing TT90 chest, legs, and boots with the archangel sleeves and TT99 glaive. For my attack moves I used a combination of stacked IH>plume shell>cyclone>plume shot and stack IH when need to be. I totally agree that the slash part is what gets me. Ugh! I'm not big on refines and shards, since I'm poor lol. I don't utilize my genie to its full potential either, but I will definitely take your advice on the absolute domain/expel genie skill. I mainly use my genie for pulling and holy path. b:surrender
Hmmm. I do agree with upgrading your gear as soon as possible. If you're unable to upgrade it to G15 at least, then you may want to try to get a Morai weapon to switch to for attacking. It shouldn't replace your TT99 weapon entirely, as the TT99 weapon will still have superior heals, but it will work as an improvement in attacking due to its slaying levels. (Attack levels that only work against mobs.) It may serve you well in the meantime until you can farm the reps to forge your gear to the G15 level. I recommend that be one of your first priorities. (Getting your gear to Nirvana G15).
That said, since your gear is a bit outdated, I'm going to recommend that if during a pull, things get too rough, you toss in a sleep or seal to give yourself time to stabalize , as well as stacking your defensive skills together for maximum effect.
Also, don't be afraid to stack a bit of crab meat jioza with your final IH stack too.
Oh, and Apoth. Dew of Star Protection, and other defensive apoths should offer you some protection sgainst their lethal attacks.
If you're a channeling cleric, (Using elemental channeling ornaments, or for whatever reason are not using physical defense ornaments), they're going to hit you pretty hard, so if you are, then I recommend having physical defense gear to switch to for the occasion.
Hopefully that advice helps. I'll add more if it comes to me."Male Player using female toon. Please don't flirt with me."
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VileBlack - Archosaur wrote: »Its not just you. I have a decently geared sin with low refines and I almost always die. The advice I can give is to wait until someone else comes through. They usually draw aggro from all and aoe them all. Then you run to the boxes and run out as quick as possible after you get the popup...I dont even close it until I'm away a distance. Run towards the northern part of the fenced in area...they don't spawn there.
By "decent"... I assume you mean APS gear which is as squishie as it has always been; I'd recommend getting a set of full T3 gear which is super easy to obtain as a sin. You can always switch gears much like a BM an use skills
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Zaccy - Raging Tide wrote: »By "decent"... I assume you mean APS gear which is as squishie as it has always been; I'd recommend getting a set of full T3 gear which is super easy to obtain as a sin. You can always switch gears much like a BM an use skills
Back when my archer used sins aps gear and TT90 gold chest I crafted for lols, those things did kill me once I believe. I think I used wingspan, all the mobs got on range, did that damn hit and charm jumped my poor archer. And that archer had 10k+ hp base at the time <.<. All in all, those things hurt bad if you arent careful.__Sami__ - Archer - 105/103/102 - mypers.pw/1.8/#132088 - Active
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yup they hit hard my healer is full g16 and he gets kill fast but i believe thats cause i still havent added shards on his gears or refinement cost too much so i hide on the boat and atk from there lol
my sin was having the same problem and going stealth don't save you they can still see and kill you lol0 -
i'd just wait a few minutes for someone to come along and try to party with them if you're really struggling. Im sure you wont be waiting long!--Retired--
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To be honest I do not understand what you guys are doing wrong.
I have four toons reborn - barbarian, assassin, cleric and mystic. I haven't had issues with this quest on any of them unless Im half-afk / not really caring what's happening.
On cleric I drop down and plume shell to get the pop up, then fly back up. I move further and tempest from there without any interruptions or stress. I can also just plume shell, drop down, demon spirits gift and siren's kiss them.
On assassin I drop down, spark>ss>ER
On mystic... salvation buff on, drop down, let cragglord AOE 1 shot them.Leader of Cyanure on Valonsurma and a proud member of Vertu
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Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »To be honest I do not understand what you guys are doing wrong.
I have four toons reborn - barbarian, assassin, cleric and mystic. I haven't had issues with this quest on any of them unless Im half-afk / not really caring what's happening.
But your toons are all 100+ rb2 b:chuckle
The original poster was complaining about how hard this is an opening introduction daily in New World at level 50 and presumably worrying about how hard things would be in this world.
Although a reborn level 50+ isn't really a true level 50 ( having better gear and level 10 or better skills for example ), nor are they level 100+. Just try duelling a non-reborn level 100 with similar gear. I agree with the comments made by other posters on how this can be done. No-one is suggesting this quest is impossible just a real test and seriously I bet no-one goes to those lengths with say level 95+ quests in Morai.0 -
This is a good warning for my less geared charactes b:surrender
i honestly didnt know how hard these guys would hit since my main is a seeker
looks like it hurts alot huh :S[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Ahira - Lost City wrote: »i'd just wait a few minutes for someone to come along and try to party with them if you're really struggling. Im sure you wont be waiting long!
I wouldn't mind helping others like that with a party but they'd have to request it fast since it takes me 10 seconds or less to do the quest once I attack the mobs.I **** bigger than you...
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Zaccy - Raging Tide wrote: »By "decent"... I assume you mean APS gear which is as squishie as it has always been; I'd recommend getting a set of full T3 gear which is super easy to obtain as a sin. You can always switch gears much like a BM an use skills
b:laugh That is aweful advice in my opinion T3 gear for sin is a worthless trash and waste of time.
You better off getting either full R9r3 or getting R8r yet R8r is not even needed in PVE and is too expensive.
With the time you can spend farming T3 you can farm enough money to buy half of full R9r3 armor.
APS >T3
R9r3>APS
I had problems too with my aps sin when I first did reborn I was killed easy by their special attack.
After you reborn twice and get full A cards those mobs become a joke and can barely damage me in aps gear.
What I suggest you is to lure them with a genie and kill them 1 by one till the spot you have to stand on is clear or wait for someone else to kill all mobs.
Then lure them 1 by 1 to do it easily do not AOE them if you do not have enough DPH.
For aps sin just triple spark then AD and you can kill group easy.Do you want PWI to fix the economy before is to late?
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zenmonkeyzzz wrote: »But your toons are all 100+ rb2 b:chuckle
The original poster was complaining about how hard this is an opening introduction daily in New World at level 50 and presumably worrying about how hard things would be in this world.
Although a reborn level 50+ isn't really a true level 50 ( having better gear and level 10 or better skills for example ), nor are they level 100+. Just try duelling a non-reborn level 100 with similar gear. I agree with the comments made by other posters on how this can be done. No-one is suggesting this quest is impossible just a real test and seriously I bet no-one goes to those lengths with say level 95+ quests in Morai.
b:laugh You talk as if all my toons were magically level 100 rb2 right away, cute.
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