Rebirth at 105 Or 101?

mechabeastmc666 · October 2014

Hai, i was wondering if there was a difference, i've asked a few players ingame, but couldn't get a difinitive answer, some said this, and some said that. what i want to know is, Does rebirthing at lvl 105 give you more Points then if you did at 100, or 101? The stat points if you rebirth at 100 is 20 Right? And at 101, its 25? I talked to a sin who said they Rebirthed at 105, and it was 75 stat points. and alot of ppl said that it all evens out though the end though the edit history book demon? What is all of that about? and if possible i'd like to keep thread on topic, and with no insults and no smart *** comments like "search forum" If that is what you have i'd rather you not post at all. Just information.

WannaBM - Archosaur · October 2014

In the end you will get the same amount of points no matter what order you level your incarnations. Rebirthing halfway a level does not matter either, the exp you have is saved.

The earlier you rebirth, the sooner you get access to FSP, UCH, mirage/astral sky, primal skills etc. This is clearly the most important factor of all. I would go for second rebirth as soon as i feel fit to level my toon from 1-100 again. Even if then you would be too weak to do FSP, at least you have daylies to start working on your primal skills and mirage levels.

The higher level you are, the less exp you gain. So if you rebirth and then stay level 100 while working on your old incarnations, you maximize your exp gain. Most likely most of your exp comes from PV, then you could level to 102 without losing much though.

102 and above, your old incarnations give more stat points per xp then your current level. Looking at this aspect, it is best to first go 100-100-100 -> 102-102-102 -> 105-105-102 -> 105-105-105. Since you get benefits from having your max level as high as possible, i would advise to go 105-102-102 in between rather than leveling the 2 old incarnations equally.

I believe if you level your current level to 105 before your incarnations are 105, you get no more exp to level them. Dunno if that was true or if it is fixed. It doesnt really matter because there are so many reasons not to level your current level first.

Seeker_King - Harshlands · October 2014

I suggest you reborn at lvl 101 because you will do your primal world daily faster and you'll be able to lvl up that lvl 101 to 105 later by using the ancient tome and at the end, you will have the same ammount of stats.
when you reborn at lvl 101, you get 25 extra stats, and at lvl 105 you get 75 extra stats, and by leveling your ancient tome later to lvl up that 101 to 105, you'll get those 50 missing stats.

I hope it help you, ask question if you didnt understand everything.

Jadsia - Lost City · October 2014

It matters in a way because some quests and instances and especially gear are dependent on the level of your historical character - The original character before rebirth. I would level up to the highest prerequisite that the gear you want to use has. Say R9 weapon has a prerequisite that you have to be level 101 to use then once you are able to use it on the historical character you will be able to use it on much lower levels of your rebirth characters because the effective prerequisites then are just the stat points. I was able to use my full g16 NV set at rebirth 2 level 34 because I allocated the prerequisite stat points. That made leveling so much easier and faster as I was able to blow through low level BHs and PV like nothing.

Other than that it really doesn't matter because the book demon allows you to save all your exp at level 100+ and redistribute them to your previous historical chars. Say you rebirthed at level 101 the 1st time, 100 the 2nd time and 100 the 3rd time. You can save all your exp earned at level 100 into a book and when you get enough points you can allocate them to your original historical character to level it from 101 to 102 and gain those regular 5 points for the level increase and the bonus points for being rebirthed twice. Or you can allocate those book demon points to your level 100 1st rebirthed to make yourself 101,101,100. It's nice that we are allowed to make up the missed bonus points for not maxing out each level before rebirth.

jwillson123 · October 2014

Here is a guide
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1661641

mechabeastmc666 · October 2014

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

In the end you will get the same amount of points no matter what order you level your incarnations. Rebirthing halfway a level does not matter either, the exp you have is saved.

The earlier you rebirth, the sooner you get access to FSP, UCH, mirage/astral sky, primal skills etc. This is clearly the most important factor of all. I would go for second rebirth as soon as i feel fit to level my toon from 1-100 again. Even if then you would be too weak to do FSP, at least you have daylies to start working on your primal skills and mirage levels.

The higher level you are, the less exp you gain. So if you rebirth and then stay level 100 while working on your old incarnations, you maximize your exp gain. Most likely most of your exp comes from PV, then you could level to 102 without losing much though.

102 and above, your old incarnations give more stat points per xp then your current level. Looking at this aspect, it is best to first go 100-100-100 -> 102-102-102 -> 105-105-102 -> 105-105-105. Since you get benefits from having your max level as high as possible, i would advise to go 105-102-102 in between rather than leveling the 2 old incarnations equally.

I believe if you level your current level to 105 before your incarnations are 105, you get no more exp to level them. Dunno if that was true or if it is fixed. It doesnt really matter because there are so many reasons not to level your current level first.

I see, so it's all the same in the end. Good to know.

Evryn - Morai · October 2014

Not really. If you intend to go all the way, rebirth as early as possible in order to get access to the primal dailies. That's a boatload of XP and you'll get your vitae and war avatars sooner as well. If you're not properly geared yet you can get back to 100 on your lesser gear while saving up for G15/G16 or more.

Colum - Raging Tide · October 2014

I personally RBd as soon as my gear was somewhat decent on my alts, and before I started feeding xp to the demon I leveled current level to 101 for the sake of better divine quests.

Devilskarma - Raging Tide · October 2014

Why not chime in while my game is in maintenance...

The way you should level to make it easiest for yourself :

Hit 101. Rebirth.

Hit 101. Rebirth.

Hit 101. Awaken your past lives book to level up both of those to 105.

Then, once both of those are 105, you can finally level your current up to 105.

Reason : If you decide to hit 105 the first time before rebirthing, you will gain less and less experience for each level higher you get. This makes it take longer to get experience, when you compare it with :

You follow what I posted in green, as a 101rb2... You are gaining experience as a level 101 for your past levels. This might not be that much of an experience difference on a kill by kill basis, but given how many 100,000,000's in experience you need after 102 especially, you will be doing yourself a favor.

... and hello Colum and WannaBM b:flower and anyone else worth saying hello to.

mechabeastmc666 · October 2014

Devilskarma - Raging Tide wrote: »

Why not chime in while my game is in maintenance...

The way you should level to make it easiest for yourself :

Hit 101. Rebirth.

Hit 101. Rebirth.

Hit 101. Awaken your past lives book to level up both of those to 105.

Then, once both of those are 105, you can finally level your current up to 105.

Reason : If you decide to hit 105 the first time before rebirthing, you will gain less and less experience for each level higher you get. This makes it take longer to get experience, when you compare it with :

You follow what I posted in green, as a 101rb2... You are gaining experience as a level 101 for your past levels. This might not be that much of an experience difference on a kill by kill basis, but given how many 100,000,000's in experience you need after 102 especially, you will be doing yourself a favor.

... and hello Colum and WannaBM b:flower and anyone else worth saying hello to.

So just to clear things up, Lets say someone Rebirthed the first time at 105, and then They Rebirthed the 2nd time at 105 again, and now that person is lvl 105 for a 3rd time. Does that mean absolutely 0? He has no advantages over a player who rebirthed at 101, and then 100 the 2nd time?

TechDawg - Sanctuary · October 2014

mechabeastmc666 wrote: »

So just to clear things up, Lets say someone Rebirthed the first time at 105, and then They Rebirthed the 2nd time at 105 again, and now that person is lvl 105 for a 3rd time. Does that mean absolutely 0? He has no advantages over a player who rebirthed at 101, and then 100 the 2nd time?

Assuming this player that rebirthed at 101, is ALSO now 105/105/105, you are correct, there are no advantages or differences, once levels are similar between compared parties.

Rebirth at 105 Or 101?

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