Will PWI raise AH cap or help increase value of coins?

Even as a frequent gold/boutique item seller I'm against a cap increase. Gold at basically 4m each is high enough and does not need to go higher. It will alienate people that need and use coins for in game items that are not boutique items. Increase the cap and all of a sudden someone is paying 150m for standard T3 gear because cap is 5 or 6 mill or worse.

So no, leave it as is. There has been a sharp decrease in the bots you hate, and in time coins will possibly become less abundant with the exception of those of us who have an abundance of coin from various methods.

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

The earning time is only a placebo. It is working at the moment because most bot farmers had only one character leveled up for 24/7 farming. Once they have 3 characters leveled per account, earning time is not gonna be an issue anymore since they only need to rotate between chars every 8 hours.

This is so true.
FC hypers being disabled put some of us ahead of this curve. I already had enough alts from FC abuse the last few years to still maintain 2 bot sites with the new earning time. b:victory
Already seeing new neighboring bots that are obvious new alts of familiar ones.

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide wrote: »

Even as a frequent gold/boutique item seller I'm against a cap increase. Gold at basically 4m each is high enough and does not need to go higher. It will alienate people that need and use coins for in game items that are not boutique items. Increase the cap and all of a sudden someone is paying 150m for standard T3 gear because cap is 5 or 6 mill or worse.

So no, leave it as is. There has been a sharp decrease in the bots you hate, and in time coins will possibly become less abundant with the exception of those of us who have an abundance of coin from various methods.

A better method would to add more methods of farming in the game... farming through effort and time, not just... sheer OP-ness.

In one game I played (begins with A ends with N and is four letters). What I loved was the exorbitant amount of materials to dig, and there was a air mat you could mine - to help you morph what you could not dig or did not have time to dig (you also needed a food item in addition to do this). It was akin to our system in that you had to make many items to make more items, to make more items.

The plants were everywhere - not as EXTREMELY sparse as on PWI.

Alchemy was a big part of it and we had nothing like charms. We also had food and drink that increased our stats, but also varied them. There was an endless amount of selections. We also could make fast running scrolls, a temp shield scroll and so very much.. like increasing flying speed.

The thing is - if we invested time into our digging, into our crafting.. we did turn a nice dime and it made people even more self-sufficient.

The key is - adding things like this to the economy to help stabilize it.

We could craft our own gear as we do now, but we could also skin gear that we liked - that is those weapon skins we buy. We could also craft them, abet it took farming, and time - to get all of the materials..

My point is - we have an amazing community - something my other game was severely lacking... something many games lack.

But it's our economy that takes the continued hit.

What I did in that game -- helped because again -- none of what I did, was based upon how many refines I had, or etc. We had to get out there and dig and often fight off mobs or PvPers to get those mats.

When I made a very nice helm (which SHOWED by the way) -- I was so proud, even though it took some time to make. Since others made the same, it kept my prices low.

My point is -- being self sufficient is important, and using the cash shop for convenience is key. In that game, people buy skins. For their wings, it is our fashion (we skin our armor) and of course our helms show (but we don't have wigs).

We also have auto-loot pets, pets that feed us potions/food/drink at intervals, and the biggest > pack pets (they carry inventory with them) and are in varying sizes.

There is one difference there - when you dig, you do it by points and can't just go out and dig anything because you are that level. You must level your points and learn the next range of digging from amature to master, etc.

This keeps people from just getting out there and digging. You must work up to the better things.. and it takes time.

To get to the max digging takes time and has a level requirement.

My point is... your gear does not benefit you in this at all.. less your attacked in PvP or by a mob.

We need something to even things out.... and that has check and balances.. to keep botters at bay.

Kevyy - Harshlands wrote: »

lol that's horrible. How do you guys make progress on your gear in a garbage economy like that?

Rarer items from packs are 2X what they were several months ago.

I remember when I played the PvP servers - they'd quickly find and kill (and re-kill and re-kill) bots that dug the higher level mats).

First off I agree with YING there needs to be ways of non-OP to make money since most people can't solo TT or such things.

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

We all agree is not the only factor, but is one of the main factors at current game state.

I disagree, before botting I didn't have time to farm, I barely had time to play to do dailys or a TW. No matter what I did I was always 2 or 3 steps behind in gear to those that could nirvy all day or the greedy ones that would only take OP people.

Now botting while I'm working I have a full set s3 armor +10 weapon and almost enough coin for full rank9 gear. I don't see how botting has hurt me one bit.

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

Supply and demand also is affected by currency availability also. That's why countries suffers inflation and devaluation of their currency as their national product increases, or if is artificially increased by printing money non stop just for the heck of it.

I remember when RT server came up, some super genius placed gold on AH at 400,000 coins. No one purchased any and quickly dropped to about 200K, which was closer to the real amount of coins each char had at the start.

PWI isn't just printing money for the heck of it. A players toon actually has to go out and do something for it. Its not wasting time pulling weeds, or cat shopping for months in a B/S shop, but the amount of coin is controlled by the level, strenght, and somewhat how you have your toon made, and the time put into it. Yes I go through charms which requires me to buy more which gives money to the cat shoppers that don't bot, but its not free money.

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

The thing is, you shouldn't be botting to 'enjoy' the game. Not to play a game to be able play the game is not what I can call entertainment.

I agree sitting there watching your bot isn't fun or i'm guessing thats what you were going for, but I'm not sitting there watching I'm out working, spending time with my family, watching a movie and when I have time to game I got more coin in my pocket and off to WS I go to have fun.

Botting isn't the problem, people are the problem. When sins came out and the aps race was on they said if you don't like it change toons, when gold double they said if you don't like it don't buy it, now that I find it easier to farm rank 9 after years of putting my hard earn dollar into keeping this game alive people are complaining everything cost to much, and I say guess the heck what its a play for free game not be Rich for free, not be OP for free, not get everything I want for free. If you want something spend real money and support the game you love or figure out the best way for you to farm it botting is just one of those options.

Oh and BTW to every complainer out there. There is plenty of people in this game that wear npc gear and don't spend a dollar on this game and don't even have a lvl 100 toon after playing for over a year, and you may wonder why its because they have fun just running with their friends or meeting new people for different lands they find the simple things to enjoy. So either spend no money, or no time earning in-game money and find more simple enjoyment from the game or for get this free to play business and buy your gear like most of the OP people did.

As for the OP people that read this quit lyeing about farming your gear a select few might have but the rest of you didn't or PWI wouldn't have the money to fun this game.

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

If you sell gold in the AH is because you wanna make a profit, and you will sell it at the highest possible.

Whats the bigest problem in game again? Again I say its the people and you hit the nail on the head right there. People willl always want the most, more, all they can get for as little effort as possible. So yeah your not going to have a group trying to undercut prices, and even if PWI pulled all the money and set limits on gold trading your still going to have group of OP people that spend the money or time and the other 90% that don't but complain about things they still can't afford.


I quoted you but this isn't directed just to you just more of reply to what I know other people are thinking. So please don't take any of this as an attack to you has a person.


However to the complaining population at whole. If you don't like the in-game prices then support the workers of PWI and buy the darn gold your darn self. The game is only free until they lose money on it and then its gone. Complain about unbalance of toons or glitches, or better content but quit freaking complaining about free stuff, and money because all you have the power to fix that your own darn self.