Lycaeum of Cultivation - Unable to Active Unless in PK

Annalyse - Heavens Tear · September 2013

I submitted a ticket about the recent change and, even though it has before been brought up here, they told me to post in QC about it so here it is.

In the past there was always the issue of being able to fully compete in there while not in PK mode, but we PvErs could always start the instance by tabbing the invisible mob in front of the guard and using an AoE skill. It didn't always work effectively to enable running the instance as it was designed, as was reported here, but we could at least activate the instance and get our basic rewards so there wasn't too much complaint.

However, the recent content update has removed the invisible mobs, leaving us with nothing to target in order to activate the guard. You can now only start the instance if you are in PK mode. And yes, a couple of "glitches" are being passed around to enable one to go into PK mode without the time restriction for changing back, but how do we know these will not get fixed in the future also?

Nobody on a PvE server should be forced to go into PK mode for any reason. Please fix it so that PvE players can activate this instance also.

Reliea - Sanctuary · October 2013

It's been almost a month and -still- this issue is not fixed.
I have nothing more to say other than fix it now. b:pleased

leo47 · October 2013

Hi, I m having troubles since the last expansion update on the instance daily "Lycaceum Of Cultivation" on the venomancer toon of this account, I cant hit the horses to make it attack the wave of mobs coming or make it work, so no ferals reward and no NPC. If I need go to PK to do this instance to get ferals I think is so ridiculous cause is a pve server, the second NPC doesnt appear either to get the trade 1 new for 10 old ferals, thanks in advance and till is not fixed this instance I will not go pk anymore just to do this, thanks!

Mariano Travaglini.

leo47 · October 2013

total agree with Annalyse, thanks!!

Desdi - Sanctuary · October 2013

There hasn't even been an official word on it, let alone a fix.

Merna - Heavens Tear · October 2013

Um... i have been doing veno daily pretty much every day (when i dont forget) since the update and im not in pk mode. The invisible mobs have not been removed they are still there, u just cant target them. To start the quest without going in pk mode this is what u gotta do:
1) go inside and speak to the npc to start it (just like before)
2) press esc so u have nothing in the target
3) walk towards where the guards/horses face is (outside the guard circle), u gotta be pretty close to the guard
4) stand there for a few seconds - u will then be put in battle mode (ur character will start acting as if being hit, but u wont take any damage), also a whiteish circle will appear on ground next to u. U still wont have anything targeted.
5) press ur aoe skill (yes even tho u dont have anything in target, press it -.- ). Character will aoe and mobs will start coming. Now u can afk for 10 min or w/e it is till its done.
This way u wont b able to get any good score ofc but at least u will get the daily 18 souls.
And before anyone tells me this dont work - it does work, try again.

FallenEvWolf - Dreamweaver · October 2013

Merna - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Um... i have been doing veno daily pretty much every day (when i dont forget) since the update and im not in pk mode. The invisible mobs have not been removed they are still there, u just cant target them. To start the quest without going in pk mode this is what u gotta do:
1) go inside and speak to the npc to start it (just like before)
2) press esc so u have nothing in the target
3) walk towards where the guards/horses face is (outside the guard circle), u gotta be pretty close to the guard
4) stand there for a few seconds - u will then be put in battle mode (ur character will start acting as if being hit, but u wont take any damage), also a whiteish circle will appear on ground next to u. U still wont have anything targeted.
5) press ur aoe skill (yes even tho u dont have anything in target, press it -.- ). Character will aoe and mobs will start coming. Now u can afk for 10 min or w/e it is till its done.
This way u wont b able to get any good score ofc but at least u will get the daily 18 souls.
And before anyone tells me this dont work - it does work, try again.

This worked. Thank you. ^^

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear · October 2013

FallenEvWolf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This worked. Thank you. ^^

I'm gonna try this out today as well... I hope it'll work indeed... Still not a lot of Stars... But at least it keeps stacking if I do his every day... b:thanks

Edit: This worked... Still far from the best option but it's something for now... b:surrender

BungaSakura - Raging Tide · October 2013

i usually put my pet in defence mode. pet attacking bird and i became pink. after that i relog to hit npc. but yesterday, i try do that, but i keep blue. so i have to switch into pk mode. this is annoying because i dont wanna stay 10 hours in pk. if i wanna be pk all the time, i should have reroll to pvp server x.x

Reliea - Sanctuary · October 2013

Yet another maint goes by, and yet another week they don't fix this, or even mention that it's not fixed, or that they do or do not have any intention of fixing this ever

Don't worry, we're still here to remind you, every week b:pleased

Reliea - Sanctuary · October 2013

Whatcha doin guys? Still not fixing things?

dats cool dats cool, we're still waiting no worries b:chuckle

Desdi - Sanctuary · October 2013

It's ok, just keep reminding them, they won't get rid of us!

y4kuzi · October 2013

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

... And yes, a couple of "glitches" are being passed around to enable one to go into PK mode without the time restriction for changing back ...

Do tell!

Desdi - Sanctuary · October 2013

The the new pet instance discussion thread on the veno sub-forums for that.

dadsmule · October 2013

Merna - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Um... i have been doing veno daily pretty much every day (when i dont forget) since the update and im not in pk mode. The invisible mobs have not been removed they are still there, u just cant target them. To start the quest without going in pk mode this is what u gotta do:
1) go inside and speak to the npc to start it (just like before)
2) press esc so u have nothing in the target
3) walk towards where the guards/horses face is (outside the guard circle), u gotta be pretty close to the guard
4) stand there for a few seconds - u will then be put in battle mode (ur character will start acting as if being hit, but u wont take any damage), also a whiteish circle will appear on ground next to u. U still wont have anything targeted.
5) press ur aoe skill (yes even tho u dont have anything in target, press it -.- ). Character will aoe and mobs will start coming. Now u can afk for 10 min or w/e it is till its done.
This way u wont b able to get any good score ofc but at least u will get the daily 18 souls.
And before anyone tells me this dont work - it does work, try again.

I tried it exactly like you said , it did not work for me. I did get the white circle but no mobs or credits. I had to go into PK mode to get anything , I do not like being forced ino PK mode when I refuse to PK.

Kazeodori - Heavens Tear · November 2013

Can start it, can get 18 feral stars. Come on, I'd like to actually get this done the right way without going pvp. I'm seriously PVE only.

That little pass over the circle and hope I see it activate to AOE it only goes so far. It's ridiculous that it's taking this long to get any amount of feral stars.

Kazeodori - Heavens Tear · December 2013

Hello again. It's been a while. Still don't see a response on this, even though the problem is still there.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear · December 2013

I've pretty much given up hope on this. We haven't ever had an answer or acknowledgement of the problem so my conclusion is that they really don't care.

Kristina_t - Heavens Tear · February 2014

Another Ignored glitch/bug for venomancers.

Kristina_t - Heavens Tear · March 2014

Bump due to lack of response.

eediot · March 2014

Submitted multiple tickets on this, as usual with any PW issue, no useful response, no admission that anything is wrong. Would this go on so long with a pay game?

Get the cheap chinese programmers off their butts and give them something to do.

I am so fed up with a company that values profit over taking care of the customer.

Kristina_t - Heavens Tear · April 2014

Bump because pwe ignores problems within their games.

eediot · June 2014

This has been an ongoing problem for many months. If you are not in PvP, you cannot do the veno lycaeum completely. There is a glitch where you can start "The Rift" by hitting the escape button, running over to the first horse, and holding Shift and doing an aoe, but you can't control the puffbird to do the stupid thing correctly. I have submitted multiple tickets months ago with no resolution yet. Why can't PW actually fix anything correctly and in a timely manner?

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver · June 2014

eediot wrote: »

Why can't PW actually fix anything correctly and in a timely manner?

Because these sort of things have to be fixed by China specifically for our version, because China doesn't have any PvE servers.
And thus to get it fixed it goes like this:

1.) The west gets a patch from the east

2.) Things break and don't work correctly because east doesn't give a flying **** about the west version and the fact it works completely different from their version

3.) Players of the west notice that things don't work the way they should (for the west version at least) and rage ensues!

4.) This is where the forums come into play:
4.1) Players go to forum and make a thread about something being broken or not working as it should for our version.

4.2) Players wonder why PWE is so incompetent to make content work for our version.

4.3) Someone is going to act smartypantswise (in this case me) and says that PWE can't do anything about this, besides telling the eastern part that something doesn't work in our western version.

4.4) (this is the next step for this thread) Someone will say this has been notified MONTHS ago (well that already happened in OP) and will post how incompetent PWE is for not doing anything about this.
OR
Someone will post "stop with the PWE can't do anything excuse, ofcourse they can!"
OR
Someone will post "Nothing ever get's fixed" after a rant.
OR
<insert rant here>

5.) Someone from PWE says they are looking into it

5.1) If lucky, they contact east

5.1.1) If very lucky, east will care enough to fix it for our western version

5.1.2) Most likely, east will say deal with it

6.) Depending on result of step 5:

6.1) All is well after it gets patched for west! (after +/- 3 months of point 5)
OR
6.2) We get the message to deal with it and that's the end of it, after a few weeks/months, repeat step 1 and get linked to previous thread about this topic.

That being said; don't expect any sort of fix any time soon since it's been like this ever since it got released, which is a long time ago.

anaovt1 · June 2014

Sweetiebot, please give 5 points to DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver for that wonderfully sassy and truthful explanation.

SweetieBot - Lothranis · June 2014

anaovt1 wrote: »

Sweetiebot, please give 5 points to DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver for that wonderfully sassy and truthful explanation.

anaovt1 awards 5 points to DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver!
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anaovt1 can still award another 25 points today.

Check this thread for the current high scores and to learn how to award points to others.

eediot · June 2014

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Because these sort of things have to be fixed by China specifically for our version, because China doesn't have any PvE servers.
And thus to get it fixed it goes like this:

1.) The west gets a patch from the east

2.) Things break and don't work correctly because east doesn't give a flying **** about the west version and the fact it works completely different from their version

3.) Players of the west notice that things don't work the way they should (for the west version at least) and rage ensues!

4.) This is where the forums come into play:
4.1) Players go to forum and make a thread about something being broken or not working as it should for our version.

4.2) Players wonder why PWE is so incompetent to make content work for our version.

4.3) Someone is going to act smartypantswise (in this case me) and says that PWE can't do anything about this, besides telling the eastern part that something doesn't work in our western version.

4.4) (this is the next step for this thread) Someone will say this has been notified MONTHS ago (well that already happened in OP) and will post how incompetent PWE is for not doing anything about this.
OR
Someone will post "stop with the PWE can't do anything excuse, ofcourse they can!"
OR
Someone will post "Nothing ever get's fixed" after a rant.
OR
<insert rant here>

5.) Someone from PWE says they are looking into it

5.1) If lucky, they contact east

5.1.1) If very lucky, east will care enough to fix it for our western version

5.1.2) Most likely, east will say deal with it

6.) Depending on result of step 5:

6.1) All is well after it gets patched for west! (after +/- 3 months of point 5)
OR
6.2) We get the message to deal with it and that's the end of it, after a few weeks/months, repeat step 1 and get linked to previous thread about this topic.

That being said; don't expect any sort of fix any time soon since it's been like this ever since it got released, which is a long time ago.

Uh, so, you mean they don't care if we have problems, as long as we keep spending money?

Mayfly - Dreamweaver · June 2014

No, he means China doesn't care if PWI has problems, because this particular problem has no impact on their version. It's been long enough since Lycaeum was introduced that if they were going to fix it, it would already be fixed.

ortini · July 2014

still doesn't work

Kazeodori - Heavens Tear · July 2014

10 months now. No update other than that information on this was passed onto the main PWI company.

Would really appreciate an update on this. It's not likely we'll get one though.

Kazeodori - Heavens Tear · September 2014

Yes, it's been a while since any one posted in this.

This is still an issue. It's actually gotten worse with the latest major patch. Now there is no "invisible mob" that a pve only veno can target and start the instance on. You have to enter it in PK or you cannot start it.

Can we at least have the invisible mob back? b:surrender

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