Would this be accepted in FSP?

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Night$aber - Dreamweaver
Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Barbarian
Would a barb with this gear be accepted in FSP?

http://pwcalc.com/9ed0baf71adef608

There will also be G16 claws but i thought they aren't important for this matter.With meridians,nuemas,some cards that should be 15k hp but i dont know about the damage/aggro with that axe.
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  • Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Can Tank? Yes, with any decent cleric.

    Can hold aggro? Nope. Any S3R9 or high refine G16 will just rip aggro off you, until u upgrade your axe. But you can always ask the dd-ers nicely to hold off their damage on toad boss. There will always be someone who can tank the other bosses. I dont think anybody would refuse to take a barb anyways; that's because their buffs already make a big difference.
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  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    I could actually go for the Morai G15 axes.From what i can see,they are almost equal to the G16 and at a lower price.If anyone knows there is a big difference,could anyone show me the damage difference?
  • Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721
    edited July 2014
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    Little hint: Get Nirvy G15 with GoF or T3 and refine to around +5 at least(and even then you can't keep aggro from any R9rr, hardly from T3+10 casters unless you're better barb than 95% of barbs out there). And for tanking purposes get some elemental ornaments and HA-boots+wrists. That elem. res. sucks. APS-barb without actual tanking gears gives bad name for APS-barbs.

    And shard those gears. With that shard replacement-thingie at PW Boutique Agent there's no proper reason to go shardless these days.
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  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Point was i won't shard anything until i can get the morai exclusive shards and incomparables from weeklies.What is that shard replacement thingie you're talking about.And still,how weak are G15 morai axes compared to G16?
  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Morai: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33534
    G16: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34764

    Slaying level +60 vs Atk Lvl +40. For pure PVE, the morai weapon is better.
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    Ulsyr 103/103/104 BM. Working on the last R9 part (Axe).
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  • slamstone
    slamstone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    in what world?

    Hellfire Hatchets: Sky

    Physical attack 646-1508
    Slaying Level: +60
    At 60 slaying level (as found on G15 morai weapons) you only have +50% damage amplification.


    ☆Unicorn's Tragedy

    Physical attack 1020-2379
    Atk. Level +40
  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    From what i calculated,it comes preety close to g16 since slaying levels stack multiplicatively,but i might be wrong.
  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    True, you have a lower base damage - but since it's a G15 axe, you can use the free orbs you get from leveling up to boost that axe as far as +7 for minimal costs (bound and <G16 required). And rerolling it for good stats before upgrading them doesn't cost a whole lot...

    If you want a cheap barb that'll hold aggro at Frog, the Morai axe isn't a bad choice. It is better then Nirvana G15... almost on par with G16.
    I'm so P.R.O... I Press Respawn Often.

    Ulsyr 103/103/104 BM. Working on the last R9 part (Axe).
    Khelvan 103/103/103 LA Cler. LA? LA. Deal with it.
    Evryn 103/102/101 Sagely Mystical Myst of Mystiness.
    Gromth 102/102/102 Sage Panda.
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    True, you have a lower base damage - but since it's a G15 axe, you can use the free orbs you get from leveling up to boost that axe as far as +7 for minimal costs (bound and <G16 required). And rerolling it for good stats before upgrading them doesn't cost a whole lot...

    If you want a cheap barb that'll hold aggro at Frog, the Morai axe isn't a bad choice. It is better then Nirvana G15... almost on par with G16.

    Unless he is getting a G16 axe in the end or something better, it would be wasteful to use the 6* and 7* bound orbs you get from the leveling-up chest on that morai axe. They can be used on G16 just as well, even on R9.

    @OP: your current built will quite literally not hold aggro in FSP, even spamming every aggro skills it will take only one G16+7 DD class to crit and aggro's gone. Maybe with a 2min headstart they could start attacking without sparking but still, very advisable to get the weapons discussed here first or have some extreme luck with FSP squad that let's you take aggro for 2min. (there are always morons who attack before barb even used a flesh realm b:surrender)

    I don't know howfar you are with your weekly shards, but I'd suggest to put some cheap replacement shards in there (even if only the +25 hp shards which are 60k coins ea) as it will help a lot for a very small investment. Once you have your weekly shards talk to the PWI Boutique agent (I think?NPC next to banker in West) to replace your shards for the weekly ones.
  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Those free orbs can not be used on G16 stuff. The description clearly states the equipment level is demanded -under- level 16. Unless that description is false then G16 gear cannot be upgraded using those (and please let me know if that's the case...)
    I'm so P.R.O... I Press Respawn Often.

    Ulsyr 103/103/104 BM. Working on the last R9 part (Axe).
    Khelvan 103/103/103 LA Cler. LA? LA. Deal with it.
    Evryn 103/102/101 Sagely Mystical Myst of Mystiness.
    Gromth 102/102/102 Sage Panda.
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  • Beleni - Dreamweaver
    Beleni - Dreamweaver Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Point was i won't shard anything until i can get the morai exclusive shards and incomparables from weeklies.What is that shard replacement thingie you're talking about.And still,how weak are G15 morai axes compared to G16?

    pvp targets, the g16 wins Hands down every time, and every attack.

    G16 vs g15 Morai in terms of pvm though, it is very close.

    i had g16 axes refined to + 7 and Hellfire's refined to + 4.

    Auto attacks on the g16 do more damage, it is around 20% more damage. ( would be less if refines were equal)

    However... Armageddon
    i sundergeddon for just over 1 mil damage with the Hellfires, and g16 doesn't come anywhere close to this.

    Also the HellFires might be a good choice for you since you can very easily roll 3 x Vit / Hp bonus on them.
    As your Hp is very low.

    tweaked it http://pwcalc.com/94086bf349b7ec19
  • Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721
    edited July 2014
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    HellFires have so crappy base damage that T2 with GoF should far outdamage them. T2-axes shouldn't cost too much to make either, TT90-polehammer -> TT99 Gold Polehammer -> T2 dual axes and some rerolls.

    http://pwcalc.com/4270bf2633dc26ae

    Getting those elemental ornaments(till you get G14s) shouldn't cost much.
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  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Those free orbs can not be used on G16 stuff. The description clearly states the equipment level is demanded -under- level 16. Unless that description is false then G16 gear cannot be upgraded using those (and please let me know if that's the case...)

    Under means "<=" so it works
    ~ Sage Mystic 105-105-105 ~
    ~ Sage Sin 103-103-102 ~
    ~ Sage vita Barb 103-102-101 ~
    ~ Sage BM 102-101 ~ Demon Archer 102 ~
    ~ Sage Cleric 102 ~ Demon Wizard 101 ~
    ~ Sage Seeker 101 ~ Sage Psy 101 ~
    ~ Sage Heavy Veno 101 ~ Demon Storm 9X ~ Dusk 6x ~
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  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Are you sure about that, Zoldi? For if so... then what's the point of that being put on those orbs? There's no gear above grade 16. (That said, if that's the case then I will have an easy time bringing my cler's G16 wand to +7 as soon as I get the mold :) )
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    Ulsyr 103/103/104 BM. Working on the last R9 part (Axe).
    Khelvan 103/103/103 LA Cler. LA? LA. Deal with it.
    Evryn 103/102/101 Sagely Mystical Myst of Mystiness.
    Gromth 102/102/102 Sage Panda.
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  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Are you sure about that, Zoldi?

    Totally. I used them on my sin's NV3 weapon and on my barb's NV3 armor. Also said to some guildmates to do tje same and it worked for all of them. It works also for NW reforge items and probably for R9.3 if you bind it.
    ~ Sage Mystic 105-105-105 ~
    ~ Sage Sin 103-103-102 ~
    ~ Sage vita Barb 103-102-101 ~
    ~ Sage BM 102-101 ~ Demon Archer 102 ~
    ~ Sage Cleric 102 ~ Demon Wizard 101 ~
    ~ Sage Seeker 101 ~ Sage Psy 101 ~
    ~ Sage Heavy Veno 101 ~ Demon Storm 9X ~ Dusk 6x ~
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  • Evryn - Morai
    Evryn - Morai Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    Iiiiinteresting.

    Then a G16 weapon upgraded with those orbs to +7 for practically nothing would be the way to go.
    I'm so P.R.O... I Press Respawn Often.

    Ulsyr 103/103/104 BM. Working on the last R9 part (Axe).
    Khelvan 103/103/103 LA Cler. LA? LA. Deal with it.
    Evryn 103/102/101 Sagely Mystical Myst of Mystiness.
    Gromth 102/102/102 Sage Panda.
    StoneSnake - Snakeshop for everyone's common stones.
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    personally, if i were going for an aps build on a barb without dipping into rank gears and rerolls etc.. I would build something like: http://pwcalc.com/2ff3fe362f3180f7

    the whole purpose of building dex is to wear fists/claws and the whole purpose of doing that is to maximize damage output, so I took the 50 vit out of the build and moved it to STR. I took a few points out of dex as well and allocated them to str - as I statted the build to wear a pair of striking dragons. The current setup shown is a bit more expensive (namely the pan gu creator) but allows for 3.33 aps which is perma-sparked on a demon barb (useless for fsp, but will be nice for soling TT runs for example). The extra str allocation and a g16 pole with +40 attack levels combined with a jones blessing and the attack level from g14 cube neck will go a long way with holding aggro. Overall with the ornament change - much better defenses. refines and shards will make it less squishy HP pool wise.
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    He would be accepted probably because many squads are looking for barbs.

    You should however get yourself a set of heavy armor. Being only APS without HA to swap when needed is no good.
    Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.