Raging Tide's TW Report - Week 25

Colum - Raging Tide
Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Tideswell (East)
This seems to be the week of ganks and I'm quite sure it is not coincidence, it'll be interesting to see how the defending factions will respond to the ganks. Previously it has been mostly ganking Vicious in the past (and QQme even longer time ago) but now also smaller factions get their part of it. Let's hope they don't wine!

This week we have,

TERRITORY WARS

Territory War Weekend of 06/21/2014-06/22/2014

Post TW map of Raging Tide - http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/scullreaper/2014-06-1604-55-37_zps0219506f.png

Offense
Defense


Saturday (06/21/2014)

Volt attacks Tellus City held by SC - 2:00 PM EST
Marine attacks Tradewind Village held by LOLIANCE - 2:03 PM EST
BlackList attacks Dragon's End held by Aphrodite - 2:06 PM EST
PILIPNAS attacks Sanctuary held by Wanted - 2:09 PM EST

LEGIONES attacks Dreamweaver Port held by Vicious - 8:00 PM EST
SC attacks King's Feast held by Vicious - 8:03 PM EST
Serrated attacks Dreaming Cloud held by Vicious - 8:06 PM EST
Wanted attacks Fragnant Hills held by PILIPNAS - 8:09 PM EST
OPROENEMY attacks Misfortune City held by PILIPNAS - 8:12 PM EST
Vertu attacks Haunted Path held by PILIPNAS - 8:15 PM EST
Zoo attacks Dribbling Spring held by BlackList - 8:18 PM EST
Frantic attacks Dragon Wilderness held by BlackList - 8:21 PM EST
BwareofUs attacks Thousand Streams - 8:24 PM EST
Leviathan attacks Broken Plain held by Marine - 8:27 PM EST
RedDragon attacks Immolation Camp held by LostTears - 8:30 PM EST


Sunday (06/22/2014)

QQme attacks The White Ridge held by Volt - 2:00 PM EST

Guilds/Factions on the map not participating in TW this week

Infamy
Valkarie
WillKraft
CRUSH
AK47

TW predictions

Saturday (06/21/2014)

Volt attacks Tellus City held by SC - SC turtles and manages to defend

Marine attacks Tradewind Village held by LOLIANCE - LOLIANCE keeps their territory

BlackList attacks Dragon's End held by Aphrodite - BlackList wins

PILIPNAS attacks Sanctuary held by Wanted - PILIPNAS outnumbers Wanted and wins

LEGIONES attacks Dreamweaver Port held by Vicious - Vicious manages to defend

SC attacks King's Feast held by Vicious - Vicious manages to defend

Serrated attacks Dreaming Cloud held by Vicious - Vicious manages to defend

Wanted attacks Fragnant Hills held by PILIPNAS - PILIPNAS manages to defend

OPROENEMY attacks Misfortune City held by PILIPNAS - OPROENEMY wins shortly

Vertu attacks Haunted Path held by PILIPNAS - Vertu wins

Zoo attacks Dribbling Spring held by BlackList - BlackList wines Zoo

Frantic attacks Dragon Wilderness held by BlackList - BlackList manages to defend and destroys FranTic crystal

BwareofUs attacks Thousand Streams - b:chuckle Run mobs, run!

Leviathan attacks Broken Plain held by Marine - Leviathan takes Marine down in 10 minutes.

RedDragon attacks Immolation Camp held by LostTears - LostTears holds over an hour until RedDragon gets their crystal

Sunday (06/22/2014)

QQme attacks The White Ridge held by Volt - QQme wins in 10 minutes

Colum's random thoughts on this weeks turn out

Ganks... ganks... SO MUCH GANKS. b:shocked Vicu, BlackList and PILIPNAS get to have fun.

LostTears is finally being attacked, it's interesting to see how long they can hold against RedDragon.

Vertu seems to be revived. I always loved that faction icon.


TW Results! - 06/21/2014 (Saturday)

Volt attacks Tellus City held by SC - SC got inside Volt base with a steady push, they get pushed back once but then get Volt xtal down in 25 minutes, SC keeps Tellus City.

Marine attacks Tradewind Village held by LOLIANCE - TW starts quite balanced and with even numbers, Marine takes advantage and gets into Loli base but they manage to push Marines back shortly. After first hour Marine loses some members due to irl activities, LOLIANCE takes over, destroys Marine crystal and keeps Tradewind Village.

BlackList attacks Dragon's End held by Aphrodite - BlackList takes Dragon's End in 7 minutes.

PILIPNAS attacks Sanctuary held by Wanted - PILIPNAS takes Sanctuary in 30 minutes.

LEGIONES attacks Dreamweaver Port held by Vicious -Vicious wines, LEGIONES takes Dreamweaver Port in 6 minutes.

SC attacks King's Feast held by Vicious - Vicious wines, SC takes King's Feast in 20 minutes.

Serrated attacks Dreaming Cloud held by Vicious - Vicious wines, Serrated takes Dreaming Cloud.

Wanted attacks Fragnant Hills held by PILIPNAS - PILIPNAS keeps Fragnant Hills.

OPROENEMY attacks Misfortune City held by PILIPNAS - Both sides meet on B lane, there are a lot of pushes and towers destroyed, OPROENEMY makes it through to PILIPNAS base and takes Misfortune City in 2 hours.

Vertu attacks Haunted Path held by PILIPNAS - Vertu waited for PILIPNAS for an hour, pinoys didnt make it in time, Vertu takes Haunted Path.

Zoo attacks Dribbling Spring held by BlackList - Zoo takes Dribbling Spring in 10 minutes.

FranTic attacks Dragon Wilderness held by BlackList - Both facs meet on lane B, BlackList starts off well but their catas couldnt tank FranTic's wizards, FranTic takes Dragon Wilderness in 1 hour 45 minutes.

BwareofUs attacks Thousand Streams - Mobs were no match to BwareofUs who takes Thousand Streams in 8 minutes.

Leviathan attacks Broken Plain held by Marine - Leviathan takes Broken Plain.

RedDragon attacks Immolation Camp held by LostTears - RedDragon takes Immolation Camp in one hour.


TW Results! - 06/22/2014 (Sunday)

QQme attacks The White Ridge held by Volt - QQme takes The White Ridge in 40 minutes, they went in NPC gear to make the fight more fair and also chose unusual cata-pullers. Nice work from both factions!


TW map of Raging Tide after wars - http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/scullreaper/2014-06-2221-46-51_zpsa379d51c.png

LAND COUNT

LAST WEEK'S
PILIPNAS - 3
SC - 4
Vicious - 3
Infamy - 2
Volt - 3
Valkarie - 3
Marine - 1
WillKraft - 1
Zoo - 3
QQme - 4
LEGIONES - 3
CRUSH - 2
Wanted - 1
AK47 - 2
Leviathan - 3
OPROENEMY - 2
LostTears - 1
LOLIANCE - 2
Aphrodite - 1
BwareofUs - 3
BlackList - 2

THIS WEEK'S
PILIPNAS - 2
SC - 5
Infamy - 2
Volt - 2
Valkarie - 3
WillKraft - 1
Zoo - 4
QQme - 5
LEGIONES - 4
CRUSH - 2
AK47 - 2
Leviathan - 4
OPROENEMY - 3
LOLIANCE - 2
BwareofUs - 4
BlackList - 1
Serrated - 1
Vertu - 1
FranTic - 1
RedDragon - 1

PREVIOUS WEEKS

Week 21
Week 22
Week 23
Week 24

I have no intention to insult anyone by these reports, I'm making them out of my pure interest and curiosity. I try to give my best effort to this and you, the TW players, can help me with that! Also any info about how the TW went after it happened from the TW fac officers or core members would be appreciated.
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  • _Elementz_ - Heavens Tear
    _Elementz_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    LEGIONES attacks Dreamweaver Port held by Vicious - Vicious manages to defend (Paid off)

    SC attacks King's Feast held by Vicious - Vicious manages to defend (Viku alt faction bid)

    Serrated attacks Dreaming Cloud held by Vicious - Vicious manages to defend (Paid off/ alt faction bid)


    This is a desperate move by a sinking viku ship to relocate before it gets too late for them to do so, they will loose all these fights on purpose.
    -Whoz_Nutz alt of that other alt-b:shocked
  • Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I am glad you think Vertu will win, and we hope we do. We have spoken to the leader of PILIPNAS and we wait up to 1 hour until they finish their TW. At least it is a later TW time so everyone from Vertu can make it (all 10 of us -.-). If they bring more than 20 I am not sure what our chances are.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    RedDragon attacks Immolation Camp held by LostTears - LostTears holds over an hour until RedDragon gets their crystal

    Frankly, I think we will lose sooner than that, but it depends on how many RedDragon brings, and how well geared they are.

    LostTears has had a few firsts this TW season. First time on the map 4 weeks running (don't know why people ignored us this long), first bid against an owned land (but Blacklist out-bid us on metal's land), if we last much over an hour that'd be another record.
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I am glad you think Vertu will win, and we hope we do. We have spoken to the leader of PILIPNAS and we wait up to 1 hour until they finish their TW. At least it is a later TW time so everyone from Vertu can make it (all 10 of us -.-). If they bring more than 20 I am not sure what our chances are.

    Yeah I believe it is possible for Vertu to win the war, have fun in your TW! b:pleased
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Frankly, I think we will lose sooner than that, but it depends on how many RedDragon brings, and how well geared they are.

    LostTears has had a few firsts this TW season. First time on the map 4 weeks running (don't know why people ignored us this long), first bid against an owned land (but Blacklist out-bid us on metal's land), if we last much over an hour that'd be another record.

    From what I've seen RedDragon lacks the power, though that might be just me since I haven't really seen anyone from that guild. I know few of their officers, though, and they aren't insanely OP geared. LostTears might have chances to defend, and I hope you will have a great time.
    Leader of Cyanure on Valonsurma and a proud member of Vertu
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    We lasted longer than I expected, and not quite as long as you predicted. 57 minutes, and it was almost even (15 to 13.)

    That's the most we've had show up for a defense (even counting that some were buff alts), the most even defense we've had personnel wise, and not quite the longest we've lasted. They were definitely more organized than us.
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Saturday night updated.
    Leader of Cyanure on Valonsurma and a proud member of Vertu
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  • ShibaShiba - Raging Tide
    ShibaShiba - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    OPROENEMY agreed to wait for PILIPNAS until their tw versus Wanted ended.
    It was a great TW with more or less equal numbers and the gear advantage on PILIPNAS side.
    OPROENEMY kept up the pressure on B-lane during the entire TW. PILIPNAS made a few successful pushes on C lane, destroying all the towers on that lane, which enabled them to attack the crystaltowers a few times. after almost two hours of coordinated attacks OPROENEMY finally destroyed the enemy crystal. it was a fantastic tw, always a pleasure to fight the nice and very friendly people of PILIPNAS. b:thanks


    btw
    i am confused. am i to congratulate vicous (alt-fcactions) for defeating vicous, or am i supposed to condole vicious to lose to vicous (alt-factions), twice. b:puzzled
  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    SC faction underestimated AGAIN. Made CLEAR TW wins offf weaker factions like Volt and Vicious. Wasnt expecting to roll Vicious but trouble with the faction seems to have them wining EVERY TW. Volt got rolled though and made very little impact on SC towers. Seems they ate some spawnkill too as a reminder of what happens when u mess with SC!
    O.o WOW just noticed Vicious is free to GO ANYWHERE on the map. Watch ur back maybe that weak faction is looking to prove they will ALWAYS REMAIND 2nd or 1st on the SERVER we will seee if they will sink to 3rd like QQme did a few times when they were under a Vicious shoe
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  • Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ShibaShiba - Raging Tide wrote: »
    OPROENEMY agreed to wait for PILIPNAS until their tw versus Wanted ended.

    QQ we had the same deal but they told us after they beat Wanted they were going to fight you guys. I wish we would have known that so we wouldn't of had to wait for 1 hr for nothing really. It sounds like you guys had fun so that's good. Now we will never know how 11 Vertu would have stood up to PILIPNAS. b:surrender
  • LadyGwen - Raging Tide
    LadyGwen - Raging Tide Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    [QUOTE=Colum

    FranTic attacks Dragon Wilderness held by BlackList - Both facs meet on lane B, BlackList starts off well but their catas couldnt tank FranTic's wizards, FranTic takes Dragon Wilderness in 1 hour 45 minutes.

    [/QUOTE]

    ~ Correction: WIZARD* (As in ONE) Filmer, to be exact b:pleased
  • Boartracker - Raging Tide
    Boartracker - Raging Tide Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Colum,

    Thank you for your work on this project. b:thanks

    As much as I hate to see it, Marine's are off the map after Saturday night's wine of Levi. We are having a lot of fun with many of our friends, so we'll be back. b:thanks

    b:bye
    Semper Fi,

    Boartracker

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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    LadyGwen - Raging Tide wrote: »
    ~ Correction: WIZARD* (As in ONE) Filmer, to be exact b:pleased

    b:chuckle I know Filmer was the main scary one but someone mentioned also other name that BlackList saw as a threat.
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  • peaceskyboy
    peaceskyboy Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Lol 25min isnt rolling another fac...8mins is a roll. Its sad because SC is still an alt fac, explain the fact that you took few members from vici and for some reason they're back in Vici? Volt is still new and we had our fun especially the fact you cLLed us weak but yet u needed to spawn kill i find that hilarious!!! Think before you type and try to troll. I for sure know Volt did get into SC's base. Took a tower down near crystal and i called them back to our base to help push out. If it was very little impact to ya why did it take so long to roll Volt? If we're so weak lo but way to put it this waa a good laugh SC isnt an alt fac? But you're trying so hard to make it seem like its a real fac hopping back and forth in vici from SC lol. I had fun tho i love how cocky people are for no reason as if yall immortal. l
  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Update done!
    Leader of Cyanure on Valonsurma and a proud member of Vertu
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    Demon Pure Mag Cleric 102/102/101 | Demon 4 APS Assassin 102/102/101 | Demon Pure Mag Mystic 102/101/101 | Demon Pure Mag Psychic 100/100/93 | Demon 4 APS-Barbarian 100/100 | HA-venomancer 100 | DPH Assassin 100 | Pure Mag Wizard 100 | Demon Pure Mag Stormbringer 96 | Demon DPS Archer 94 | Sage Vit Barbarian 93 | Demon All-Path Blademaster 93 | Str Seeker 86 | Pure Mag Venomancer 81 | Pure Mag Wizard 81 | Pure Dex Duskblade 47
  • Jenisky - Raging Tide
    Jenisky - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Sorry Boar & Marine... didn't mean to pick on you twice in a row, just wrong place wrong time :/ Good luck with your future TWs!

    good job to all factions left on the map and thanks for doing this Colum, super fun :)
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    peaceskyboy wrote: »
    Lol 25min isnt rolling another fac...8mins is a roll. Its sad because SC is still an alt fac, explain the fact that you took few members from vici and for some reason they're back in Vici? Volt is still new and we had our fun especially the fact you cLLed us weak but yet u needed to spawn kill i find that hilarious!!! Think before you type and try to troll. I for sure know Volt did get into SC's base. Took a tower down near crystal and i called them back to our base to help push out. If it was very little impact to ya why did it take so long to roll Volt? If we're so weak lo but way to put it this waa a good laugh SC isnt an alt fac? But you're trying so hard to make it seem like its a real fac hopping back and forth in vici from SC lol. I had fun tho i love how cocky people are for no reason as if yall immortal. l

    b:bye

    Sorry you ate too much spawn kill but Spawn killing is a TW Tactic you would do it if you could too
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  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    elvenne still using boogie's account to troll i see
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  • Martinezska - Heavens Tear
    Martinezska - Heavens Tear Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Serrated turned up to TW with ONE PERSON? SC is a vici alt guild ? vici wud roll legiones without a doubt, something isnt right there, im sure people will be enjoying bans shortly (: b:laugh
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  • Flamengo - Raging Tide
    Flamengo - Raging Tide Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    b:thanks ty for do this for Raging Tide Colum. It make us know about something about raging tide b:pleased

    I hope this week will be fun.Good luck for any faction who have map
  • DirtySanches - Raging Tide
    DirtySanches - Raging Tide Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Martinezska - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Serrated turned up to TW with ONE PERSON? SC is a vici alt guild ? vici wud roll legiones without a doubt, something isnt right there, im sure people will be enjoying bans shortly (: b:laugh

    xHeavenly changed from hispanic to irish white??? Something isn't right there. I'm sure people will be enjoying bans shortly b:laugh
  • Terrorism - Lothranis
    Terrorism - Lothranis Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    DirtySanches - Raging Tide wrote: »
    xHeavenly changed from hispanic to irish white??? Something isn't right there. I'm sure people will be enjoying bans shortly b:laugh

    One would think he's smart enough to post with a diferent account or at least choose the renamed avatar to hide the fact that he bought that account, but i guess not. b:chuckle
  • Martinezska - Heavens Tear
    Martinezska - Heavens Tear Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Terrorism - Lothranis wrote: »
    One would think he's smart enough to post with a diferent account or at least choose the renamed avatar to hide the fact that he bought that account, but i guess not. b:chuckle

    awww someones butt hurt b:laugh
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  • Rubybeard - Archosaur
    Rubybeard - Archosaur Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    i like how vicious are that butthurt that the truth got mentioned on forums for everyone to see that they have to threaten others indirectly. Vicious havent changed a bit, still a bunch of r9r2's that think they are pro but get beat by a 1 man tw faction LOL! and pay other factions to bid on them cos they havent got the nuts to defend QQme. awww poor poor vicious b:laugh b:laugh b:laugh b:laugh still think they are top dogs of the server b:laugh
  • Terrorism - Lothranis
    Terrorism - Lothranis Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Martinezska - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    awww someones butt hurt

    What kind of lame comeback is that? If you have nothing to say just stay quiet, you look less ridiculous that way.
    Rubybeard - Archosaur wrote: »
    i like how vicious are that butthurt that the truth got mentioned on forums for everyone to see that they have to threaten others indirectly. Vicious havent changed a bit, still a bunch of r9r2's that think they are pro but get beat by a 1 man tw faction LOL! and pay other factions to bid on them cos they havent got the nuts to defend QQme. awww poor poor vicious still think they are top dogs of the server

    Oh so that's your original char lmao you bite so easily! Saves the trouble of finding out your other account to someone who would be interested in reporting you, it's damn hilarious to see you dragging yourself through the mud on your own b:laugh

    Oh and btw, why are you QQing about "threatening others indirectly" when it was you the first one who did it in this thread? Dumb, hypocrite and butthurt hahaha! youre the whole package! b:victory

    I just have one question, out of curiosity. What did vicious do to you to make you that butthurt? I hope it's a great story b:dirty

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