Cash Shop packs

aldonal wrote: »

yes, i did join in 2009, and have been off and on since then. NEVER until now have i seen prices like this. A) im not going to trade a flyer i paid 20 gold for + coins for something someone else may have only paid 50 cents for... thats just ridiculous logic for anyone with a brain. and just because my flyer is an old one, its still upgraded to go as fast as the newer ones, and still they want coins on top of them?! really?! do i have stupid stamped on my forehead? last i checked in the mirror, i didnt

They most likely didn't pay 50 cents and thats a terrible way to value the item out of the packs.

aldonal wrote: »

not when you consider the fact that they could have possibly gotten it in a few tries, when we paid out right for ours. so where they may have only spent anywhere from 50 cents to 5 dollars or more to get them, and we straight out paid 20-30 dollars for ours... now who cant value things properly?!

No... see you're taking best case scenario into account and acting as if that should be the case. If that had the slightest hint of logic and realism to it, scroll of tomes would be worth the same price as tokens.

Which is completely and utterly stupid.


Want a logical price? The newest packs are a 1 in 10,000 chance for a flier. IGNORING how it really works and assuming that you'll literally get a flier every 10k packs (this is unrealistic at the very least for multiple reasons I won't go into), the "fair" price for them would be the equivalent of 5,000 gold.

Your "guaranteed aerogear" will never cost anywhere near that price. Thus, your aerogear which is already over saturated in the market anyways is not going to go for the same price or higher than the pack aerogear. Ever.

As much as I love my max speed versions of several of my older fliers and mounts, I am not gonna delude myself into believing I can sell them for the same price as new stuff. That's just blatantly unreasonable on my end.

You do realize when it comes to these things, getting it within even 100 packs, which would put the price at slightly above most aerogear you can buy directly when including wind widget costs, is considered absurdly lucky, right?

Once again, you're completely ignoring the reality that we have a percent of a percent of a chance to get these things and acting as if everyone selling them gets it on the first pack. Which is such an absurd failure to apply logic that it's pretty astounding.

I have fully maxed versions of old fliers. I KNOW how much I paid for them and my fliers were upgraded before we had permanent price reductions on them. It should be common sense that something with a 1 in 10,000 chance is going to be rarer and more expensive than something you are guaranteed to get. Especially when the guaranteed option has not only been around for FAR longer than the rare one, but also is the type of thing people only need one of and thus will only have its price fall over time as more are introduced.


As I said, by your logic, a level 4 tome should be able to compete with a level 7 tome in price because the former requires a set price in gold and work you have to go through to get the tome pages and fragments, while you can get a scroll of tome on your first pack if you're extremely lucky and nail that 1 in 100,000 chance. If you can see why the example with tomes is absurd, you should be able to recognize that the exact same thing applies to aerogear as well.

aldonal wrote: »

and you do realize that valuing these things as if you had paid for 100 packs is also absurd, right?! ok then...

... Really? Really? And you're completely missing the point of everything I'm explaining to you, eh?


Okay fine, let's use your logic. Go tell anyone on your server that scroll of tomes should be worth only 1mil because people can get them from one pack so they aren't actually valuable or rare at all.

Now go find someone that isn't a complete and total idiot that wholeheartedly agrees with you and thinks you aren't completely stupid for saying that.

Go on, I'll wait.



Oh and by the way, none of the pack fliers are priced at a value that reflects your actual chance of getting one. If they were, we'd be looking at a price of, at the very least, 15,000,000,000. On top of that, even with current gold prices they're normally sold BELOW the price of buying 100 packs... even though it's EXTREMELY unlikely that you'd get one within 100 packs. Honestly, at first I thought you were just a bit unsure about why they are what they are or were misguided on the matter, but you're starting to come off as being more self-entitled about your older fliers even though logic itself is against you. Your insistence on trying to pretend that they're obtained on the first pack every time, as it's the ONLY way you have something even slightly resembling a point, simply further proves this.

I want to give you a proper counter argument, but you're the one making yourself look stupid and hypocritical already for me, so there's no need for me to do anything besides point out that anyone reading this thread can simply look at your prior posts and compare them to your current backpedaling.

Way to be entitled, I suppose.

UnboundFury - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sweetiebot, please give OPKossy 10 points for trying

Aww sorry but you need to have at least 50 posts to be able to award points.

@aldonal

You should play the lottery. By your logic you'll win the grand prize with 2 tickets b:laugh

peckked wrote: »

SweetieBot, I will gladly buy that flyer you're supposedly selling hehehehehehe

Will you?